Breaking: An American killed a man in my county!

cawacko said:
If this issue is so important to you Jarod you should let us know the number of murders committed by those here illegally and how many of them make national news. Then you compare the number of murders in America and how many make national news.

I'm aware of two killings by illegals that made national news. Kate Steinly and the Iowa girl. I'd be happy to bet you any amount of money those weren't the only killings done by those here illegally in the last couple of years. So therefore your whole attempted premise is a false one.
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The death of Kate Steinly was always an iffy case and it weirded me out that it became the rights cause celebre. I was like, you really can't do better than that? Honestly had a backfire effect for me, I would've thought a more clear cut or gruesome murder would have occurred.

The killing of the girl in Iowa was a much more clear cut case, but that was of course ruined by the right deciding to shit all over the girl and her family because they were left wing.
 
Watermark said:
The death of Kate Steinly was always an iffy case and it weirded me out that it became the rights cause celebre. I was like, you really can't do better than that? Honestly had a backfire effect for me, I would've thought a more clear cut or gruesome murder would have occurred.

The killing of the girl in Iowa was a much more clear cut case, but that was of course ruined by the right deciding to shit all over the girl and her family because they were left wing.
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The Kate Steinly drew/deserved attention because it was such a failure of government groups to communicate. The guy was a multiple time felon who had been kicked out of the country before. You have to be pretty hard core to be happy he was roaming the streets.
 
cawacko said:
I guess you can attack others and call them racist but are immune from anything in return? I mean, who wouldn't like that situation. Having a free pass would be pretty cool.
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Apparently personal attacks are your way of deflecting attention away from the fact that your Reichwingers turned the tragic murder of a young woman into a histrionic hullabaloo about illegals. All the while you ignore the hundreds of non-white young women who are murdered each year. Guess if you can't use them for political points, they don't matter.

So, want to discuss how your side viciously attacked Mollie's father?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Apparently personal attacks are your way of deflecting attention away from the fact that your Reichwingers turned the tragic murder of a young woman into a histrionic hullabaloo about illegals. All the while you ignore the hundreds of non-white young women who are murdered each year. Guess if you can't use them for political points, they don't matter.

So, want to discuss how your side viciously attacked Mollie's father?
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"My side". So we're no longer individuals now? That's why you just call people racist who you have different political beliefs than? But you're not racist right? You don't do anything racist? You have no biases? We can all aspire to be you Owl.

Mollies dad has nothing to do with the topic. Jarod's belief is basically all killings done by illegals make national headlines. If you agree with him show us the numbers to back that up.
 
cawacko said:
"My side". So we're no longer individuals now? That's why you just call people racist who you have different political beliefs than? But you're not racist right? You don't do anything racist? You have no biases? We can all aspire to be you Owl.

Mollies dad has nothing to do with the topic. Jarod's belief is basically all killings done by illegals make national headlines. If you agree with him show us the numbers to back that up.
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It's difficult to have a rational discussion with irrational people like yourself. Again, you are more interested in personal attacks and deflection. If you don't want to be seen on the side of racists, then stop defending them by your silence. Acknowledge that your side has shamelessly capitalized on Mollie's death and attacked her father. Admit that the deaths of beautiful young women of color get far less attention than this beautiful young lady's.
 
cawacko said:
"My side". So we're no longer individuals now? That's why you just call people racist who you have different political beliefs than? But you're not racist right? You don't do anything racist? You have no biases? We can all aspire to be you Owl.

Mollies dad has nothing to do with the topic. Jarod's belief is basically all killings done by illegals make national headlines. If you agree with him show us the numbers to back that up.
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No one aspires to be someone who sees wrong in the coverage of Mollie's disappearance and murder...'particularly someone who keeps insisting that the coverage was only because of her race....
Some here are simply incapable of thoughtful exchange..ever...
 
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It is not a big national story. in 2012 8,85 gun homicides 2015 13,286. I is not a big story in America, Not hard to get shot in America.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It's difficult to have a rational discussion with irrational people like yourself. Again, you are more interested in personal attacks and deflection. If you don't want to be seen on the side of racists, then stop defending them by your silence. Acknowledge that your side has shamelessly capitalized on Mollie's death and attacked her father. Admit that the deaths of beautiful young women of color get far less attention than this beautiful young lady's.
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So you called me a racist before Mollies death because you knew Mollie was going to die? So you can see the future now? You have amazing gifts. And yeah I'm irrational because you love calling people racists. Funny how you like to tell the whole board you put people on ignore but you expect me to respond to people I have on ignore? Must be nice.
 
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ThatOwlWoman said:
It's difficult to have a rational discussion with irrational people like yourself. Again, you are more interested in personal attacks and deflection. If you don't want to be seen on the side of racists, then stop defending them by your silence. Acknowledge that your side has shamelessly capitalized on Mollie's death and attacked her father. Admit that the deaths of beautiful young women of color get far less attention than this beautiful young lady's.
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Because "your side" doesn't shamelessly capitalize on gun deaths. Find a thread where I said anything about mollies family. Find one.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Apparently personal attacks are your way of deflecting attention away from the fact that your Reichwingers turned the tragic murder of a young woman into a histrionic hullabaloo about illegals. All the while you ignore the hundreds of non-white young women who are murdered each year. Guess if you can't use them for political points, they don't matter.

So, want to discuss how your side viciously attacked Mollie's father?
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the fact she was murdered by an illegal IS a political calculus to the discussion. why pretend it's not?
Her father doesn't get to dictate the national discussion either, as much sympathy as we all have for the family
 
cawacko said:
The Kate Steinly drew/deserved attention because it was such a failure of government groups to communicate. The guy was a multiple time felon who had been kicked out of the country before. You have to be pretty hard core to be happy he was roaming the streets.
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Surely you could have pointed out a more serious and certain crime though
 
anatta said:
the fact she was murdered by an illegal IS a political calculus to the discussion. why pretend it's not?
Her father doesn't get to dictate the national discussion either, as much sympathy as we all have for the family
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Like you don't have any sympathy for the family. You guys are wishing death on them because you won't let them use their daughter to wage a campaign of ethnic hatred.
 
cawacko said:
So you called me a racist before Mollies death because you knew Mollie was going to die? So you can see the future now? You have amazing gifts. And yeah I'm irrational because you love calling people racists. Funny how you like to tell the whole board you put people on ignore but you expect me to respond to people I have on ignore? Must be nice.
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You will be happy to show the post where I called you a racist, right? Never mind. A few weeks ago you insisted that I told you to leave the country because we don't agree on politics. Despite being repeatedly asked to show prove this lie, you waffled and dodged. Then you finally admitted that someone else said that, and I put a "like" on their post so that means it's exactly the same as me telling you to leave the country.

My work is done here. No point in even trying to discuss anything with snowflake morons. Have a nice life.
 
anatta said:
the fact she was murdered by an illegal IS a political calculus to the discussion. why pretend it's not?
Her father doesn't get to dictate the national discussion either, as much sympathy as we all have for the family
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At the same time Mollie's remains were found, so were the remains of an equally lovely and pregnant young white woman, and her beautiful little girls. They were murdered by their husband/father. This heinous crime made headlines for a few days but was quickly overshadowed by the screeching about Mollie's murderer, and then the attacks by the Right on her father.

As I recall the discussion here is how the murder of a young white woman makes the national news, yet the murders of the young Hispanic people in the OP is just a blip on the local stage. I'm pointing out in this post that the murders of the Watts' family didn't inspire the outrage against the alleged murderer that the right poured on Mr. Tibbetts or Mollie's killer, nor is anyone much interested in the murders in FL in the OP.

Why is that?
 
Watermark said:
Like you don't have any sympathy for the family. You guys are wishing death on them because you won't let them use their daughter to wage a campaign of ethnic hatred.
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Exactly. Even the Reichsfuehrer bleated about Mollie, while completely ignoring the heinous Colorado murders of the Watts family.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You will be happy to show the post where I called you a racist, right? Never mind. A few weeks ago you insisted that I told you to leave the country because we don't agree on politics. Despite being repeatedly asked to show prove this lie, you waffled and dodged. Then you finally admitted that someone else said that, and I put a "like" on their post so that means it's exactly the same as me telling you to leave the country.

My work is done here. No point in even trying to discuss anything with snowflake morons. Have a nice life.
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TTQ64 wrote a one sentence thread. It said you are a racist. And you thanked it.

It would be the equivalent of someone writing "Owl is a (fill in the blank)", me thanking the post then me claiming because I didn't actually write the post I didn't say it.

So yeah, you call people racist just because and then try and deny it? Why bother?

Edit: And even if we disagreed prior I had never said anything disrespectful to you. It was never personal. Clearly for you it is.
 
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