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Don't buy that shit for even one moment!
Get used to wild swings on this stock market, and thank the Fed for that
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Don't buy that shit for even one moment!
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He's an idiot, and that's a personal attack.
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You ought to be truly embarrassed at your ignorance, it is on a par with Desh!!
Wouldn't growth in the economy translate to growth in the markets?
Besides, you all promised it would grow the market. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin literally said “To the extent we get the tax deal done, the stock market will go up higher."
The market growing now, well after the tax cut was passed, shows that an entire year of market growth was wasted in 2018.
I don't think the stock market is the economy.
You guys do, though.
In fact, your Treasury Secretary, Mnuchin even said the Russia Tax Cut would grow the market.
Cawacko is a fraud and a phony. He doesn't know more than what he gleans off internet message boards, and seeks to justify his bias rather than admit the truth.
He thinks merely saying "the Fed" is the cure-all answer for his shitty defense of the Russia Tax Cut that;
1) Failed to grow wages $4K-$9K as promised.
2) Failed to grow the market as promised.
3) Failed to pay for itself as promised.
4) Failed to stop outsourcing and offshoring as promised.
5) Failed to generate increased bonuses and benefits as promised.
6) Failed to prevent stock buybacks as promised.
All it did was explode the deficit -which you were screeching about for 8 years during Obama- and flatline the market. You blame that flatline on the Fed, but don't really explain how it's the Fed's fault that the Russia Tax Cut boosted after-tax earnings for two quarters, then saw those earnings come crashing back down to earth, resulting in a market sell-off and no growth at all in 2018.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would raise wages by $4k-$9k. It didn't.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would grow the market. It didn't.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would generate increased economic activity that would result in more revenues. It didn't.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would lead to bigger bonuses and more benefits. It didn't.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would end outsourcing and offshoring. It didn't.
You all promised your Russia Tax Cut would not result in more stock buybacks. It did.
Nothing you've predicted or promised of your Russia Tax Cut came to pass.
So since that was a load of horseshit, everything else you say must be horseshit too.
cawacko
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The only fraud here is you claiming you went to Booth. Again, no one can go through that program and have as little understanding as you do.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, dude. You haven't explained why the Fed is to blame for the poor performance of the market in 2018 because you know the Russia Tax Cut is the reason for the market not growing at all in 2018. We're only now back to where we were before the Russia Tax Cut. A whole year of growth wasted!
Getin the ring
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are you TRYING to look stupid, or does it just come out that way?
You're so stupid, you were conned by Donald Trump.
cawacko
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We’ve spoken about the Fed for years on this board and what their policies have done to the market. I can’t help you if you aren’t able to understand it. I mean you didn’t even understand what an equity bubble is. Like I said, it’s pretty hard to have a discussion with someone with such a limited understanding.
Pro tip, instead of being a one trick pony and screaming tax cut over and over because you don’t understand anything else, go read up on the Fed and how institutional investors have reacted to Powell’s various announcements.
reagansghost
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standard Libertarian rant........"The Fed, the Fed, the Fed!!"
stuff that looneytarian horseshit wacko, and move out of MY state
No. What happens is that you say something vague and ambiguous, backed up by incomplete information designed specifically to coddle an inherent bias rather than lead you to new thinking. When you're not blaming the Fed, you're blaming Obama, or "socialism", or whatever you think depending on which day of the week it is. But what you don't blame, that you should, are the fiscal and economic policies of Conservatism that has, for the last 40 years, generated boom and bust cycles independent of Fed action. Your central belief system, that you have seemingly jettisoned because the empirical evidence doesn't deliver on the promise made of it, was that a deregulatory, low-tax enviornment would unleash economic activity that would make up for the drop in revenue from the tax cuts, with new revenues that come from increased economic activity vis-a-vis your tax policy. But we now have data from the last year showing that the opposite is actually the case.
So you make excuses for the failure of your policy when you should really just admit your policy is the failure.
Conservative economics only seem to work in theory, in a vacuum, where every variable is controlled. Then you blame other things for when that policy never works.
The Treasury Secretary that you support said in December 2017 that the Russia Tax Cut would grow the market.
In fact he said specifically that if the Russia Tax Cut wasn't passed, the market would "tumble":
Nothing about the Fed there.
So you jump to an excuse, The Fed, without answering for the fact that the Fed had nothing to do with your tax cut juicing the market for two quarters, then crashing down hard because the fundamentals of your economic theory simply aren't there.
He wants to blame The Fed for the market turmoil of the last year when the Treasury Secretary that he supports said that if the tax cut wasn't passed, the market would tumble and lose all its gains.
Well, the tax cut passed, and the market didn't gain anything for an entire year.
You're the ones who made all these fantastical claims and promises of your tax cut, posturing that your economic knowledge and beliefs would see those promises fulfilled.
Guess what? NONE OF THEM WERE FULFILLED.
So we will continue to talk about the Russia Tax Cut because you controlled all of DC, you made promises of your tax cut, you made cutting taxes central to your economic belief system, and now you refuse to answer for those failed and false promises, posturing about The Fed when The Fed had nothing to do with the market turmoil and zero growth we saw in 2018.
Adolf_Twitler
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The Stock Market and the Treasury Bond market competes for dollars.
So naturally, the Stock Market Talking Heads are always on the Federal Reserve's heals every time they have to go up on their rates.
Because a lot of the money invested in the Stock Market are on Borrowed Terms, and when the Fed rates goes up Stock Market investors cry like little babies.
Since Treasury Bond yield rates are reflected by Federal Reserve Interest Rates- in other words, when Fed Interest rates are higher- Treasury Bond yields are higher and become more attractive- when Fed interest rates are lowered- Bond yield rates are also lowered and Treasury Bond sales are not so attractive.
I think people forget how important the Treasury Bond Market is, and they forget that our entire 2O Trillion dollar debt is mostly riding on our Treasury Bond market!
So the Federal Reserve Bank has a very important role in maintaining the right interest rate to keep Treasury Bonds and Bank rates attractive!
So naturally, the Stock Market Talking Heads are always on the Federal Reserve's heals every time they have to go up on their rates.
Because a lot of the money invested in the Stock Market are on Borrowed Terms, and when the Fed rates goes up Stock Market investors cry like little babies.
Since Treasury Bond yield rates are reflected by Federal Reserve Interest Rates- in other words, when Fed Interest rates are higher- Treasury Bond yields are higher and become more attractive- when Fed interest rates are lowered- Bond yield rates are also lowered and Treasury Bond sales are not so attractive.
I think people forget how important the Treasury Bond Market is, and they forget that our entire 2O Trillion dollar debt is mostly riding on our Treasury Bond market!
So the Federal Reserve Bank has a very important role in maintaining the right interest rate to keep Treasury Bonds and Bank rates attractive!
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