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And can we talk at all about your selective double-standard when it comes to the truth?
A point about Elizabeth Warren's Native American Ancestry
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And can we talk at all about your selective double-standard when it comes to the truth?
wealthy entitled white women do not cook meals--especially mine. I don't know whether she is any of those other things---you must know her better than I do.
Such as?
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Oh, I dunno - such as you having no issue w/ literally thousands of lies Trump has told, and making a huge deal about this issue - where Warren actually told the truth.
Maybe that.
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Who cares?
I mean, who would make a big deal about her heritage? Who would bring it up dozens if not hundreds of times?
Who? Who would care?
I mean, who would make a big deal about her heritage? Who would bring it up dozens if not hundreds of times?
Who? Who would care?
umm which “literally thousands of lies” would those be? How about we start with your proving your accusation. I’ve already posted on Liz Warrens claim to show her lie.
Who would do that?
The first thread here was started by a liberal. The Boston Globe ran with the story. Why, because Liz Warren made the claim.
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Don requires support on his bet reneging doesn't he now.
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The same folks who insist upon resurrecting Hillary.
Kim Tallbear, a University of Alberta professor and author of Native American DNA: Tribal Belonging and the False Promise of Genetic Science told The Atlantic. (Tallbear is a member of the Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate tribe and has written extensively on this topic.)
Additionally, having some Native American ancestry “proven” from a DNA test does not automatically mean that someone is or should be, say, a member of the Cherokee tribe. “People think that there’s a DNA test that can prove if somebody is Native American or not. There isn’t,” Tallbear told New Scientist. Tribal affiliation is about more than genetics. It is also about history, culture, and political identity. The same is true of every culture, but these issues are especially sensitive given the history of the Native Americans in the US.
Tallbear noted that it’s popular for white people to claim Native American ancestry, but “tribe” is a federally recognized status, and being Cherokee is about more than DNA analysis. And as DNA tests have become more and more widespread, people are showing up at tribal-enrollment offices with their results. “That worries us in a land where we already feel there’s very little understanding about the history of our tribes, our relationships with colonial powers, and the conditions of our lives now,” she said.
In a statement provided today, Tallbear pointed out that Warren shouldn’t continue to defend her ancestry claims despite refusing to meet with Cherokee Nation members that challenge her. “This shows that she focuses on and actually privileges DNA company definitions in this debate, which are ultimately settler-colonial definitions of who is indigenous,” Tallbear writes. “She and much of the US American public privilege the voices of (mostly white) genome scientists and implicitly cede to them the power to define indigenous identity.” Similarly, the Cherokee Nation said in a statement that “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
Additionally, having some Native American ancestry “proven” from a DNA test does not automatically mean that someone is or should be, say, a member of the Cherokee tribe. “People think that there’s a DNA test that can prove if somebody is Native American or not. There isn’t,” Tallbear told New Scientist. Tribal affiliation is about more than genetics. It is also about history, culture, and political identity. The same is true of every culture, but these issues are especially sensitive given the history of the Native Americans in the US.
Tallbear noted that it’s popular for white people to claim Native American ancestry, but “tribe” is a federally recognized status, and being Cherokee is about more than DNA analysis. And as DNA tests have become more and more widespread, people are showing up at tribal-enrollment offices with their results. “That worries us in a land where we already feel there’s very little understanding about the history of our tribes, our relationships with colonial powers, and the conditions of our lives now,” she said.
In a statement provided today, Tallbear pointed out that Warren shouldn’t continue to defend her ancestry claims despite refusing to meet with Cherokee Nation members that challenge her. “This shows that she focuses on and actually privileges DNA company definitions in this debate, which are ultimately settler-colonial definitions of who is indigenous,” Tallbear writes. “She and much of the US American public privilege the voices of (mostly white) genome scientists and implicitly cede to them the power to define indigenous identity.” Similarly, the Cherokee Nation said in a statement that “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
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Oh, is that undesirable now? Yesterday they were the only people who mattered, these wealthy entitled whites.
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The indigenous peoples of the North American continent lost their heritage, land and culture to american exceptionalism. And they are still in the same shape they were always in. By continued design, they're being excluded from voting. Guess by whom, by design and effort. Warren is no threat to them, america is.
Fuck your stupidity and intellectual dishonesty.
And many posters let us know we weren't supposed to like those people. I assumed such undesirable traits applied to both male or female and Democrat or Republican.
Was I wrong? Are wealthy entitled white people only undesirable if male conservatives?
I bet you ignore it when people claim they're German, Irish, Italian, Japanese etc., because they're not ELIZABETH WARREN.
^The irony is so fucking thick here, I really did chuckle out loud.
What a clueless fucking moron.
Looks like she earned that status on her own, doesn't it? I'm sure you have eclipsed her wealth and entitlements, haven'y you?
"Warren lived in Norman until she was 11 years old, when the family moved to Oklahoma City. When she was 12, her father, a salesman at Montgomery Ward, had a heart attack, which led to many medical bills as well as a pay cut because he could not do his previous work. Eventually, their car was repossessed because they failed to make loan payments. To help the family finances, her mother found work in the catalog order department at Sears. When she was 13, Warren started waiting tables at her aunt's restaurant.
Warren became a star member of the debate team at Northwest Classen High School and won the state high school debating championship. She also won a debate scholarship to George Washington University at the age of 16. She initially aspired to be a teacher, but left GWU after two years to marry Jim Warren, whom she met in high school.
Warren and her husband moved to Houston, where he was employed by IBM, which was a subcontractor to NASA. She enrolled in the University of Houston and graduated in 1970 with a Bachelor of Science degree in speech pathology and audiology. For a year, she taught children with disabilities who were enrolled in a public school. Her qualifications were based on an "emergency certificate", because she had not taken the education courses that were required for a regular teaching certificate.
The Warrens moved to New Jersey when Jim received a job transfer. She soon became pregnant and decided to remain at home to care for their child. After their daughter turned two, Warren enrolled at the Rutgers Law School in Newark. She worked as a summer associate at Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft. Shortly before graduating in 1976, Warren became pregnant with their second child. After she received her J.D. and passed the bar examination, she decided to perform legal services from home; she wrote wills and did real estate closings."
Meh. bush and trump proudly proclaimed they had the brains to get into Ivy League universities and you never called them liars.
I'm still waiting for you RW "perk" advocates to identify those. So far, nothing but crickets.
Most pioneering families in the West claim 'Indian blood'. They may or may not REALLY believe it, but it is a bonding factor for those in the West that have kin that took the Oregon Trail by Wagon Train, travelled to the Gold Fields in California, or just were part of settling the West.
I don't know Elizabeth Warrens family history, if it has 'pioneer family' in it, then she has a valid claim (whether true or not).
I don't know what context she used it in, but she came back with some kind of 'hit', so that must mean something?
I don't know Elizabeth Warrens family history, if it has 'pioneer family' in it, then she has a valid claim (whether true or not).
I don't know what context she used it in, but she came back with some kind of 'hit', so that must mean something?