President Incites Violence, We Get MAGA Bomber, Then Trump Claims We Don't Want That.

Hello Heff,

Yeah I think if you're accusing someone of inciting violence you'd have to prove it.

Of course you do. How else can you justify supporting the one who incites hatred? That's the trick. Trump supporters are giving him a free pass on this. The president's rhetoric has been mean and spiteful. He regularly insults people. That's not professional. He is a hack politician. He doesn't care that he whips up hatred. That's how he gets power; power gets him money; and money is all he cares about. If he had a heart he would be spending time with his pre-teen son, acting like a father. But no. He is too busy tweeting about himself.

It's crazy to witness such hatred over words and speech. Political correctness is a huge problem for the vast majority of the nation, so when I see such vitriol against...well, vitriol...I find it suspicious.

Political correctness is called being polite and respectful. Political correctness is what the Bible tells you to do, if you care about that. I don't, but find it hilarious that so many say they do, but don't really. What a farce!
 
Hello Heff,



Of course you do. How else can you justify supporting the one who incites hatred? That's the trick. Trump supporters are giving him a free pass on this. The president's rhetoric has been mean and spiteful. He regularly insults people. That's not professional. He is a hack politician. He doesn't care that he whips up hatred. That's how he gets power; power gets him money; and money is all he cares about. If he had a heart he would be spending time with his pre-teen son, acting like a father. But no. He is too busy tweeting about himself.

The accuser has to prove such a charge. You know, due process, presumption of innocence and all that. Mean? Sure. Spiteful? Sure. Unprofessional? Sure. But those are not the same as incitement.

Political correctness is called being polite and respectful. Political correctness is what the Bible tells you to do, if you care about that. I don't, but find it hilarious that so many say they do, but don't really. What a farce!

By political correctness I am speaking about censorship disguised as being "polite" and "respectful".

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/
 
Yeah I think if you're accusing someone of inciting violence you'd have to prove it.

It's crazy to witness such hatred over words and speech. Political correctness is a huge problem for the vast majority of the nation, so when I see such vitriol against...well, vitriol...I find it suspicious.

Trumps words prove it. He incites violence and foments anger and hatred. He is an "us against them" kind of guy. That ends discussion and potential compromise as options. Trump is a huge match lighting flames of violence.,
 
Trumps words prove it. He incites violence and foments anger and hatred. He is an "us against them" kind of guy. That ends discussion and potential compromise as options. Trump is a huge match lighting flames of violence.,

Do you get hateful, violent and angry every time he speaks?
 

Oops!

I backed you into a corner; and out come the teeth.

Well, you really were in a tough position.

I mean it's just laughable you were trying to argue that there are more hate groups on the left than on the right.

:laugh:

You tore off into this lame demand that I go and do a shipload of homework after I presented the data. No. And a lame try, too. No. It doesn't work that way. You made the claim, you provide supporting evidence. It is absurd to request that I go and dig into each one of those groups to determine whether it is a left wing or a right wing group. Such a task could take weeks of full time work. Yeah, right. Somebody on a chat board is going to do that to meet a blithe demand made in a post. By someone who insults you, no less. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen. NOT! Nothing like putting the goalposts on the moon.......

Here's a safe assumption. All those groups are all on the right except some of the black separatist groups. There may be exceptions to that, but they would be outliers. The basic premise is a safe assumption. Just how many of the list of Racist/Skinhead groups do you think are going to BE left wing? What is YOUR estimate? Mine is they are ALL right wing groups. How about the white separatist/nationalist groups? How many of those do you think are left wing? I say 0. No. I am not going to 'prove it.' YOU are the one making the outrageous outlier claim. YOU show something to support YOUR claim.

You can't do that, so you've gotten personal. Calling me names. Shame on you. Can't argue your position so ya just try to derail the conversation, turn it into a flame war. That's trolling. How pathetic.

Man? I came here to talk politics. Screw that. I don't play that game. I wanna know how well informed are you? My knowledge against yours. I've got the upper hand here. You've shown nothing to support your claim. You're talking to somebody who is better-informed than you are on this subject. All I need to do is post the publicly available data. Yes, the stuff that's reported in the main stream news. Because the news is real. 'Alternative facts.' That's what's fake. Made-up claims from the president. That's fake. Just like your argument. No support, nothing to back it up, just empty words. Words are free. There's a dictionary full of 'em. The President can make up anything he wants. That doesn't make it true. I don't care how many of his supporters try to say it is. There's nothing to back it up! It is widely reported how often the President makes false claims. Shame on those who believe him. Fooling yourself does not make America great.

I've supported what I posted.

You've got nothing.

And I'll proffer you a warning. Don't get personal with me. Attack my position all you like. Rip it to shreds if you can. Don't start talking about me. That is unless you are ready to wave the white flag and you want to be done forever. That can be arranged. I do not mess around with that. And I don't EVER take anyone off Ignore. Just to be clear. Yes. My rules are different. I require civility. And I know I can have it. There is so much volume at this place I can freely filter out all trolls and still have way more great political debate than I can keep up with. So don't mess with me. I understand how common the flame wars are. I am simply not interested in that. I see no benefit out of it. I have spoiled myself and carved out my own niche of clean debate. I have done this for a long time. It totally works. No way I will ever go back to the flames. I want the highest quality of political arguments I can filter out of this place and I will freely drop anyone who stands in the way of that. If you can make that transcendence with me, I am honored to mix it up with you. But it's got to be at that level. I simply enjoy my life too much to want to regress to the level most commonly seen here. I've got it good and I know it. And I know how to carve it out, nurture and preserve that. I know when to pull the plug on people. You're close. Back off right now and we'll be fine. Push it and we are done. Nothing personal. It's just how I manage my posting experience. You understand.

If I made you angry use that to present a better argument. Or you could just admit you're wrong. You really are wrong, you know. Has it even crossed your mind that you might possibly BE wrong on this? I have no doubt that you are wrong. I have admitted it when I've been wrong before. It's no big deal. It's reSPECTable! This is actually a wonderful opportunity to build credibility and respect around here. If you just admit you were wrong, and that you were also wrong to call me names for backing you into a corner. It should have been expected what happened to you. Those lists have been made public. It's not fake news. They are almost all right wing hate groups.
 
Oops!

I backed you into a corner; and out come the teeth.

Well, you really were in a tough position.

You can try and flatter yourself. You really are the only person doing that. Either prove your point (which, by your meltdown you are incapable of) or just STFU. Really simple even for a partisan hack like you.
 
Goodbye Sailor,

It's the farewell post.

You can try and flatter yourself. You really are the only person doing that. Either prove your point (which, by your meltdown you are incapable of) or just STFU. Really simple even for a partisan hack like you.

Looks like a white flag to me. You give up. Can't carry on a clean political debate. OK. Got that. I know how to deal with it.

I warned you not to flame me.

Told you I have no interest in a flame war. Just want to talk about politics. JUST PLAIN POLITICS. (Some think the name of the forum is Just Plain Insults)

And there you go.

Can't help yourself. Just gotta get personal.

No problem.

From now on, you may say anything you like about me. Knock yourself out. Write reams. Let out all that pent up frustration. I won't be reading a single word of it. You may as well be posting to a delete chamber. All of your posts will be filtered out, just scroll on by. Never reply.

It's funny. I used to do the flame war thing. Made me irritable. That energy invaded the rest of my life. Peace. I am into living a peaceful life, now. I just don't want your stress, man. I've learned how to leave it behind. And that means leaving you behind. Nothing personal. We all have to take care of ourselves. I wish you a good life. Just have it without me, thanks. I'll be having a great one without you. It's only fair. Civil discourse requires mutual respect. I have respected you enough to refrain from flames, you can't do that. I can accept that. I do wish you well.

Poof.
 
Trump, as the most prolific accuser, never has supporting evidence for his hateful claims.

So why would you advocate the same?

Speaking about moving the goalposts.

I'm not sure you understand what moving the goalposts entail. I was merely saying your definition of political correctness was way off.
 
So why would you advocate the same?



I'm not sure you understand what moving the goalposts entail. I was merely saying your definition of political correctness was way off.

you are merely saying nothing, total run-of-the-mill right wing horseshit
 
No it isn't. The love of political correctness is common among a vocal group of progressives, which is only about 8% of the population. As for the rest, they roundly oppose political correctness. So no, not right-wing at all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

Is that what that article says? Only 8% of the population care about political correctness? I'm gonna have to read that. I find that hard to believe. I don't have time to look at it now. Maybe tomorrow.
 
Let us not forget:

The violent terrorists on the right were stirred into action by the false words reporting the made-up PizzaGate story about Hillary.
 
Looks like the guy was anti-social. Living in a van, hanging out in strip bars.

We need more loving in our society.

We gotta ratchet down the 'mean' and stoke up the 'nice.'

We need more respect for one another.
 
Hello Heff,

No it isn't. The love of political correctness is common among a vocal group of progressives, which is only about 8% of the population. As for the rest, they roundly oppose political correctness. So no, not right-wing at all.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

I don't know how much we can draw from that survey. They never defined, nor asked respondents what they meant by 'political correctness.'

"since the survey question did not define political correctness for respondents, we cannot be sure what, exactly, the 80 percent of Americans who regard it as a problem have in mind."

Here is an interesting comparison:

"while 80 percent of Americans believe that political correctness has become a problem in the country, even more, 82 percent, believe that hate speech is also a problem."

This makes sense:

"It turns out that while progressive activists tend to think that only hate speech is a problem, and devoted conservatives tend to think that only political correctness is a problem, a clear majority of all Americans holds a more nuanced point of view: They abhor racism. But they don’t think that the way we now practice political correctness represents a promising way to overcome racial injustice.

And this too:

"For the millions upon millions of Americans of all ages and all races who do not follow politics with rapt attention, and who are much more worried about paying their rent than about debating the prom dress worn by a teenager in Utah, contemporary callout culture merely looks like an excuse to mock the values or ignorance of others."

That would be the people who also think politics is dirty and they don't want to get involved, then suffer the consequences of a government controlled by those who do get involved - sometimes to the tune of millions of dollars they expect a return from.
 
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