"North Korea's Nuclear Program Quietly Advances"

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"Satellite-imagery analysis and leaked American intelligence suggest North Korea has churned out rockets and warheads as quickly as ever in the year since Kim halted weapons tests. The regime probably added several intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear proliferation analysts say, with one arms control group estimating that Kim gained enough fissile material for about six more nuclear bombs, bringing North Korea’s total to enough for between 30 to 60."

"Inspectors say Kim’s nuclear program has reached a stage where it can progress without obvious tests, making it even more difficult to monitor. They don’t need to test their ICBMs because they are satisfied with the performance,” said Hanham, who worked at the Middlebury Institute until November. “Instead, they are following Kim Jong Un’s order to mass produce nuclear weapons and the missiles need to deliver them.”

"“While the sanctions may put a squeeze on the economy, they are not harming the weapons program,” Lewis said. “There hasn’t been any significant political or economic pressure in the past year that would curtail North Korea’s weapons program.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ear-program-quietly-advances-pressuring-trump

And it was less than a year ago that Trump told Americans "everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. ," even said we can all sleep better now

Said it then, and will say it again, the "great deal maker" got played by the short, smiling, fat guy from North Korea
 
Other reports suggest North Korea bolstered its arsenal in the run-up to the Trump summit and still runs a plant believed to have produced Kim’s first ICBMs capable of reaching the U.S. homeland. They say the regime recently expanded a factory probably making engines for new, easier-to-hide solid-fuel rockets and enlarged an underground base for long-range missiles.

Skepticism remains about Kim’s denuclearization pledges, including his assertion in a New Year’s speech that he agreed in 2018 to “neither make and test nuclear weapons any longer, nor use and proliferate them.” A year ago, Kim ordered the mass production of warheads and ballistic missiles after suspending weapons tests following the launch of an ICBM capable of reaching the entire U.S. -- the last of more than 40 conducted in a 24-month span.
cant be true. they have been unable to get a missile to cross the Pacific and re-enter.
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Kim wants to be a nuclear state -after the Libyan bombing/assassination of Qadafi AFTER he gave up his nukes
it's no wonder why. :palm:

Like Trump said "well see" and we can't make him denuke , especially now that China is routinely cheating.
The question becomes is he enough of an existential threat to go to war.

It sure looked like we were headed to war when Trump became POTUS, now it's not
 
cant be true. they have been unable to get a missile to cross the Pacific and re-enter.
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Kim wants to be a nuclear state -after the Libyan bombing/assassination of Qadafi AFTER he gave up his nukes
it's no wonder why. :palm:

Like Trump said "well see" and we can't make him denuke , especially now that China is routinely cheating.
The question becomes is he enough of an existential threat to go to war.

It sure looked like we were headed to war when Trump became POTUS, now it's not
It didn’t look any different from any other time. Trump did not save us. The displays of strength have gone on as long as I can remember from N. Korea. Kim is behaving because he wishes for a relationship with S. Korea. He got what he wanted from Trump, respect, and now he doesn’t have to do anything, but quietly go about his business because Trump won’t want to concede he failed.
 
cant be true. they have been unable to get a missile to cross the Pacific and re-enter.
~~

Kim wants to be a nuclear state -after the Libyan bombing/assassination of Qadafi AFTER he gave up his nukes
it's no wonder why. :palm:

Like Trump said "well see" and we can't make him denuke , especially now that China is routinely cheating.
The question becomes is he enough of an existential threat to go to war.

It sure looked like we were headed to war when Trump became POTUS, now it's not

And we are no less heading to war since Trump has become President except in the meantime Kim got to play Trump to gain entry onto the world stage, we are no more safe than we were before the Singapore embarrassment
 
It didn’t look any different from any other time. Trump did not save us. The displays of strength have gone on as long as I can remember from N. Korea. Kim is behaving because he wishes for a relationship with S. Korea. He got what he wanted from Trump, respect, and now he doesn’t have to do anything, but quietly go about his business because Trump won’t want to concede he failed.
you have no idea what you are talking about.
Kim plays SK to pacify them,and then uses that as propaganda- if you want to call that a "relationship" ..lol
Understandably SK wants reunification as well, but NK is way too long the Hermit Kingdom.

If you don't understand the cooling of the rhetoric is a big driver of this semi-detente , you don't understand either Trump or Kim.
The personal relationship is the only thing that has cooled the testing/rhetoric,since the situation has not changed since China effectively undercuts sanctions
 
And we are no less heading to war since Trump has become President except in the meantime Kim got to play Trump to gain entry onto the world stage, we are no more safe than we were before the Singapore embarrassment
WTF are you yammering about?
When Trump took power the big warning from Obama was a bellicose NK. the situation was hot rhetoric and routine missile testing
Do you recall Kim threatening Guam? Do you hear any of this now? do you see ICBMs ?

China is still intent on using NK as a client state to stick it to the US - until China comes around
nothing can change the dynamics, but the 2 leaders personal relatonship has reduced the threat of war
 
you have no idea what you are talking about.
Kim plays SK to pacify them,and then uses that as propaganda- if you want to call that a "relationship" ..lol
Understandably SK wants reunification as well, but NK is way too long the Hermit Kingdom.

If you don't understand the cooling of the rhetoric is a big driver of this semi-detente , you don't understand either Trump or Kim.
The personal relationship is the only thing that has cooled the testing/rhetoric,since the situation has not changed since China effectively undercuts sanctions
I have as much idea of what I’m talking about as you, and I know what drives Trump, his ego.
 
I have as much idea of what I’m talking about as you, and I know what drives Trump, his ego.
so what? who cares what drives Trump? as Hillary infamously said "what difference does it make at this time?"

the fact is the situation has changed, in the what were effective sanctions have been undercut by China
which were crippling NK.
Now China decides they'd rater stick it to Trump/west which lets the pressure off.
BUT the personal relationship also keep the tensions from boiling over like when Trump took office

You would do well to stop predicating every idea you think of with TDS bias.
 
so what? who cares what drives Trump? as Hillary infamously said "what difference does it make at this time?"
the fact is the situation has changed, in the what were effective sanctions have been undercut by China
which were crippling NK.
Now China decides they'd rater stick it to Trump west.which lets the pressure off.
BUT the personal relationship also keep the tensions from boiling over like when Trump took office

You would do well to stop predicating every idea you think of with TDS bias.
The world cares, his ego causes him to act impulsively and lie a great deal. He can’t be trusted. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. Kim played him, hard.
 
The world cares, his ego causes him to act impulsively and lie a great deal. He can’t be trusted. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. Kim played him, hard.
the world is a lot less closer to war (NK/US/Japan/SK) then when Obama left office -an undeniable fact .

The rhetoric is cooled and the testing has stopped. It doesn't mean things can't change but it's sure
Kim has backed down on his constant threats / missiles. That is a very important thing.

Trump has an innate ability to find the right course, like getting out of Syria.
Too bad we were having meetings in a restaurant today instead of packing up shop.

The neocons will never own the bombing -they'l say shit like Trump "enabled" a suicide bomber etc.

Considering the neocon tract record record in Iraq/Libya/and now Syria they need to be shunned.
same with the Dems who say "we have to stay to check Iran/Russia" etc.

Trump should tell them all to got to hell
 
I have as much idea of what I’m talking about as you, and I know what drives Trump, his ego.

Exactly. Trumpanzees think that because Kim isn't testing missiles or being vocally belligerent that somehow Toadstool managed to put him in his place. They couldn't be more wrong. Hopefully other nations' intelligence communities will start pointing out what's going on. Ours is cowering because of the rancor towards them coming from the WH.

I guess the only one "safe" right now is Kim.
 
This is shocking. Who would have guessed Kim wouldn't give up his nuclear arsenal?


"Satellite-imagery analysis and leaked American intelligence suggest North Korea has churned out rockets and warheads as quickly as ever in the year since Kim halted weapons tests. The regime probably added several intercontinental ballistic missiles, nuclear proliferation analysts say, with one arms control group estimating that Kim gained enough fissile material for about six more nuclear bombs, bringing North Korea’s total to enough for between 30 to 60."

"Inspectors say Kim’s nuclear program has reached a stage where it can progress without obvious tests, making it even more difficult to monitor. They don’t need to test their ICBMs because they are satisfied with the performance,” said Hanham, who worked at the Middlebury Institute until November. “Instead, they are following Kim Jong Un’s order to mass produce nuclear weapons and the missiles need to deliver them.”

"“While the sanctions may put a squeeze on the economy, they are not harming the weapons program,” Lewis said. “There hasn’t been any significant political or economic pressure in the past year that would curtail North Korea’s weapons program.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ear-program-quietly-advances-pressuring-trump

And it was less than a year ago that Trump told Americans "everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. ," even said we can all sleep better now

Said it then, and will say it again, the "great deal maker" got played by the short, smiling, fat guy from North Korea
 
you have no idea what you are talking about.
Kim plays SK to pacify them,and then uses that as propaganda- if you want to call that a "relationship" ..lol
Understandably SK wants reunification as well, but NK is way too long the Hermit Kingdom.

If you don't understand the cooling of the rhetoric is a big driver of this semi-detente , you don't understand either Trump or Kim.
The personal relationship is the only thing that has cooled the testing/rhetoric,since the situation has not changed since China effectively undercuts sanctions

You didn't read "anatta," Kim doesn't need to test anymore, he needs to perfect what they already know which they are doing, no difference except he can do it nearly free off direct challenge from the US since Trump can't admit he got played
 
Exactly. Trumpanzees think that because Kim isn't testing missiles or being vocally belligerent that somehow Toadstool managed to put him in his place. They couldn't be more wrong. Hopefully other nations' intelligence communities will start pointing out what's going on. Ours is cowering because of the rancor towards them coming from the WH.

I guess the only one "safe" right now is Kim.
ROFL. since when has our INTEl ever "cowed" to Trump?
They routinely try to undermine any improvement in US/Russian relations and NK as well.
They stood up and shouted " we must stay in Syria" - they are innate warriors

I won't even go into the BS FBI investigations that "Trump is a Russian asset" -
but it's clear that crap started Mueller according to the NYTimes (although you probably believe that nonsense)

I have no idea what you mean by "they think Trump put Kim in his place"
The reciprocal ratcheting down by both is welcome -nobody thinks Kim was put in his place

Talking heads are already saying now we really need to stay in Syria! unbelievable
 
You didn't read "anatta," Kim doesn't need to test anymore, he needs to perfect what they already know which they are doing, no difference except he can do it nearly free off direct challenge from the US since Trump can't admit he got played
they were pretty close to a survivable ICBM that could cross the Pacific; but they still couldn't go much further then across the Sea of Japan
I specifically challenged that in my first post that somehow without testing that now they can?
 
It didn’t look any different from any other time. Trump did not save us. The displays of strength have gone on as long as I can remember from N. Korea. Kim is behaving because he wishes for a relationship with S. Korea. He got what he wanted from Trump, respect, and now he doesn’t have to do anything, but quietly go about his business because Trump won’t want to concede he failed.
I think Kim realized that trump's 'button' doesn't work.
 
It didn’t look any different from any other time. Trump did not save us. The displays of strength have gone on as long as I can remember from N. Korea. Kim is behaving because he wishes for a relationship with S. Korea. He got what he wanted from Trump, respect, and now he doesn’t have to do anything, but quietly go about his business because Trump won’t want to concede he failed.

When was the last time North Korea test fired a missile?
 
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