Federal deficit grows by 32% to $900B

If by "you're all terrible at what you do" means Democrats and Republicans I agree. SNAP spending declined as unemployment dropped from 10% to 3.9% and there were millions more Americans with jobs. But SNAP spending still increased over 300% since 2000.

SNAP spending:

2000: $17 billion
2011: $75 billion
2017: $68 billion

So, in typical Conservative fashion, this shitbag garbage person here shields exculpatory information that completely undermines his case.

While total SNAP spending has increased, individual SNAP benefits have decreased.

Since its high in 2011, the average monthly benefit per recipient has fallen from $133.85 each month to $125.79.
So I want to know why you, personally, hide exculpatory information during a debate. Is it because you think you're entitled to make any shitty, lying argument you want because you know there's no mechanism to hold you accountable? Cause that's what I think of you.
 
Tax cuts are not a payment. The cause of the deficit is spending, not tax cuts. The U.S.government is simply spending too much.

The problem is the Federal Reserve. The government can write as many rubber checks they want and they will be honored by the banks because of the Federal Reserve.

Sooner or later this whole pyramid scheme is going to crash. Sooner or later, people will simply stop accepting U.S. dollars anymore.

It's already starting to happen. People are starting to look for other things to use as a store of wealth or even money (other national currencies, silver, platinum, real estate, gold, Bitcoin, etc.). The only thing keeping it from collapsing now is the Race to the Bottom caused by so many other nations printing money as fast or faster than the United States is. The world has never been here before.

cawacky? is this you?

You still don't fool me:-)
 
Before the Russia Tax Cut, the deficit was 32% lower than it is now.

After the Russia Tax Cut, the deficit is 32% bigger than it was before.

Here's Kansas, showing that the repeal of Tax Cuts (SB 30) shows the budget going from deficits to surplus! But according to you, it's spending that causes deficits, even though right here is the Kansas state budget showing that it's the tax cuts that caused the deficits:

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Can't argue math.

They are uneducated........they don't know any math.
 
What does the federal reserve have to do with the deficits and debts your tax cuts caused? Nothing. You're trying to scapegoat the Fed for the fact that your shitty economic and fiscal policies never deliver on any of the promises made of them.

Because it's cawacko.....

He's not slick.
 
Conservatives are intellectual lightweights, and they know it. So rather than have a debate, they stoop to these kinds of posts just so they can be heard.

Conservatives have an entitlement complex that is completely unearned because they operate exclusively in bad faith.

All of them.

There are no exceptions.

You're preaching to the choir boo.....Standing Ovation.
 
No, there were actual cuts to SNAP benefits as recently as this year that has nothing to do with enrollment or unemployment.

So what happened between 2000 and 2011 that caused SNAP spending to grow so much? Oh right, the gigantic fucking recession your shitty Conservative policies caused.

Very good--the recession. So "cutting SNAP" is not hurting poor people but the result of millions of new jobs making people less dependent or not eligible for SNAP.

It was not my conservative policies--I thought Bush increased spending too much. Bush's policies had much less to do with the recession than housing policies. Strange you cited Bush taking credit for the housing boom since you would not believe anything else he said. We both know it was the policies encouraging lenders to lend to anybody that caused the housing crisis.
 
Very good--the recession. So "cutting SNAP" is not hurting poor people but the result of millions of new jobs making people less dependent or not eligible for SNAP.

It was not my conservative policies--I thought Bush increased spending too much. Bush's policies had much less to do with the recession than housing policies. Strange you cited Bush taking credit for the housing boom since you would not believe anything else he said. We both know it was the policies encouraging lenders to lend to anybody that caused the housing crisis.

Lending to Blacks that couldn't afford housing............yawn........you people need to stop with this lie.
 
So, in typical Conservative fashion, this shitbag garbage person here shields exculpatory information that completely undermines his case.

While total SNAP spending has increased, individual SNAP benefits have decreased.


So I want to know why you, personally, hide exculpatory information during a debate. Is it because you think you're entitled to make any shitty, lying argument you want because you know there's no mechanism to hold you accountable? Cause that's what I think of you.

I didn't hide anything. You claimed SNAP had been cut--why didn't you point out that total spending had increased and that lower unemployment was the cause of the decline? You hid some exculpatory information as well. But, we can't include everything.

What benefit cuts are you talking about? The one in this year's farm bill that has not yet passed?
 
Very good--the recession. So "cutting SNAP" is not hurting poor people but the result of millions of new jobs making people less dependent or not eligible for SNAP.

It was not my conservative policies--I thought Bush increased spending too much. Bush's policies had much less to do with the recession than housing policies. Strange you cited Bush taking credit for the housing boom since you would not believe anything else he said. We both know it was the policies encouraging lenders to lend to anybody that caused the housing crisis.

He's Exhibit A of a partisan trying to create an economic narrative around the facts. (People on the right do this as well so he's not alone). But everyone one of his stories is Republican = bad, Democrats = good. All credit to one, all blame to the other. The real world doesn't work so easily but on a message board...
 
Lending to Blacks that couldn't afford housing............yawn........you people need to stop with this lie.

You brought up race (as usual). It was for lower income who would not otherwise qualify. If you think this is a lie you missed a lot of history about the recession.

"The Big Short" might help if you don't want to actually read.
 
He's Exhibit A of a partisan trying to create an economic narrative around the facts. (People on the right do this as well so he's not alone). But everyone one of his stories is Republican = bad, Democrats = good. All credit to one, all blame to the other. The real world doesn't work so easily but on a message board...

Many people, especially those with a lot of anger and hatred, need to find others to blame for the world's problems. Today's partisanship is caused by intense group loyalty and the need to win at all costs. If they lose, they need to denigrate and insult those they blame for their loss.

It is like a controversial call at sporting event. Everyone on one side thinks the play went in their favor and the other side thinks it went in their favor. They yell and boo the bad call and think the ref is cheating for the other side. They might even have words or fight with those on the other side. And they truly believe their side is right, more intelligent, more informed, more moral than the other which they call scum. Many are reasonably intelligent people but they cannot see how their partisanship is corrupting their reality.
 
You brought up race (as usual). It was for lower income who would not otherwise qualify. If you think this is a lie you missed a lot of history about the recession.

"The Big Short" might help if you don't want to actually read.


It's why the lie was started Rich wealthy racist white men came blame everything on Blacks and you suck it up.

YOU need the history lesson...... you sound like cawacky too.
 
Many people, especially those with a lot of anger and hatred, need to find others to blame for the world's problems. Today's partisanship is caused by intense group loyalty and the need to win at all costs. If they lose, they need to denigrate and insult those they blame for their loss.

It is like a controversial call at sporting event. Everyone on one side thinks the play went in their favor and the other side thinks it went in their favor. They yell and boo the bad call and think the ref is cheating for the other side. They might even have words or fight with those on the other side. And they truly believe their side is right, more intelligent, more informed, more moral than the other which they call scum. Many are reasonably intelligent people but they cannot see how their partisanship is corrupting their reality.

This is outstanding!
 
Many people, especially those with a lot of anger and hatred, need to find others to blame for the world's problems. Today's partisanship is caused by intense group loyalty and the need to win at all costs. If they lose, they need to denigrate and insult those they blame for their loss.

It is like a controversial call at sporting event. Everyone on one side thinks the play went in their favor and the other side thinks it went in their favor. They yell and boo the bad call and think the ref is cheating for the other side. They might even have words or fight with those on the other side. And they truly believe their side is right, more intelligent, more informed, more moral than the other which they call scum. Many are reasonably intelligent people but they cannot see how their partisanship is corrupting their reality.

This is extremely well said. We are no longer individuals but members of a team who have been instructed to ride or die with regardless of what they do.
 
You're like ten years behind the fucking curve, douchebag.
Not really. A lot of bubble economy exists in the real estate loans just like last time. Another biggie that people don't seem to think about much is the student loan industry. These loans can't be discharged in a bankruptcy. Something's going to have to give. It won't be pretty.
The recession is going to be caused not by the equities and housing markets, but by the drop in orders to produce inventory for Q3 and Q4.
You are looking at the symptom, not the cause.
Your stupid, ham-fisted, brain-dead, moronic trade policies will result in higher consumer prices,
No, printing money results in higher consumer prices. The Federal Reserve results in high consumer prices.
and a drop in manufacturing and inventory output.
Inventories don't 'output'. Variations of supply and demand is a normal part of any economy.
That's 100% because of your shitty tariffs and trade policy.
Nope. Our tariffs are in large part retaliatory of existing tariffs and subsidized products from other nations.
Your Russia Tax Cut exploded the deficit up to $900B, a level it hasn't been in 5 years, and that will hamstring government's efforts to curtail the impact from that recession caused by your shitty tariffs and shitty trade policies.
Have you forgotten the amount that Obama printed (practically overnight) to prevent banks 'too big to fail' from collapsing?
What spending do you want to cut?

This is actually an excellent question. It's also the kind of question that if you ask twenty people what should be cut, you'll get twenty different answers.

In my opinion, the federal government should return to its constitutional limits. That is to say, the elimination of the EPA, the NEA, the Dept of Agriculture, the Social Security Administration, most of the FCC, most of the FAA, a good chunk of the NHA, the FHA, a fair chunk of the VA, the CPA, etc. That's just a start. As far as I'm concerned, it's not about the usefulness of any of these programs. It's about what is authorized by the Constitution of the United States.

Individual States can implement some or all of these programs themselves according to the authority granted in THEIR constitutions.

Local control is better.
 
Not really. A lot of bubble economy exists in the real estate loans just like last time. Another biggie that people don't seem to think about much is the student loan industry. These loans can't be discharged in a bankruptcy. Something's going to have to give. It won't be pretty.

You are looking at the symptom, not the cause.

No, printing money results in higher consumer prices. The Federal Reserve results in high consumer prices.

Inventories don't 'output'. Variations of supply and demand is a normal part of any economy.

Nope. Our tariffs are in large part retaliatory of existing tariffs and subsidized products from other nations.

Have you forgotten the amount that Obama printed (practically overnight) to prevent banks 'too big to fail' from collapsing?


This is actually an excellent question. It's also the kind of question that if you ask twenty people what should be cut, you'll get twenty different answers.

In my opinion, the federal government should return to its constitutional limits. That is to say, the elimination of the EPA, the NEA, the Dept of Agriculture, the Social Security Administration, most of the FCC, most of the FAA, a good chunk of the NHA, the FHA, a fair chunk of the VA, the CPA, etc. That's just a start. As far as I'm concerned, it's not about the usefulness of any of these programs. It's about what is authorized by the Constitution of the United States.

Individual States can implement some or all of these programs themselves according to the authority granted in THEIR constitutions.

Local control is better.


you are a troll
 
"Smaller government" is one of those ambiguous, vague phrases designed to allow maximum wiggle room within the parameters later.

How has "big government" victimized you in any way whatsoever through taxation?

By passing oppressive laws. By attempting to implement price controls. By direct taxes to pay for it all (in addition to the tax and waste caused by these laws).

The federal government is currently trying to tell me what toilet I can have, what light bulb I can have, what kind of engine my car can have, how often I have to replace perfectly good working parts on my airplane (one just came due), by using taxation to 'guide society', but the taxes I pay in products such as gasoline, which is taxed when you drill for the oil, taxed when you sell that oil to a refinery, taxed to refine it, taxed to store the finished product, taxed to transport that product to distribution centers, taxed to add the moderators and other chemistry, taxed to store it at the distribution centers, taxed to pump it into the ground at the gas stations, and taxed when you pump it out of the ground at the gas station, then the general taxes just for owning a car.

Don't even get me started about tires.

Oh...and don't forget the casinos. You are taxed on a big win, but you don't get to write off any losses you sustained to get that big win. They take HALF the money you won in some cases!
 
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