Trump pulls out of Syria

I agree.. He saw American exceptionalism as Noblesse Oblige. The responsibility of privileged people to act with generosity and nobility to those less privileged... and THAT is American exceptionalism

Certainly COULD be, to whom much is given and shit. But we don't embrace responsibility in this culture, we blame to avoid responsibility.
 
Certainly COULD be, to whom much is given and shit. But we don't embrace responsibility in this culture, we blame to avoid responsibility.

You're right most blame or whine that they are victims.. Trump seems to be all about blame and he certainly has no higher sense of responsibility.
 
You want a war with Russia over Syria?

That's laughable!

Putin knows fully well that he don't want a conventional war with the United States! He's not suicidal!

And we don't really give two squirts of crap about Russia's little boat dock in Syria.

But Russia does want us to leave the Middle East and our influence in the region and take our eye off of his connections to Iran and their ability to arm them and help them develop nuclear weapons.

And Russia wants to help Assad kill off the Rebels and help the Turks kill off the Kurds the minute we leave.

Only they are US allies, we have made prior commitments to, that have been helping us fight ISIS and put up a resistance to Assad who is a murdering dictator!

So no, we are stuck in Syria until there are safer havens for our allies in the region or there is a regime change- whatever comes first!

We would certainly never tuck tail and run, and turn the region over to Assad, Iran, and the Russians!
 
That's laughable!

Putin knows fully well that he don't want a conventional war with the United States! He's not suicidal!

And we don't really give two squirts of crap about Russia's little boat dock in Syria.

But Russia does want us to leave the Middle East and our influence in the region and take our eye off of his connections to Iran and their ability to arm them and help them develop nuclear weapons.

And Russia wants to help Assad kill off the Rebels and help the Turks kill off the Kurds the minute we leave.

Only they are US allies, we have made prior commitments to, that have been helping us fight ISIS and put up a resistance to Assad who is a murdering dictator!

So no, we are stuck in Syria until there are safer havens for our allies in the region or there is a regime change- whatever comes first!

We would certainly never tuck tail and run, and turn the region over to Assad, Iran, and the Russians!

LOL.. We haven't cared about Port Tartus since 1971 and still don't. Syria is lost and I doubt the refugees will ever go home.. For the present I worry about Lebanon.
 
You're right most blame or whine that they are victims.. Trump seems to be all about blame and he certainly has no higher sense of responsibility.

Pardon the language m'Lady, but Don is the quintessential spoiled american trust fund baby who had everything in life given to him via birthright, yet still sees himself as a perpetual victim and has never behaved like anything other than a whiny little punkass bitch in public view for decades - all his adult life. His appeal is strongest amongst other white supremacist self-victimizing whites.
 
Pardon the language m'Lady, but Don is the quintessential spoiled american trust fund baby who had everything in life given to him via birthright, yet still sees himself as a perpetual victim and has never behaved like anything other than a whiny little punkass bitch in public view for decades - all his adult life. His appeal is strongest amongst other white supremacist self-victimizing whites.

When you're right, you're right.
 
Obama was more of a "Lead by example" president.

Obama realized as president, he was the leader of the Free World, and that was what justified our military exceptionalism mite in the world.

He certainly "DID NOT" have a problem with America being an exceptional nation promoting and protecting freedom and setting a good example around the world.

He did everything he could to demoralize and defund the U.S. military, and hide the growth of ISIS. And he honored military traitors like Bergdahl and Bradley Manning.
 
Our specops began running operations in Syria from Iraq in late 2004 and early 2005.

Why?


Bush demands Syria be 'good neighbor' - Oct 12, 2005 - CNN

President Bush on Wednesday called on Syria's government to be a "good neighbor" in the Middle East, warning Damascus not to interfere in Lebanon, incite Palestinian militants or allow insurgents to cross into Iraq.

http://us.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/12/bush.syria/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday called on Syria's government to be a "good neighbor" in the Middle East, warning Damascus not to interfere in Lebanon, incite Palestinian militants or allow insurgents to cross into Iraq.

"We're making good progress toward peace in the Holy Land, but one of the areas of concern is that foreign countries such as Syria might try to disrupt the peace process by encouraging terrorist activities," Bush said.

Bush said the government of Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad must let Lebanon rule itself after 30 years under pro-Syrian governments and "not to agitate killers in the Palestinian territory." (Watch CNN's interview with Syria's president -- 22:40)

He also demanded that Damascus pay closer attention to its border with Iraq, where U.S. troops have battled an insurgency since the 2003 invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein.

"We expect Syria to do everything in her power to shut down the transshipment of suiciders and killers into Iraq," Bush told reporters at the White House. "We expect Syria to be a good neighbor to Iraq."

U.S. officials have complained that insurgents, including Islamic militants linked to waves of suicide bombings, have been crossing into Iraq from Syria.

U.S. and Iraqi troops have launched recent offensives in towns near the border to crack down on insurgents, who have killed hundreds of U.S. troops since Bush declared an end to "major combat" in May 2003.

Bush's remarks came the same day that Syrian Interior Minister Ghazi Kanaan committed suicide after Lebanese television accused him of taking payoffs as commander of Syria's military intelligence corps in Lebanon.

U.N. investigators also had investigated Kanaan in connection with the February assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, who had begun to urge a withdrawal of Syrian troops.

Hours before his death, Kanaan denied the bribery allegations in an interview with a Lebanese radio station and said he had no involvement in Hariri's death.

Protests sparked by Hariri's killing helped end the decades-long Syrian presence in Lebanon, with a withdrawal in April.

In an interview with CNN on Wednesday, Al-Assad denied his government had played a role in the death and said any Syrian official who did would be guilty of "treason."
 
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Our specops began running operations in Syria from Iraq in late 2004 and early 2005.

Barely counts as an intervention. Since you’re scraping for partisan points we’ll give it to you.

Things heated up in Syria under Obama. During the Red Line fiasco, Obama went to congress for approval on military action and couldn’t round up the votes.

The important lesson there is that our presence in Syria has never had popular support in Congress. For the simple reason so many voters are tired of it. Note also, that it was the voters who kept us from direct military action in Syria and not John Kerry or the war other war hawks. The Perpetual War Establishment doesn’t like being impeded by the unwashed masses.

Trump has a way of finding himself on the right side of a lot of issues.
 
Barely counts as an intervention. Since you’re scraping for partisan points we’ll give it to you.

Things heated up in Syria under Obama. During the Red Line fiasco, Obama went to congress for approval on military action and couldn’t round up the votes.

The important lesson there is that our presence in Syria has never had popular support in Congress. For the simple reason so many voters are tired of it. Note also, that it was the voters who kept us from direct military action in Syria and not John Kerry or the war other war hawks. The Perpetual War Establishment doesn’t like being impeded by the unwashed masses.

Trump has a way of finding himself on the right side of a lot of issues.

Assad was providing cover for Iraqis attacking US military in Iraq.. That's what pissed Bush off.
 
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