Has a Brexit deal been done?

Kacper said:
More or less. From what I have read, a British re-entry would likely require the UK to give up the pound, forfeit all the special exceptions it carved out for itself in the original Brexit design, and surrender completely to EU laws and regulations. Likely one of the reasons many who voted to remain think that they now have no choice but to exit--staying would have a high price as well.
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The EU wants to have approval of all Eurozone budgets after 2021, so they can tighten their grip even more. Only morons and Marxists would go along with that bollocks. Of course, it would also mean that Corbyn's Cavaliers wouldn't get a budget approved at all. Sadly fools like Iolo are totally unaware of that fact.
 
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Jack said:
Hey. If Iolo is from Wales, ask him if he ever heard of Llangerig, Montgomeryshire, Wales. I've got a distant relative that came over here in 1708 (with his 10 kids and wife) from there. His name was Richard George and he was a Quaker (Society of Friends).
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Why don't you ask him yourself? Quakers here suffered more extreme persecution that in England, so a great number went to Pennsylvania, which is why you had a 'Welsh Tract'. Wonder if your man was related to Lloyd George. It is (obviously) not at all a common 'Welsh' name.
 
Havana Moon said:
The EU wants to have approval of all Eurozone budgets after 2021, so they can tighten their grip even more. Only morons and Marxists would go along with that bollocks. Of course, it would also men that Corbyn's Cavaliers would get a budget approved at all. Sadly fools like Iolo are totally unaware of that fact.
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TBH I was unaware as well, but the end result of the union as always been an inevitable political unification of its members into a single nation state. They will become comparable to US states as opposed to independent nations.
 
iolo said:
Why don't you ask him yourself? Quakers here suffered more extreme persecution that in England, so a great number went to Pennsylvania, which is why you had a 'Welsh Tract'. Wonder if your man was related to Lloyd George. It is (obviously) not at all a common 'Welsh' name.
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He did go to Chester, Pennsylvania (a little south of Philadelphia). Then, on to Berks County, PA.
His father was supposedly 'George George' from Llangerig.
His wife supposedly had a father named 'Ellis Ellis' from Llangelynn, County Merionethshire, Wales.
Any of those names or places sound familiar? (I can't even pronounce them)

I just found out that William Penn was a Quaker. (Along with Thomas Paine)
 
Jack said:
He did go to Chester, Pennsylvania (a little south of Philadelphia). Then, on to Berks County, PA.
His father was supposedly 'George George' from Llangerig.
His wife supposedly had a father named 'Ellis Ellis' from Llangelynn, County Merionethshire, Wales.
Any of those names or places sound familiar? (I can't even pronounce them)

I just found out that William Penn was a Quaker. (Along with Thomas Paine)
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They're small places. I know of them, but have never been to either, as far as I know. I'll check on them. The pronunciations aren't difficult - the letter 'll' (in 'Llan' - Ellis is anglicised) is the only problem for foreigners, and all you have to do is put your tongue to say 'l' then breathe hard. 'Llan' was originally an enclosure where monks lived, and it came to mean 'church' so probably, 'church of the rocks' and, perhaps, 'church of holly'.

We'd call them 'George Twice' and 'Ellis Twice'. I don't think Tom Paine was a Quaker, though Penn certainly was. I attended for a long time, but never became a member.
 
iolo said:
They're small places. I know of them, but have never been to either, as far as I know. I'll check on them. The pronunciations aren't difficult - the letter 'll' (in 'Llan' - Ellis is anglicised) is the only problem for foreigners, and all you have to do is put your tongue to say 'l' then breathe hard. 'Llan' was originally an enclosure where monks lived, and it came to mean 'church so probably, 'church of the rocks' and, perhaps, 'church of holly'.

We'd call them 'George Twice' and 'Ellis Twice'. I don't think Tom Paine was a Quaker. I attended for a long time, but never became a member.
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Thanks, Iolo. I joined Ancestry.com about 6 months ago and they give you all kinds of 'Hints' to follow. My grandmother passed down a List of Relatives with all kinds of names on it. For the 'George' branch there were 4 brothers, 'Ellis', 'Isaac', 'William', and 'Asa'. They were all Farmers and all liked to have a bunch of kids. There's a lot of Descendants here. I have a lot of DNA Matches that have a similar Family Tree that goes back to the 'Georges of Wales'. :)

Thanks for the feedback.
 
Jack said:
He did go to Chester, Pennsylvania (a little south of Philadelphia). Then, on to Berks County, PA.
His father was supposedly 'George George' from Llangerig.
His wife supposedly had a father named 'Ellis Ellis' from Llangelynn, County Merionethshire, Wales.
Any of those names or places sound familiar? (I can't even pronounce them)

I just found out that William Penn was a Quaker. (Along with Thomas Paine)
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Jack take this to PM! Nobody cares except you and the Welsh Windbag.
 
Havana Moon said:
Jack take this to PM! Nobody cares except you and the Welsh Windbag.
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(shaking head) Look, Havana Twat. I thought it might be an interesting post. A little something about 'Americana' during this Thanksgiving Season.
Naturally, YOU and you fucking English Muffins, your Crumpets and your fucking Tea don't give a shit.

News Flash: We dumped your overpriced tea overboard in Boston. We DON'T drink Tea. We drink COFFEE. We're Americans! (Why in God's Name do they let Englishmen post here?)
 
Spain to reject Brexit deal unless Gibraltar issue clarified
PM Pedro Sanchez says he will vote against draft deal if no changes made to reflect negotiations about Gibraltar status.

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Spain has said that it will vote against a deal agreed between London and Brussels for Britain's departure from the bloc, or Brexit, if it does not guarantee Madrid's veto over Gibraltar's future status.
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Good. If they're going to cast the Brits adrift from Europe then make a thorough job of it. No toehold in Spain.
 
The problem with Gibraltar is, as with the Six Counties in Ireland, the Falklands and so on, the people there want to stay as they are. What would you do?
 
iolo said:
The problem with Gibraltar is, as with the Six Counties in Ireland, the Falklands and so on, the people there want to stay as they are. What would you do?
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They just have to accept that they're Spanish. If they don't want to be Spanish they can go to England.
What's wrong with being Spanish ?
 
moon said:
They just have to accept that they're Spanish. If they don't want to be Spanish they can go to England.
What's wrong with being Spanish ?
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So why don't the Spanish hand back Ceuta and Melilla, genius? Oh and have you ever heard of the Treaty of Utrecht, probably not?
 
moon said:
They just have to accept that they're Spanish. If they don't want to be Spanish they can go to England.
What's wrong with being Spanish ?
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Why? They're not English - they're Gibraltarians. The Spaniards incline to very nasty dictators, I suppose.
 
Havana Moon said:
So why don't the Spanish hand back Ceuta and Melilla, genius? Oh and have you ever heard of the Treaty of Utrecht, probably not?
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You'll have to ask them, maggot. Meanwhile fuck off out of Gibraltar. Ceuta and Melilla aren't British.
 
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