The DOW was never flat for a year under Obama?

Exactly. His entire thread was started on the premise. So he is either saying he is a complete idiot that started a thread on a topic he didn't understand (which is possible, because the fucking idiot does it all the time) or he was deliberately lying (which is also possible because the LIAR does that all the time as well). Then, when busted, he pretends it was a simple error on his part (because he is a fucking idiot that thinks everyone is as dumb as Desh, Cypress, Christie and himself).

Jarod is a liar; he also has a severe case of TDS and hypocrite going on. ;)
 
That said, Trump is causing uncertainty. He is handling business in the open and in a buffoonish way. Putting opponents in corners is not likely to lead to a successful outcome. Trade discussions should be behind closed doors, with final details coming out only when ready for Congressional approval.

Yep, we wouldn't want a completely transparent President who doesn't do everything behind closed doors and who isn't a convincing liar would we? ;)
 
Only the left would consider a 30% gain .a FLAT stock market. Depends upon the talking point of the day. Only the other day they were pointing out how a vibrant market does not equal a vibrant economy. :palm:
 
No he did not you brain dead lying dumb fuck. LINK to that lie snowflake.

You must forgive the 2nd string....Brainiac, they don't get off the bench much due to their handicapped status. They don't seem to comprehend the difference between a lie and the truth. Just ask for the link the way they do....that'a shut up this welfare queen. :good4u:
 
LIE and LAME; not ONE of W's policies had anything to do with the mortgage meltdown you dishonest dumb fuck.

Maybe you can share with us just how you know this?

Better yet; maybe you morons can prove what policies W had that caused the meltdown? Moron.

You are unable, as usual, to answer a simple question. You know nothing!

I am perfectly able to answer the question you simple minded twat. NOT ONE policy W ever passed had ANYTHING to do with the mortgage implosion.

I was hoping to lead a dumb fuck like you to the obvious but you are a lazy shit on top of being a low IQ moron on steroids.


here is another one for you:

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-admin.4.18853088.html

The answer is so easy to find, and you are so fucking ignorant.

You poor dumb fuck. That is an OPINION piece and doesn't address my question; what specific policy did Bush implement that was a cause to the mortgage meltdown. The answer is NOTHING. Even your article cannot point to a single policy you poor dumb fuck.

To his credit, Bush accurately foresaw the danger posed by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and began calling as early as 2002 for greater regulation of the mortgage giants.

Here is the reason he couldn't get anything done:

What Caused the Mortgage Crisis?
https://www.thetruthaboutmortgage.com/what-caused-the-mortgage-crisis/
Who Was to Blame for the Subprime Crisis?
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/subprime-blame.asp
The Cause of the 2008 Financial Crisis
.......Why would banks make such risky loans? The answer is that the Clinton administration pressured the banks to help poor people become homeowners, a noble liberal idea. Also the Clinton Justice Department threatened banks with lawsuits and fines ($10,000 per application) for redlining (discrimination) if they did not make these loans. Also ACORN (Obama’s community service organization) was instrumental in providing borrowers and pressuring the banks to make these loans.

To allow Fannie Mae to make more loans, President Clinton also reduced Fannie Mae’s reserve requirement to 2.5%. That means it could purchase and/or guarantee $97.50 in mortgages for every $2.50 it had in equity to cover possible bad debts. If more than 2.5% of the loans go bad, the taxpayers (us) have to pay for them. That is what this bailout is all about. It is not the government paying the banks for the bad loans, it is us!!

https://www.aim.org/guest-column/the-cause-of-the-2008-financial-crisis/

Watch as Democrats attack the regulator and race hustle in the hearings in 2004 trying to get a handle on the impending crisis; yes the DEMOCRATS are the reason nothing was done folks:
Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Hearings 2004

Wrong again you ignorant dumb fuck:

What Caused the Mortgage Crisis?
https://www.thetruthaboutmortgage.com/what-caused-the-mortgage-crisis/
Who Was to Blame for the Subprime Crisis?
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/subprime-blame.asp
The Cause of the 2008 Financial Crisis
.......Why would banks make such risky loans? The answer is that the Clinton administration pressured the banks to help poor people become homeowners, a noble liberal idea. Also the Clinton Justice Department threatened banks with lawsuits and fines ($10,000 per application) for redlining (discrimination) if they did not make these loans. Also ACORN (Obama’s community service organization) was instrumental in providing borrowers and pressuring the banks to make these loans.

To allow Fannie Mae to make more loans, President Clinton also reduced Fannie Mae’s reserve requirement to 2.5%. That means it could purchase and/or guarantee $97.50 in mortgages for every $2.50 it had in equity to cover possible bad debts. If more than 2.5% of the loans go bad, the taxpayers (us) have to pay for them. That is what this bailout is all about. It is not the government paying the banks for the bad loans, it is us!!

https://www.aim.org/guest-column/the-cause-of-the-2008-financial-crisis/

Watch as Democrats attack the regulator and race hustle in the hearings in 2004 trying to get a handle on the impending crisis; yes the DEMOCRATS are the reason nothing was done folks:
Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Hearings 2004

Tell us just what specific policies of this administration led to economic growth!

"The answer is that the Clinton administration pressured the banks to help poor people become homeowners, a noble liberal idea"

That never happened you lying piece of shit. Its never been a Bush problem or a Trump problem, always someone else is to blame- right asshole?.

There you go again, dishonestly trying to deflect from your stupidity. His tax cuts helped spur a recovery from the recession that began when he took office dumb fuck.

It did happen exactly that way. If you watched the video, which you didn't, you can watch the assholes on the Democrat side race hustle the regulator they hired to oversee them.

I couldn't give a flying fuck what you post, its a complete lie. You have posted the same lying shit for years.

We were arguing the Bush presidency you poor ignorant dumb fuck. This is why people cannot argue with morons like you, you can't even remember your last whiny, pathetic lie filled post. Moron.

My post referred to Trump, sweetie pie

You aren't even a very good liar you poor pathetic dumb fuck.
 

PostmortemPussy loves making stuff up but for him to claim that in his fifth year in office it actually made it back to where it was when he got elected and actually believe it just tells you volumes about his cognitive deficiency.

The truth is the S&P 500 was at 797 on January 1st, 2009 and 1569 on January 1st 2013 so President Obama's stock market almost doubled during that time.
So did my 401k. I'm so glad Obama was President during that time.

God Bless President Obama.

obama-laughing-700.jpg
 
Just google GDP by quarter.

BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
Just google GDP by quarter?
You really think the Trumptards will be able to comprehend that?
I mean you have to be a fucking moron to vote for a fucking moron so I doubt the Trumptards will know how to do that.

After all:

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Cut the bull shit. The final Bush budget ended with a national debt of 12 trillion, when Obama left office it was close to 19 trillion.

if you are counting the 2009 spending as the "final Bush budget" then you have to count 2016 as the "final Obama budget".......that means he was over $20.5 at the end....
 
PostmortemPussy loves making stuff up but for him to claim that in his fifth year in office it actually made it back to where it was when he got elected and actually believe it just tells you volumes about his cognitive deficiency.

The truth is the S&P 500 was at 797 on January 1st, 2009 and 1569 on January 1st 2013 so President Obama's stock market almost doubled during that time.
So did my 401k. I'm so glad Obama was President during that time.

God Bless President Obama.

The Market was closed on January 1st you lying dumbfuck. On January 2nd the S&P closed at 931.80. On January 2nd 2013 it closed at 1,462.42. It still had not recovered from it's previous high before Obamunism of 1,520.17. Therefore, NO gain by that date. Still running at a loss. During the entire Obama reign of error, the S&P gained a mere 737.66 from its previous high. An average annual gain of 92.20 points.

Trump's inauguration the S & P closed at 2,257.83. Currently it closed at 2796.11. A Gain of 538.28 or 269.14 annually. You must be worshiping the ground Trump walks on if you think Obama was great.

You poor dumb selfish mother fucker. It's all about you eh? Typical liberal. You don't give two shits about how poor everyone else is doing as long as the FAT cats on Wall Street make more money.
 
Link us up to where you got that data.

Since Obama had at least 10 quarters of 3%++ GDP growth, I wonder who the ignorant dumb fuck really is, hand job

No he did not you brain dead lying dumb fuck. LINK to that lie snowflake.

Just google GDP by quarter.

You made the false and moronic claim; you back it up asshat. PS, you won't find anything supporting your claim you ignorant dumb fuck.
 
Just google GDP by quarter.

We don't live by quarters snowflake. We live by annual growth.

2009 $14.449 $15.209 -2.5% Stimulus Act.
2010 $14.992 $15.599 2.6% ACA. Dodd-Frank.
2011 $15.543 $15.841 1.6% Japan earthquake.
2012 $16.197 $16.197 2.2% Fiscal cliff.
2013 $16.785 $16.495 1.8% Sequestration.
2014 $17.522 $16.900 2.5% QE ends.
2015 $18.219 $17.387 2.9% TPP. Iran deal.
2016 $18.707 $17.659 1.6%

Average annual growth rate = 1.5875%

https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

Trump so far = 3.5%
 
Obamunism in Debt:

2009 $11,910 83%
2010 $13,562 90% Obama Stimulus Act cost $400 billion.
2011 $14,790 95%
2012 $16,066 99%
2013 $16,738 99%
2014 $17,824 101% War cost $309 billion. QE ended. Strong dollar hurt exports.
2015 $18,151 99%
2016 $19,573 104%
 
Just google GDP by quarter.

2009 01 -4.42
2009 02 -1.5747
2009 03 1.4644
2009 04 4.4665

2009 Average = -.0080%

2010 01 1.5480%
2010 02 3.7394%
2010 03 2.9816%
2010 04 2.0228%

2010 Average = 1.2865%

2011 01 -.9583%
2011 02 2.8907%
2011 03 -.1111%
2011 04 4.7184%

2011 Average = 1.0018%

2012 01 3.1689%
2012 02 1.7319%
2012 03 0.5409%
2012 04 0.4563%

2012 Average = 1.4745%

2013 01 3.5900%
2013 02 0.4945%
2013 03 3.1707%
2013 04 3.2314%

2013 Average = 1.8717%

2014 01 -1·0033%
2014 02 5.1106%
2014 03 4.9240%
2014 04 1.9008%

2014 Average = 2.7256%

2015 01 3.3317%
2015 02 3.3395%
2015 03 0.9639%
2015 04 0.4002%

2015 Average = 1.0044%

2016 01 1.5476%
2016 02 2.2817%
2016 03 1.9254%
2016 04 1.7618%

2016 Average = 1.8791%

Obamunism Average = 1.4045%

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/var/rgdp-qtrchg
 
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