A point about Elizabeth Warren's Native American Ancestry

Oneuli said:
First, can we all just take a step back and have a good laugh at how absurdly horrible right-wingers are with basic elementary-school-level math? The actual expert claim was that she had a Native American ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago. Obviously, that's between about 1.53% and 0.10%. 1/1000% would be 0.001%. You're off by two orders of magnitude from the low-end estimate and by three orders of magnitude from the high end. A two-orders-of-magnitude error would be akin to me estimating that Donald Trump weighs 12 tons. It takes a special kind of poor education to screw up that big.

Anyway, setting aside your severe difficulties with mathematics, her claim was about ancestry. She said that her family history spoke of distant Native American ancestors. We've long known she was telling the truth when she recounting hearing those stories, since even right-wing members of her family have confirmed that oral history. Now we also know that those stories, themselves, were truthful, since she does, in fact, have distant Native American ancestors. This has triggered an epic meltdown among the right-wing snowflakes, since they hate the idea that Trump led them into such an embarrassing situation. So now they're trying to pivot to vague attacks about how it's wrong to claim a heritage (whatever that means) without some specified DNA component.



You know perfectly well she did nothing of the sort. Even if, in some metaphysical sense, she made a claim to that heritage, based on distant ancestry, that doesn't steal anything. That heritage is still there for anyone who had it before.
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Must be a slow day for news. No Stormy Daniels defamation of character lawsuits, no Mueller indictments, no terrorists attacks, no hurricanes.
 
Evmetro said:
It looks like that stuff you posted has already been filtered and edited for lefties. You didn't post links like I did, so I am not sure what lefty source you used. No big deal though, since you are fighting for the left. Evince probably won't request a source link from you.

Yep, she hijacked Indian Heritage for personal gain. She is America's whitest racist for doing this.
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Still waiting for you to prove her personal gain. I posted her history. Refute it.

Keep drooling, loser.
 
Darth Omar said:
No, but it’s been fun nonetheless lol.
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That is what this posting stuff is all about, Darth.

Fun.

Enjoying the challenge.

It's like golf...only no outdoors, no course, no balls, no clubs, no bag, no swings...

...uhhh, well maybe it is not like golf.
 
Oneuli said:
According to what? Let's say, for example, that among the passengers of the Mayflower were four of my own ancestors. Would I be entitled to claim that Pilgrim heritage? Well, based on an average generation length of 30 years, that was about 13 generations ago. So, I'd have about 8,192 grandparents at that point. Four out of 8,192 would be about 0.05%. Far less of my DNA would consist of that of Mayflower passengers than Warren's does of Native Americans. Yet, should that mean I have no right to claim Pilgrim heritage? If so, then I suppose just about nobody could claim heritage based on pretty much anything from before a couple centuries ago, since those contributions from our ancestors would be incredibly diluted by now.

I don't recognize an arbitrary DNA percentage cut-off for when someone can claim heritage. Tribal affiliation is another matter. That's a political thing, determined by those who control those political units. In the same way that a nation can deny someone citizenship even if she can prove she's 100% descended from people of that nation, a Native American tribe can deny membership to whoever their own internal rules determine. But Warren isn't trying to claim tribal membership. She's just pointing out, correctly, that she has some Native American ancestors. For some reason, this has reduced right wingers into blubbering messes.
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If you support the super white racist who is claiming Indian Heritage with 1/1000% Indian DNA, you are a racist. Native Americans are pretty pissed at her for hijacking heritage that is not hers, and you should be too. Shame on you for supporting the super white racist.
 
btw, idiot Trump and his droolers got bitchslapped once again on this....too funny!


Just about everything you’ve read on the Warren DNA test is wrong

As one might expect, the vast majority of Warren’s DNA indicated European ancestors. But five genetic segments were identified, with 99 percent confidence, as being associated with Native American ancestry. The largest segment identified was on Chromosome 10.

“While the vast majority of the individual’s ancestry is European, the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago,” the report said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...?utm_term=.c82cfa628759&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


HAHAHAHAAAA!!!
 
Superfreak said:
Try reading the actual DATA you moron.
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Cliff notes version. Link is below.
Analysis: Just about everything you’ve read on the Warren DNA test is wrong

...The most important point is this: The results in Warren’s DNA test are static. The percentage of Native American DNA in her genome does not shrink as you go back generations. There could be one individual in the sixth generation — around the mid-1800s, which is similar to Warren family lore — or possibly a dozen or more ancestors back to the 10th generation, which would be about 250 years ago.

...We are not trying to defend Warren’s decision to release the test, just to set the record straight about what the test shows. The media bungled the interpretation of the results — and then Warren’s opponents used the uninformed reporting to undermine the test results even further. We fell into this trap as well, and were too quick to send out a tweet (now deleted) that made an inaccurate comparison.

We should have not relied on media reporting before tweeting.

Warren’s Native American DNA, as identified in the test, may not be large, but it’s wrong to say it’s as little as 1/1024th or that it’s less than the average European American. Three Pinocchios all around — including to our tweet."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/fact...arren-dna-test-is-wrong/ar-BBOxm95?li=BBnb7Kz
 
Oneuli said:
There are different reasons each did. With Warren, she was already a tenured professor, so it wasn't about career advancement or job security. It was likely about a desire to connect with that part of her ancestry. As for why Harvard did it, it was probably to head off criticism about having too little diversity among faculty.
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All of her records are on this site. https://tinyurl.com/ybxajko7

She didn't change ethnicity until three years after being offered tenure. These people will do and say anything to put her down.
 
Evmetro said:
Pocahontas is the absolutely perfect word to use to mock a white chick who attempts to hijack rightful claims to Native American Indian Heritage. She had absolutely NO right to make ANY claim to it, but she hijacked it to use as leverage for her personal gain. Shame on her. I can't believe the left is defending such whiteness, and I can't believe they are not calling it out how racist she is for hijacking Indian Heritage that she is not entitled to.
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:lies: There was no personal gain. Stop lying.
 
Evmetro said:
Harvard Law School in the 1990s touted Warren, then a professor in Cambridge, as being "Native American." They singled her out, Warren later acknowledged, because she had listed herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory. Critics note that she had not done that in her student applications and during her time as a teacher at the University of Texas.

"the real offense is that (Warren) said she was white and then checked the box saying she is Native American, and then she changed her profile in the law directory once she made her tenure."

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html

Domer, the biggest problem now, is that she and the left continue to claim that she is somehow entitled to claim some American Indian Heritage, in spite of a dna test that shows she is as white as white can be. 1/1000% of any race is not enough to make ANY claim to having that heritage.
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Here are her records from Harvard. Please let us know where, in any of them, does Harvard state they singled her out for being a Native American.

Harvard

 
christiefan915 said:
Here are her records from Harvard. Please let us know where, in any of them, does Harvard state they singled her out for being a Native American.

Harvard

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I picked out that article because it was a CNN article. I knew that lefties would automatically discard any righty sources, so I picked CNN. Are you saying that CNN is fake news?
 
Evmetro said:
I picked out that article because it was a CNN article. I knew that lefties would automatically discard any righty sources, so I picked CNN. Are you saying that CNN is fake news?
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sorry, you're full of shit

Warren is indeed of Native American stock

suckered again, sad
 
reagansghost said:
sorry, you're full of shit

Warren is indeed of Native American stock

suckered again, sad
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It doesn’t matter even if she is 100% white. IT’S A FAMILY STORY. She has nothing to prove. These TW lemmings are merely taking their lead from the most prolific liar the WH has ever seen. And they shit their collective britches over one PERCEIVED lie. They can’t even prove their basic premise. That she did, in fact, lie.
 
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