so you wantthat to be the be all and end all..no talking,,no trying to improve relations.
No look to cooperate on Syria, no chance to solve Ukraine...just more and more da Russian hacked..blah blah.
No chance to triangulate against China...
"Getting along with Russia is a good thing - not a bad thing"
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No look to cooperate on Syria, no chance to solve Ukraine...just more and more da Russian hacked..blah blah.
No chance to triangulate against China...
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And that makes a difference...how again?
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Who said I don't want to improve relations?
We should do it on OUR terms. Not theirs. That's what you're missing - and what you missed w/ Kim.
It's called mature foreign policy. Trump is acting like a naïve child.
So relations are frought because...?
Putin invaded and annexed Crimea?
Putin's FSB attacked us and other western democracies?
Putin bombs Syrian civilians?
So Trump's going to improve relations by...apologizing to Putin?
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And? Your point is what?
Do you think this is the first time Russia or the Soviet Union has tried to interfere in a US election?
Do you think the US has interfered in other countries elections? Are you OK with that?
Of course Russia tried to interfere in our election. Nobody denies they tried to sow discord. What is disputable was that they colluded with the Trump administration AND had any impact on the election.
Like all issues you lefties try to conflate issues. So in you TDS mind, saying that Trump/Russian collusion is a witch hunt means to you that we don't believe Russia tried to meddle. I am sure you will try to play cute.
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Hilarious.
Right up until January 20, 2017, conservative message board posters were complaining that Obama was not standing up to Putin, not being belligerent enough towards him. Some of them even suggested basically going to war over Ukraine.
Hey, Trump boot-lickers, let me know when you stop moving the goal posts and then we can discuss this.
My position is exactly the same before 20 January 2017, as it is today: Russia is an important country, and we should work collaboratively with them were we have mutual interests. We also have the obligation to defend ourselves against efforts to undermine our democratic institutions, against nefarious schemes to undermine our alliances, and to stand up for international law and standards of international conduct.
Hilarious.
Right up until January 20, 2017, conservative message board posters were complaining that Obama was not standing up to Putin, not being belligerent enough towards him. Some of them even suggested basically going to war over Ukraine.
Hey, Trump boot-lickers, let me know when you stop moving the goal posts and then we can discuss this.
My position is exactly the same before 20 January 2017, as it is today: Russia is an important country, and we should work collaboratively with them were we have mutual interests. We also have the obligation to defend ourselves against efforts to undermine our democratic institutions, against nefarious schemes to undermine our alliances, and to stand up for international law and standards of international conduct.
Russia did hack; 12 of them were indicted for doing so last week.
So Trump's going over there to "improve relations" by...what? By not coming back with those indicted Russians?
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That is not an argument and purely conjecture. What you claim is not provable. But, thanks for admitting that Obama had no balls and let McCuntell rule him
the lengths you go to attack Trump is pure TDS.
Russia isn't our "top enemy" that's China..apparently you don't understand detente either.
If you can't improve relations, you at least learn to cooperate where you can ( realpolitik)
and try to deescalate tensions toward mutual coexistance
Why would McConnell refuse to issue a joint statement about Russian hacking? Easy; because he knew it was happening and was benefiting from it.
So McConnell is a traitor just as much as Trump.
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I didn't say Russia was our "top enemy." You read my post wrong.
Sounds like you need to calm down a bit.
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Russia is the one who attacked us, not China.
Your guy is in Helsinki right now playing footsie with the leader of the country who attacked us, attacked our elections, and spread propaganda.
OR you're one of those agents yourself, posing as an American here.
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Generally what a country does after they are attacked by another country.
you need to differentiate between warmongers/ like Graham/McCain/Kristol and Trump who wants to "get along with Russia.
That was a campaign stance as well.
When the US stops trying to overthrow a government in Ukraine, then get back to me about "international law"
Both sides were in flagrant violation of the Budapest Memorandum
McConnell was given the same brief Obama was that showed Russians attacking our election. But McConnell refused to come out and say it. Why? Obviously because he was complicit in it.
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Maybe Thingy won't be happy unless Trump declares war on Russia?
Of course - because the only choices are caving to an adversary in embarrassing & obsequious fashion, or declaring war.
You just lost the debate, btw.
McConnell wouldn't sign on to a joint statement with Obama condemning Russian attacks on our democracy.
Why?
sounds like you should address my points and quit deflecting to minutia..