How would you balance the budget?

I would add to that anyone capable of working that does not and pay taxes, starves. Fuck em.

That's how it is in many countries, maybe most. I found that to be true in SE Asia and South America. If it comes down to life or death almost everybody will work. Even the illiterates in Vietnam grow vegetables on the banks of the Saigon River.
 
Do you think you will be employable when you are in your 80's?

You might fall off of your tricycle tomorrow and sustain a permanent brain injury as Owl did. What would it matter if you received Medicaid or some form of welfare? Either way, you would cost society big bucks.

Owl has a brain injury? That explains a lot

That is why you have disability insurance. If you took every nickel you had confiscated for socialist insecurity and invested it on your own you would have had more than enough to retire and you could leave it to your heirs. But you signed away your freedom. You are a slave to the gobblement
 
Do you think you will be employable when you are in your 80's?

You might fall off of your tricycle tomorrow and sustain a permanent brain injury as Owl did. What would it matter if you received Medicaid or some form of welfare? Either way, you would cost society big bucks.

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You mean when I still can't collect it and would have been better off stuffing all that money in a mattress or a Money Market? Yeah, I'll wish I could have opted out at 18.

What makes you think that you will never collect it? If we can print funny money for everything else, we can surely print it to take care of the elderly and ill.
 
Owl has a brain injury? That explains a lot

That is why you have disability insurance. If you took every nickel you had confiscated for socialist insecurity and invested it on your own you would have had more than enough to retire and you could leave it to your heirs. But you signed away your freedom. You are a slave to the gobblement

Do both. If you can manage it.
 
But the left have never worried about alienation and it's always been about the rich paying more, so why not expect it from the movie industry and stars?

Alienation should always be a consideration. But, when it comes to most rich people, who rely on a large and relatively difficult-to-move workforce, it's less of a consideration, than when it comes to movie productions, which have small, ad-hoc workforces (recruited for several months for each new project), and so can pretty easily be moved from country to country to take advantage of tax considerations.
 
You mean when I still can't collect it and would have been better off stuffing all that money in a mattress or a Money Market? Yeah, I'll wish I could have opted out at 18.


and just like Ayn Rand you will collect it after railing against it your whole life

just like her you say that shit to make your self feel smart


try feeling some compassion once in awhile


your life wont be sooo bleek
 
I am very adept at numbers I just choose not to play your game.

I've seen no evidence you can do even basic math. It's conceivable, I suppose, that you're just extremely lazy -- or extremely dishonest, in that you know the numbers will blow up your argument, so you choose not to present them. But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it isn't a moral failing, and you're merely stupid.
 
https://www.aarp.org/money/investing/info-2018/seniors-before-social-security.html



How Did Older Americans Get By Before Social Security?
To appreciate what Social Security provides for older Americans, it’s useful to look back at the ways seniors built a nest egg — or, more accurately, how most of them didn’t — before the program was put in place in 1935 to help the country recover from the Great Depression.
So how did older Americans get by? Website Gobankingrates.com compiled a list of 16 things that served as a safety net for seniors before Social Security, though “safety net” doesn’t really apply to many of the options, which include panhandling, moving into almshouses or poorhouses, or simply dying impoverished, which was the fate that befell 1 in every 2 older Americans in the years after the 1929 stock market crash.
Among the most “reliable” resources were pension plans, though as of 1932 only 15 percent of American companies offered employees such an option. State pensions were available for the lucky few government workers; by 1935 about 3 percent of elderly Americans were receiving those benefits. And in the years after the Civil War, those injured during military service received pensions. By the early years of the 20th century, less than 1 percent of the U.S. population was still benefiting from those.
Annuities gained popularity in the years before the Depression, as the practice of large, extended families providing a safety net for elder members diminished. And savings accounts were useful to some, too, though banks weren’t as trusted or as regulated. Thus, the old cliche of stuffing money into a mattress wasn’t an outlandish or impractical notion — often, it was the most practical option, at least for the few seniors who had cash on hand. Some seniors relied on help from church congregations and neighbors to stay afloat. A few had investments that survived the crash.
It’s safe to say that Social Security was one of the most important federal programs for America’s older workers, and recent studies provide confirmation: A 2016 report by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities showed that Social Security benefits lifted more than 22 million Americans above the poverty line the previous year. The study estimated that without Social Security, more than 40 percent of seniors in American would be living at or below the poverty level.
 
The good news is that spending bills originate in the House of Representatives so I look forward to the balanced budget Nancy Pelosi delivers

A Presidents budget is irrelevant

your fucks held the entire government and didn't


so they lie to you and you suck it the fuck up anyway huh
 
I've seen no evidence you can do even basic math.

:lolup:Thinks she can do math. :laugh:

It's conceivable, I suppose, that you're I'm just extremely lazy -- or extremely dishonest, in that you I know the numbers will blow up your my argument, so you I choose not to present them. But I'm giving you myself the benefit of the doubt that it isn't a moral failing, and you're I'm merely stupid.

Fixed. The notion that anyone who promotes leftist ideology isn't a moron requires the willing suspension of disbelief.
 
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