Question for JPP lefties

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Darth Omar

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To my mind, allowing 16 year olds to vote is one of the most brazen attempts at vote grabbing I’ve ever seen. All politicians would need to do is show them shiny things and they’d have the 16 year old bloc locked down tight.

But how many JPP lefties think this is a good idea? And what’s the justification for it?

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Darth Beto Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1106233487621795840

To my mind, allowing 16 year olds to vote is one of the most brazen attempts at vote grabbing I’ve ever seen. All politicians would need to do is show them shiny things and they’d have the 16 year old bloc locked down tight.

But how many JPP lefties think this is a good idea? And what’s the justification for it?

Winning the next election doesn’t count.
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I think it's a good idea. The justification is that at 16, people are generally more mature than the boomers who are still voting.
 
terrivle idea. I was political since a kid -but at 16 I was like Watermark looking at the Little Red Book for "answers"
You need some depth of experience to understand more then sound bite shit
 
noise said:
terrivle idea. I was political since a kid -but at 16 I was like Watermark looking at the Little Red Book for "answers"
You need some depth of experience to understand more then sound bite shit
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I believe that age 25 would be about right. By then, most voters realize that there is no such thing as free stuff.
 
Earl said:
I believe that age 25 would be about right. By then, most voters realize that there is no such thing as free stuff.
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Everyone should have to produce a pay stub showing they pay employment taxes or proof of being retired ( they already worked) to vote.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1106233487621795840

To my mind, allowing 16 year olds to vote is one of the most brazen attempts at vote grabbing I’ve ever seen. All politicians would need to do is show them shiny things and they’d have the 16 year old bloc locked down tight.

But how many JPP lefties think this is a good idea? And what’s the justification for it?

Winning the next election doesn’t count.
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No, I don't think it's a good idea. The voting age is fine where it is.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Beto Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1106233487621795840

To my mind, allowing 16 year olds to vote is one of the most brazen attempts at vote grabbing I’ve ever seen. All politicians would need to do is show them shiny things and they’d have the 16 year old bloc locked down tight.

But how many JPP lefties think this is a good idea? And what’s the justification for it?

Winning the next election doesn’t count.
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I don't think it is a good idea. I agree it looks like a vote-grab.

But I would favor automatic voter registration associated with getting a Social Security card. That makes more sense to me. Our system of requiring citizens to register to vote adds an unnecessary layer of complexity which results in fewer people voting. This hurts our democracy, makes it weaker and more vulnerable to big money power interests.

I believe people would be more patriotic and responsible citizens if all adult citizens over age 18 are automatically registered to vote. When people vote, they take more national responsibility. Also, there should be public PR campaigns designed to shame those apathetic people who do not become politically engaged, well informed or vote. Our system of self-government, government which derives it's power from the consent of the governed, is designed to function only with the active participation of the populace.

Couple that with a mandatory Ranked Choice Voting system in every State, and we would have far more effective government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Right now we seem to have a government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich. That is too exclusive and wrong. It is destined to fail and not be longstanding. It's shallow instant gratification for the greedy.
 
Earl said:
I believe that age 25 would be about right. By then, most voters realize that there is no such thing as free stuff.
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It balances out, IMO.
The more free stuff promised or even given, the more folks like us that actually work resent it.
 
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