Democrat Ocasio-Cortez is Anti-Military

LV426 said:
Back in 2008, I was working for a newspaper whose editor assigned me to investigate this "Joe the Plumber" guy because my editor thought his story was really fishy and didn't add up. So we began a deep dive into this character and found out that he was just posturing to try and ambush Obama; that he wasn't a plumber, hadn't been a plumber for years, was unemployed, and his name wasn't even Joe!

Because he never paid any sort of price for lying about himself....
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Apparently you weren't a very good reporter.
 
Dark Soul said:
My position is that when someone attacks me by accusing me of being uneducated, poor, live in a trailer, etc., then I state facts that show that dispute the accusation. It's up to the accuser to prove his case, not mine to disprove it
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What facts?

You stating facts would be you showing proof of the claims you make about yourself.

Saying something anonymously on an internet message board is not "a fact".

I've seen poseurs like you before (Sam Wurzelbacher, Ashley Todd), though they were much better at lying than you.


t is also my policy to accept someone else's claims at face value
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That's called "naivety", and it's why you got conned so easy by Trump.
 
Dark Soul said:
Little Virgin is the type who requires an unobtainable standard of evidence for those who he dislikes, yet sets the bar on the floor as the standard for himself and other who he agrees with.
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I don't accept personal anecdotes from anyone as the basis of an argument.

If you have to pad your resume just to make your argument convincing, then your argument sucks and you're a shitty person.


I once had to explain to him about the legal standard of "preponderance of evidence" as compared with "beyond a reasonable doubt", and he had no idea of what I was talking about.
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This never happened.

You were trying to convince me the bullshit lies you make about yourself are true, but you don't have to provide proof they are.

Why the fuck should I accept you at your word? Why should anyone?
 
Dark Soul said:
Apparently you weren't a very good reporter.
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Oh, I'm not a reporter.

And I am good at my job...it's how I found out that "Joe the Plumber" was really Sam Wurzelbacher the unemployed goon.

It's also how I found out that Ashley Todd didn't really have a run-in with an Obama supporter who carved a backwards "B" in her cheek...she did that to herself to try an elicit sympathy for McCain and Palin because they're unsympathetic people.

So...not my first rodeo when it comes to Conservative bullshit artists; and all the red flags that were there for those two are also present with you.

What was really hilarious about the whole thing was calling up Sam Wurzelbacher's previous employers and finding out what a loser he actually was. There was a reason he was unemployed at the time he tried to trap Obama, and he even tried to parlay that bullshit into a career that, like all his previous ones, went nowhere.
 
LV426 said:
What facts? You stating facts would be you showing proof...
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Fact: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
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Again, it's not up to me to prove anything to the accuser. All I do is dispute it in a plausible way, and I'm under no obligation to do even that.

Your dismissal of facts without evidence is another logical fallacy on your part...
 
LV426 said:
Oh, I'm not a reporter.

And I am good at my job...it's how I found out that "Joe the Plumber" was really Sam Wurzelbacher the unemployed goon.

It's also how I found out that Ashley Todd didn't really have a run-in with an Obama supporter who carved a backwards "B" in her cheek...she did that to herself to try an elicit sympathy for McCain and Palin because they're unsympathetic people.

So...not my first rodeo when it comes to Conservative bullshit artists; and all the red flags that were there for those two are also present with you.

What was really hilarious about the whole thing was calling up Sam Wurzelbacher's previous employers and finding out what a loser he actually was. There was a reason he was unemployed at the time he tried to trap Obama, and he even tried to parlay that bullshit into a career that, like all his previous ones, went nowhere.
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"Working for a newspaper" implies being an investigative reporter. As such, there should be a "report" published by the newspaper on your findings. That is, unless the editor dismissed your work as pap...
 
Dark Soul said:
Again, it's not up to me to prove anything to the accuser.
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You claimed to have wealth and a degree, and you refuse to verify both because you think I'm going to use it against you to write bad Yelp reviews because that's what you would do.

So you're just projecting your own inherent shittiness on me.

I didn't ruin Sam Wurzelbacher's life when I did my fact-checking; his life was already ruined.

I didn't ruin Ashley Todd's life when I did my fact-checking; her life was already ruined.

You make claims about yourself that serve as the basis of your argument, that establish your credibility, then you outright refuse to verify those wild claims. Which means the arguments you make of which those claims serve the basis, are bullshit too.

If you're going to invoke your personal circumstances as establishing credibility in your argument, then you need to support that shit.

Otherwise, you're just a poseur.
 
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Dark Soul said:
"Working for a newspaper" implies being an investigative reporter. As such, there should be a "report" published by the newspaper on your findings. That is, unless the editor dismissed your work as pap...
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No, you're inferring that because you don't know shit about journalism because you just run your mouth on message boards because no one has ever held you to account for bullshitting in your entire privileged, coddled existence.

How do you think we know "Joe the Plumber's" name is actually Sam Wurzelbacher and that he was unemployed and not a plumber?

FFS, do you think his name was really "Joe" and that he was a "plumber"??????

And here's the NYT story on him that I did the fact-checking.

Thomas Joseph, the business manager of Local 50 of the United Association of Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics, based in Toledo, said Thursday that Mr. Wurzelbacher had never held a plumber’s license, which is required in Toledo and several surrounding municipalities. He also never completed an apprenticeship and does not belong to the plumber’s union, which has endorsed Mr. Obama. On Thursday, he acknowledged that he does plumbing work even though he does not have a license.

His full name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher. And he owes back taxes, too, public records show. The premise of his complaint to Mr. Obama about taxes may also be flawed, according to tax analysts. Contrary to what Mr. Wurzelbacher asserted and Mr. McCain echoed, neither his personal taxes nor those of the business where he works are likely to rise if Mr. Obama’s tax plan were to go into effect, they said.
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He is you. What Sam did is what all Conservatives do; they embellish and exaggerate.

You Conservatives practice your own itjihad...you knowingly and deliberately lie about yourselves so you can make bullshit arguments and accusations.

You're a bunch of frauds. All of you. In my work, I have not run into a single Conservative yet who hasn't lied in some way either to me, to a reporter, or just generally to anyone listening.
 
Dark Soul said:
My position is that when someone attacks me by accusing me of being uneducated, poor, live in a trailer, etc., then I state facts that show that dispute the accusation. It's up to the accuser to prove his case, not mine to disprove it.

It is also my policy to accept someone else's claims at face value, unless there is evidence otherwise.

:snoop:
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And yet by your own words you were too cowardly to join the military
 
LV426 said:
You claimed to have wealth and a degree, and you refuse to verify both because I'm going to use it against you to write bad Yelp reviews because that's what you would do.
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Corrected it for you.

Thanks for demonstrating why its important to keep shitbags like you at a distance.
 
Phantasmal said:
I have as much evidence as you in your claims.
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The evidence that you presented doesn't bolster your claim.

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LV426 said:
No, you're inferring that because you don't know shit about journalism because you just run your mouth on message boards because no one has ever held you to account for bullshitting in your entire privileged, coddled existence.

How do you think we know "Joe the Plumber's" name is actually Sam Wurzelbacher and that he was unemployed and not a plumber?

FFS, do you think his name was really "Joe" and that he was a "plumber"??????

And here's the NYT story on him that I did the fact-checking.



He is you. What Sam did is what all Conservatives do; they embellish and exaggerate.

You Conservatives practice your own itjihad...you knowingly and deliberately lie about yourselves so you can make bullshit arguments and accusations.

You're a bunch of frauds. All of you. In my work, I have not run into a single Conservative yet who hasn't lied in some way either to me, to a reporter, or just generally to anyone listening.
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So you are making the claim that you are Larry Rohter.
 
Dark Soul said:
Corrected it for you.
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No, you just changed words around like a fucking lying scumbag because that's all you're capable of doing. You simply act in bad faith because you know no other way how to act. Your entire life has been led in bad faith and people have accommodated you. But I'm not going to.

Here's what I actually wrote, that you lied about and had to change because you have nothing worthwhile to say for yourself:

LV426 said:
You claimed to have wealth and a degree, and you refuse to verify both because you think I'm going to use it against you to write bad Yelp reviews because that's what you would do.
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So why did you change what I said?

Simple, because you're a dishonest lying piece of shit who is not wealthy, college-educated, or even employed.

You lied about all of it because you wanted people to take your argument seriously on an anonymous message board.

What even is the point of you? Why do you exist? Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

Being a Conservative means lying your ass off about everything, and even changing what other people say in quotes because that way you can feel better about yourself.

You're not a good person, you're a lying sack of shit.

The only reason you won't verify any of the wild claims about yourself is because you think I'll act like you.

I really do not care what happens to you if the truth comes out.

I don't care how uncomfortable it makes you.

I don't care how much it embarrasses you.

I. Don't. Care. About. You.

Frankly, if you were so embarrassed that you got caught lying that you killed yourself, I wouldn't care.

It's not you that I care about, it's the truth.
 
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