Can you cite some examples of this alleged ignorance?
☭ This is Socialism ☭
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Can you cite some examples of this alleged ignorance?
Think they will have a plan to fund it?
Is that so?
Fentoine Lum
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Wall Street and the corporate state are subsidized via socialism in america, it’s only off limits for the unsubstantial people. Thanks for providing a link from the think tank that has lobbied and think-tank-draft-legislated the wealth redistribution over the past half century or so; we all know who it is.
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
I do not wish to "learn from you" because you ARE a Communist scumbag, Gord.
I always enjoy these socialism/capitalism exchanges, but the reality is that they don't relate, there exists few if any pure socialist or capitalist economies in the world, every nation has some form of mixed economy, the US ended being a straight capitalist economy early in the 19th Century, if it really ever was one
montgomery
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Exactly! When I speak of socially responsible capitalism I'm at the same time making the comparison to US style of greedy and socially irresponsible capitalism. Canada, or any of the European countries or the Scandinavian countries aren't socialist countries with socialist governments of course. It's akin to Nazism to suggest they are and that's where the trash like Boris are failing to understand.
Or maybe he's just angry with his Alabama sister/wife for not putting out for him?
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Huffpo it one of the largest, most socialist, popular leftwing sites.
And Limbaugh is an honest truth telling source, the world according to "the big chiwawa"
montgomery
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Huffpo it one of the largest, most socialist, popular leftwing sites.
You fail to meet the challenge and so if you want my attention you're going to have to apply yourself to addressing the mess that is US health care.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
And that doesn't even mention hospital-acquired infections!
If you fail to meet the challenge then I'll be dismissing you, as I have done the others who can't stand up tall enough to see the bar to get my service. Last warning bigdog!
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This is Venezuelan socialism ☭
RIO CHICO, Venezuela (Reuters) - Under the midday sun, dozens of fishermen wait to sell their day’s catch by a lagoon in the town of Rio Chico on the Caribbean coast of Venezuela. But they aren’t expecting cash in return.
Instead, they’re swapping mullets and snappers for packages of flour, rice and cooking oil.
“There is no cash here, only barter,” said Mileidy Lovera, 30, walking along the shore with a cooler of fish that her husband had caught. She hoped to exchange it for food to feed her four children, or medicine to treat her son’s epilepsy.
In the hyperinflationary South American country, where bank notes are as difficult to find as chronically scarce food and medicine, Venezuelans are increasingly relying on to barter for basic transactions.
Payment for even the cheapest of goods and services would require unwieldy piles of banknotes, and there simply are not enough of those in circulation.
Once one of Latin America’s wealthiest countries, Venezuela’s economic collapse under President Nicolas Maduro’s government drove nearly one million people - 3 percent of the population - to emigrate between 2015 and 2017.
Maduro, reelected to a fresh six-year term in May in elections condemned by the United States, blames spiraling consumer prices and constant shortages of food and medicine on the opposition and Washington.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-barter/fish-for-flour-barter-is-the-new-currency-in-collapsing-venezuela-idUSKBN1JT1UM?il=0
RIO CHICO, Venezuela (Reuters) - Under the midday sun, dozens of fishermen wait to sell their day’s catch by a lagoon in the town of Rio Chico on the Caribbean coast of Venezuela. But they aren’t expecting cash in return.
Instead, they’re swapping mullets and snappers for packages of flour, rice and cooking oil.
“There is no cash here, only barter,” said Mileidy Lovera, 30, walking along the shore with a cooler of fish that her husband had caught. She hoped to exchange it for food to feed her four children, or medicine to treat her son’s epilepsy.
In the hyperinflationary South American country, where bank notes are as difficult to find as chronically scarce food and medicine, Venezuelans are increasingly relying on to barter for basic transactions.
Payment for even the cheapest of goods and services would require unwieldy piles of banknotes, and there simply are not enough of those in circulation.
Once one of Latin America’s wealthiest countries, Venezuela’s economic collapse under President Nicolas Maduro’s government drove nearly one million people - 3 percent of the population - to emigrate between 2015 and 2017.
Maduro, reelected to a fresh six-year term in May in elections condemned by the United States, blames spiraling consumer prices and constant shortages of food and medicine on the opposition and Washington.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-barter/fish-for-flour-barter-is-the-new-currency-in-collapsing-venezuela-idUSKBN1JT1UM?il=0
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Communism was the leading ideologically-based cause of death between 1900 and 2000.
The 94 million that perished under Communist rule in China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Eastern Europe easily (and tragically) dwarf the 28 million that died under evil fascist regimes during the same period.
During the 20th century, more people died under Communism than perished in homicides (58 million) and genocide (30 million) put together.
The combined death tolls of WWI (37 million) and WWII (66 million) exceeded Communism’s total by only 9 million.
It gets worse. Animals killed 7 million people during the 20th century, natural disasters ended the existences of 24 million humans, and famines snuffed out 101 million lives, many of them babies and children. All of the world’s worst famines during the 20th century were in Communist countries: China, the Soviet Union, and North Korea.
Food shopping in a Socialist paradise
As you enjoy your day in peace and liberty under the leadership of President Donald J. Trump, please remember the helpless Hispanic people of Venezuela and Cuba oppressed by Communist tyrants, and the millions of Asians whose freedom is extinguished by brutal Communist regimes in China and its' client states North Korea, Laos, and Vietnam.[/QUOTE]
Plenty of unsubstantial people have received socialism. In the 50 years after Johnson's Great Society began, something that was supposed to eradicate poverty but failed miserably, $22 trillion was wasted.
This is Venezuelan socialism ☭
☭SOCIALIST ELITES STEAL WHILE CHILDREN STARVE UNDER LEFTIST GOVERNMENT☭
Venezuelan cocoa trader Freddy Galindo has battled highway robberies, kidnappings of family members and declining quality in his 19 years exporting the nation’s legendary beans.
This year’s harvest brought a new worry: meddling by the socialist government.
Trucks filled with beans leaving his warehouse in central Venezuela were stopped by soldiers at checkpoints and held for days; drivers were forced to unload cargos at government warehouses.
87 tonnes of his cocoa, worth about $130,000, were missing when the trucks were finally released.
Other traders in Venezuela have reported similar delays and confiscations in recent months.
Government officials say the beans have been seized by the state to settle delinquent tax bills.
Growers and traders fear their industry is being targeted for a government takeover.
Nationalization has crippled Venezuela’s oil and manufacturing sectors as well as agricultural industries including coffee and sugar.
The private sector still controls most of the cocoa trade. But with crude output collapsing amid an economic crisis, the government has increased its emphasis on alternative export industries such as cocoa and gold.
Chocolate makers have cut back their purchases of Venezuelan cocoa in recent years.
Delays in export permits have stalled shipments, forcing buyers to go elsewhere. Quality has suffered too. Venezuela’s strict currency controls have prevented many farmers from getting imported chemicals they need to fight disease. Wary of thieves, many growers have abandoned the flavor-enhancing practice of laying harvested beans out to dry and ferment.
“That processing is as much an art as making the final product. It is a very sad situation,” said Gary Guittard, president and chief executive of Guittard Chocolate Company. He has reduced purchases of Venezuelan cocoa because of the dearth of top-grade beans.
The quality slide is reflected in prices. A decade ago, Venezuelan cocoa fetched 36 percent more than beans from Ivory Coast. Unwanted Venezuelan cocoa is piling up at warehouses.
An ally of President Nicolas Maduro says he has devised a plan to revive the sector. Among his initiatives: establishment of the state-run Miranda Cocoa Corporation. The state only took beans from traders who had tax debt, he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-cocoa/venezuela-cocoa-growers-fear-new-pest-the-government-idUSKCN1OQ09G
☭SOCIALIST ELITES STEAL WHILE CHILDREN STARVE UNDER LEFTIST GOVERNMENT☭
Venezuelan cocoa trader Freddy Galindo has battled highway robberies, kidnappings of family members and declining quality in his 19 years exporting the nation’s legendary beans.
This year’s harvest brought a new worry: meddling by the socialist government.
Trucks filled with beans leaving his warehouse in central Venezuela were stopped by soldiers at checkpoints and held for days; drivers were forced to unload cargos at government warehouses.
87 tonnes of his cocoa, worth about $130,000, were missing when the trucks were finally released.
Other traders in Venezuela have reported similar delays and confiscations in recent months.
Government officials say the beans have been seized by the state to settle delinquent tax bills.
Growers and traders fear their industry is being targeted for a government takeover.
Nationalization has crippled Venezuela’s oil and manufacturing sectors as well as agricultural industries including coffee and sugar.
The private sector still controls most of the cocoa trade. But with crude output collapsing amid an economic crisis, the government has increased its emphasis on alternative export industries such as cocoa and gold.
Chocolate makers have cut back their purchases of Venezuelan cocoa in recent years.
Delays in export permits have stalled shipments, forcing buyers to go elsewhere. Quality has suffered too. Venezuela’s strict currency controls have prevented many farmers from getting imported chemicals they need to fight disease. Wary of thieves, many growers have abandoned the flavor-enhancing practice of laying harvested beans out to dry and ferment.
“That processing is as much an art as making the final product. It is a very sad situation,” said Gary Guittard, president and chief executive of Guittard Chocolate Company. He has reduced purchases of Venezuelan cocoa because of the dearth of top-grade beans.
The quality slide is reflected in prices. A decade ago, Venezuelan cocoa fetched 36 percent more than beans from Ivory Coast. Unwanted Venezuelan cocoa is piling up at warehouses.
An ally of President Nicolas Maduro says he has devised a plan to revive the sector. Among his initiatives: establishment of the state-run Miranda Cocoa Corporation. The state only took beans from traders who had tax debt, he said.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-cocoa/venezuela-cocoa-growers-fear-new-pest-the-government-idUSKCN1OQ09G
☭ Socialists seized the oil industry
☭ THIS IS SOCIALISM☭
Major General Manuel Quevedo joined his wife, a Catholic priest and a gathering of oil workers in prayer in a conference room at the headquarters of Petroleos de Venezuela SA, or PDVSA.
The career military officer, who for the past year has been boss at the troubled state-owned oil company, was at no ordinary mass. The gathering, rather, was a ceremony at which he and other senior oil ministry officials asked God to boost oil output.
“This place of peace and spirituality,” read a release by the Oil Ministry that was later scrubbed from its web site, “was the site of prayer by workers for the recovery of production of the industry.”
President Nicolas Maduro turned heads in November 2017 when he named a National Guard general with no oil experience to lead PDVSA. Quevedo’s actions since have raised even more doubts that he and the other military brass now running the company have a viable plan to rescue it from crushing debt, an exodus of workers and withering production now at its lowest in almost seven decades.
Aside from beseeching heaven, Quevedo enacted a series of controversial measures pushing the once-profitable and respected company towards ruin.
Soldiers with AK-47s now board tankers to accompany cargo inspectors, rattling foreign captains and crews.
Workers who make mistakes operating increasingly dilapidated PDVSA equipment now face the risk of arrest and charges of sabotage or corruption. Military chieftains are elbowing past others for lucrative service and supply business with PDVSA.
The steps leave Venezuela’s most important company - which accounts for over 90 percent of export revenue - with even fewer means to rebuild the nation’s coffers, pay its many creditors and regain self-sufficiency as an oil producer.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-pdvsa-military-specialrepor/special-report-oil-output-goes-awol-in-venezuela-as-soldiers-run-pdvsa-idUSKCN1OP0RZ
☭ THIS IS SOCIALISM☭
Major General Manuel Quevedo joined his wife, a Catholic priest and a gathering of oil workers in prayer in a conference room at the headquarters of Petroleos de Venezuela SA, or PDVSA.
The career military officer, who for the past year has been boss at the troubled state-owned oil company, was at no ordinary mass. The gathering, rather, was a ceremony at which he and other senior oil ministry officials asked God to boost oil output.
“This place of peace and spirituality,” read a release by the Oil Ministry that was later scrubbed from its web site, “was the site of prayer by workers for the recovery of production of the industry.”
President Nicolas Maduro turned heads in November 2017 when he named a National Guard general with no oil experience to lead PDVSA. Quevedo’s actions since have raised even more doubts that he and the other military brass now running the company have a viable plan to rescue it from crushing debt, an exodus of workers and withering production now at its lowest in almost seven decades.
Aside from beseeching heaven, Quevedo enacted a series of controversial measures pushing the once-profitable and respected company towards ruin.
Soldiers with AK-47s now board tankers to accompany cargo inspectors, rattling foreign captains and crews.
Workers who make mistakes operating increasingly dilapidated PDVSA equipment now face the risk of arrest and charges of sabotage or corruption. Military chieftains are elbowing past others for lucrative service and supply business with PDVSA.
The steps leave Venezuela’s most important company - which accounts for over 90 percent of export revenue - with even fewer means to rebuild the nation’s coffers, pay its many creditors and regain self-sufficiency as an oil producer.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-pdvsa-military-specialrepor/special-report-oil-output-goes-awol-in-venezuela-as-soldiers-run-pdvsa-idUSKCN1OP0RZ