Trump denies 3,000 died in Puerto Rico

Ryan and Scott did not dispute these numbers,TD

I could care less; I asked you the question, not Scott or Ryan. Where do these figures come from and who has verified them. Why is the premise of this thread a lie? How many were a direct result of the hurricanes and how many were incidental long after the hurricanes subsided?
 
I am trying to help the entire nation by pointing out that our president is a lying insane maniac.

You're doing nothing of the sort. Your merely illustrating your lunacy and moronic assumptions based on lies. I am amused when un-elected dumbfucks divine themselves as the saviors of the man the people elected. STFU, seriously.
 
L M A O So it was nothing more than some mathematical assumptions based on data and not actual death records and real reports. No shocker here.

We have both the Republican candidate for Senate from Florida, and the Speaker of the House who are both in agreement that 3000 may just be the number of dead in PR, and possibly more. Are they liars?
 
I thought I was inured to Trump's constant lying and grotesque distortions, but this is something else. Even senior Republicans are backing away from him.

The idea that anyone could actually side with Trump on this is beyond my comprehension, yet that's what certain posters here are doing. WTH is wrong with these people?

Trump knows no bottom.

:lolup:Priceless.

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Hurricane Maria resulted in 1139 excess deaths in Puerto Rico between September and December 2017, when death counts returned to average, according to a new analysis of death records.

The storm was called “the biggest catastrophe in modern history” by Puerto Rico’s mayor, and the aftermath was devastating: extreme flooding, power outages for months, contaminated drinking water and food shortages.

Yet the US government says there were just 64 deaths between 20 September 2017 – when the hurricane made landfall in Puerto Rico – and the end of December 2017. That’s because they only counted people whose death certificate listed the hurricane as their cause of death.

New estimate

Now, Alexis Santos-Lozada at Pennsylvania State University and Jeffrey Howard at the University of Texas at San Antonio have a new estimate based on death records compiled by the government of Puerto Rico for each month of 2017.

They calculated the mean monthly deaths between 2010 and 2016 to establish a historical baseline, and then compared the 2017 statistics to see how many excess deaths were recorded. Based on the uncertainty of the statistics, they created a range of numbers of deaths for each month. Any death counts higher than the top of the range were considered excess deaths.

The researchers found that there were 459 excess deaths in September, 564 in October, and 116 in November. By December 2017, the death count in Puerto Rico had returned to a level that was at the high end of historical averages, but no longer significantly higher than normal.
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Another study from July put the post-Maria death count at 4645. In that case, researchers surveyed more than 3000 randomly chosen households in Puerto Rico to gather information on deaths that may have happened outside of hospitals and were therefore potentially overlooked. They reported 56 deaths, 18 before the hurricane and 38 after, and then extrapolated to the whole population.

“Because these are relatively small numbers this resulted in a large amount of uncertainty,” says Howard. Based on their work, the death toll could have been anywhere from 793 to 8498 – the final number they reported is the mean of that range.

Howard and Santos-Lozada say their estimate is conservative and has less uncertainty, though it doesn’t include the cause of the deaths. “However, the individual death record data with causes of death has been released by the Puerto Rican government, and could be the subject of further studies. I hope that it is,” Howard says.

Journal reference: JAMA, DOI: 10.1001/jama.2018.10929
 
We have both the Republican candidate for Senate from Florida, and the Speaker of the House who are both in agreement that 3000 may just be the number of dead in PR, and possibly more. Are they liars?

They can be on agreement all they want and it doesn't make the information factual nor does it make this thread premise less of a lie snowflake. STFU, seriously.
 
His tweets are absolutely disgusting.

Conservatives, Republicans, "Libertarians", and Trump voters own this. All of them.

No lifeboats for them now.

Drumpf falsely claims nearly 3,000 Americans in Puerto Rico 'did not die'
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/trump-puerto-rico-death-toll/index.html

whatever category you are happy to put me into, I don't think his comments are a problem at all. Doesn't affect me the slightest, doesn't outrage me, doesn't make me mad, I don't care. not one iota. the death toll was likely fake news anyway, and PR is now known to have withheld supplies from the population for political purposes.

Keep being salty.
 
On 9-11, most did not die from the airplane crashing into the towers, it was later when the Towers fell, so according to your way of thinking the death toll from the terror attacks themselves is much lower, you can’t prove the rest were caused by the attacks themselves.
 
I would think that they know a whole lot more about the subject than a low life asshole like you. Agreed?

I would think they do not. Why do you think that? Because you're a nonthinking retard who can only parrot the talking points you are fed like a dumbfuck?
 
On 9-11, most did not die from the airplane crashing into the towers, it was later when the Towers fell, so according to your way of thinking the death toll from the terror attacks themselves is much lower, you can’t prove the rest were caused by the attacks themselves.

Good God; this is the mother of all illogical moronic arguments, you clueless and classless dunce. Seriously; you have to be retarded to even make such a claim.

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I would think that they know a whole lot more about the subject than a low life asshole like you. Agreed?

It's quite obvious you consider them reliable because they said what you wanted to hear. Agreed?

Have you seen the 3000 bodies?

Stop assuming unless you have unless you're admitting to being a fuck up.

 
Hurricane Maria resulted in 1139 excess deaths in Puerto Rico between September and December 2017 ... according to a new analysis of death records.

No no, Stretch, President Trump refuted that! He tweeted: "When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much."

Why are you propagating fake news?
 
No no, Stretch, President Trump refuted that! He tweeted: "When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much."

Why are you propagating fake news?

No...not doing that. ;) Just posted the recorded "cause of death" notices shown at the time were probably only 64. No doubt it went up. Not really taking a side here. The article shows what it shows as to how the figures have come about.
 
It's quite obvious you consider them reliable because they said what you wanted to hear. Agreed?

Have you seen the 3000 bodies?

Stop assuming unless you have unless you're admitting to being a fuck up.




I would find anyone more credible than low life like you
 
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