Mueller did not exonerate trump on obstruction

[Superfreak]

"trump was given the questions and responded", how convenient. You mean his lawyers responded. trump was not grilled in person, like Hillary was. We all know why, because his lawyers knew trump would get angry and incriminate himself when the questions were pointed.

If you think thousands of pages info collected over Mueller's two-year investigation can be condensed into a four-page report, you are naive beyond belief. You're a hack and a moron.

Re: the "paperwork"... "when one of Secretary Clinton’s original personal servers was decommissioned in 2013, the e-mail software was removed. Doing that didn’t remove the e-mail content, but it was like removing the frame from a huge finished jigsaw puzzle and dumping the pieces on the floor. The effect was that millions of e-mail fragments end up unsorted in the server’s unused—or “slack”—space. We searched through all of it to see what was there, and what parts of the puzzle could be put back together."

Hey Moron... YOU are claiming it was Trumps lawyers that answered. Do you have evidence or are you pulling that from your ass? Yeah, thought so. Of course he had his lawyers present, he would be stupid not to. Also, given the previous actions by Mueller of catching people in 'lies', which in some cases were simply bad memory, yeah, also smart to address the questions in writing. It is still answering the questions.

Hey idiot... it was not thousands of pages Barr condensed. He also has not released everything he intends to release. But you are too fucking ignorant to comprehend that. He addressed the two primary accusations against Trump... collusion/conspiracy and obstruction. He covered the basic findings. But you are like every other nutjob that refuses to admit you were duped. Also, he summarized a 300 page report with four... not thousands. Mueller's team condensed everything they had into the 300 pages.

Also moron, NO, Barr didn't do anything wrong. He knew morons like you would throw fits if he'd taken a few weeks to do the job he was supposed to do. So he released the info on the two big issues. He is supposed to redact the info that is classified. He is supposed to redact info regarding people that were not charged. He knows whatever he gives to Congress is going to get 'leaked'.

Perhaps you and the other idiots on the left will actually stop encouraging the AG to break the fucking law like your masters in DC are doing?

 

[Superfreak]

You RWNJs should be just as eager to see the report as we are. Frankly, I don't understand why this is something to argue about. trump has you convinced that the report completely exonerates him and the way to know that is to see the report, with any sensitive info redacted.

IMO you guys know there is going to be plenty of info in that report that doesn't paint trump and his toadies in the best light, and that's why you're so defensive about it.

You truly are an idiot. Nowhere have I stated that I didn't want to see more. But you are desperate, so you create a straw man. I have already stated the report DOES exonerate Trump from the idiotic claim of collusion/conspiracy. The obstruction issue is as Barr stated, Mueller did not find sufficient evidence on it for a charge. In large part this is due to Mueller's comment on intent. If there was no collusion, then obstruction becomes more blurry. Which is what Barr stated.

But you want the details on peoples lives that might have 'not been in the best light'. You don't care that those details didn't bring charges. You just want more dirt to toss around.

That is why the Dems want to see 'all of Mueller's info. They supposedly trusted him to run the investigation, but now that the outcome is not what they desired, they are going to 'investigate further'. It will never end with you morons.

 

[Superfreak]

Good god you're stupid. Post 199: "trump should have no problem showing the report to the public with minimal redactions."

No christie, you are the idiot. AGAIN... he will put forth what he is LEGALLY ALLOWED to put forth. You keep saying stupid shit like 'minimal redactions'.

That is subjective. What is minimal Christie?

He will release what he is allowed to release.

 

[Earl]

"while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."

If he didn't commit a crime...

No further recommendations for indictments.


President Trump should sue.

 

[Getin the ring]

Starting with Pencil neck Schiff, you pick them off one at a time, in good time.

you don't conspire to oust a duly elected American President and not eventually pay the price.

Patience grasshopper

 

[christiefan915]

Hey Moron... YOU are claiming it was Trumps lawyers that answered. Do you have evidence or are you pulling that from your ass? Yeah, thought so. Of course he had his lawyers present, he would be stupid not to. Also, given the previous actions by Mueller of catching people in 'lies', which in some cases were simply bad memory, yeah, also smart to address the questions in writing. It is still answering the questions.

Politico: Trump lawyers working on answers to Mueller's Russia conspiracy questions. Of course they responded, every one of them was afraid trump would fall into a perjury trap and with his big mouth that was practically a given. Written answers are a cop out. People testify in person so not only their responses can be weighed but their affect, temper and body language can also be studied. We all know that there's no way on god's green earth that trump could sit still and answer questions for hours, his train of thought would jump the tracks after 10 minutes.

Hey idiot... it was not thousands of pages Barr condensed. He also has not released everything he intends to release. But you are too fucking ignorant to comprehend that. He addressed the two primary accusations against Trump... collusion/conspiracy and obstruction. He covered the basic findings. But you are like every other nutjob that refuses to admit you were duped. Also, he summarized a 300 page report with four... not thousands. Mueller's team condensed everything they had into the 300 pages.

*incredulous look* If anybody's been duped it's the RWNJs, not liberals. You clowns have been criticizing us for wanting more than four pages since the day they came out. Did you ever ask yourself why Barr didn't take the time to go through all the material, redact the sensitive stuff and then release the report? Your claim that *we* would have fits if we didn't see something was pulled right out of your nether regions. We all waited almost two years for this and another few weeks wouldn't have mattered. We don't even know if the investigation was actually completed or if Barr ordered it to end. If RWNJs hoped the four pages would silence anybody they were sadly mistaken. Now I, for one, am really suspicious of what Barr's going to do with the report before release.

Perhaps you and the other idiots on the left will actually stop encouraging the AG to break the fucking law like your masters in DC are doing?

Nobody's asking for the law to be broken, numb nuts. We just want to see the full report with sensitive info redacted, and that means no more summaries. You and the other idiots seem to forget that these people are working for us and if something fishy's going on we have the right to know it.

 

[christiefan915]

You truly are an idiot. Nowhere have I stated that I didn't want to see more. But you are desperate, so you create a straw man. I have already stated the report DOES exonerate Trump from the idiotic claim of collusion/conspiracy. The obstruction issue is as Barr stated, Mueller did not find sufficient evidence on it for a charge. In large part this is due to Mueller's comment on intent. If there was no collusion, then obstruction becomes more blurry. Which is what Barr stated.

But you want the details on peoples lives that might have 'not been in the best light'. You don't care that those details didn't bring charges. You just want more dirt to toss around.

That is why the Dems want to see 'all of Mueller's info. They supposedly trusted him to run the investigation, but now that the outcome is not what they desired, they are going to 'investigate further'. It will never end with you morons.

You truly are despicable. You stated the report DOES exonerate trump from collusion, so what? You're nobody. Barr sent a long unsolicited memo on June 8, 2018 to Rosenstein stating that there was no obstruction of justice yet you want us to think Barr is trustworthy. Barr went into this with the theory that trump was innocent of obstruction and I want to know how he decided that, because it sure looks like he fixed the facts around his presumption. This is what was said about Barr's memo of 2018:

"the first huge and striking problem with Barr’s memo is that he unjustifiably makes countless assumptions about what Mueller is doing; about Mueller’s purported “theory” of presidential criminal culpability; about Mueller’s “sweeping” and “all-encompassing” “interpretation” of the statute and Constitution; about “Mueller’s core premise”; . . . about “unprecedented” steps Mueller is proposing to take; about “Mueller’s proposed regime”; about “Mueller’s immediate target”; about Mueller’s presumed failure to “provide a standard” for what constitutes “corruptly” trying to impede proceedings; about Mueller’s “demands” that the President submit to interrogation; etc.

To read this memo, you’d think Barr were replying to a legal brief that Mueller had submitted in support of a prosecution of the President for obstruction of a federal proceeding. Yet as Barr concedes at the outset, he was “in the dark about many facts.”

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bill-barrs-very-strange-memo-obstruction-justice

 

[christiefan915]

No christie, you are the idiot. AGAIN... he will put forth what he is LEGALLY ALLOWED to put forth. You keep saying stupid shit like 'minimal redactions'.

That is subjective. What is minimal Christie?

He will release what he is allowed to release.

Again stupid... this is not a national security issue so I don't know exactly what they have to redact, and neither do you. Minimal means the least amount possible without giving away sensitive info.

And again, I DO NOT TRUST Barr. He already decided in his mind close to a year ago that there was no obstruction and that memo is on the record.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Politico: Trump lawyers working on answers to Mueller's Russia conspiracy questions. Of course they responded, every one of them was afraid trump would fall into a perjury trap and with his big mouth that was practically a given. Written answers are a cop out. People testify in person so not only their responses can be weighed but their affect, temper and body language can also be studied. We all know that there's no way on god's green earth that trump could sit still and answer questions for hours, his train of thought would jump the tracks after 10 minutes.



*incredulous look* If anybody's been duped it's the RWNJs, not liberals. You clowns have been criticizing us for wanting more than four pages since the day they came out. Did you ever ask yourself why Barr didn't take the time to go through all the material, redact the sensitive stuff and then release the report? Your claim that *we* would have fits if we didn't see something was pulled right out of your nether regions. We all waited almost two years for this and another few weeks wouldn't have mattered. We don't even know if the investigation was actually completed or if Barr ordered it to end. If RWNJs hoped the four pages would silence anybody they were sadly mistaken. Now I, for one, am really suspicious of what Barr's going to do with the report before release.



Nobody's asking for the law to be broken, numb nuts. We just want to see the full report with sensitive info redacted, and that means no more summaries. You and the other idiots seem to forget that these people are working for us and if something fishy's going on we have the right to know it.

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[USFREEDOM911]

You truly are despicable. You stated the report DOES exonerate trump from collusion, so what? You're nobody. Barr sent a long unsolicited memo on June 8, 2018 to Rosenstein stating that there was no obstruction of justice yet you want us to think Barr is trustworthy. Barr went into this with the theory that trump was innocent of obstruction and I want to know how he decided that, because it sure looks like he fixed the facts around his presumption. This is what was said about Barr's memo of 2018:

"the first huge and striking problem with Barr’s memo is that he unjustifiably makes countless assumptions about what Mueller is doing; about Mueller’s purported “theory” of presidential criminal culpability; about Mueller’s “sweeping” and “all-encompassing” “interpretation” of the statute and Constitution; about “Mueller’s core premise”; . . . about “unprecedented” steps Mueller is proposing to take; about “Mueller’s proposed regime”; about “Mueller’s immediate target”; about Mueller’s presumed failure to “provide a standard” for what constitutes “corruptly” trying to impede proceedings; about Mueller’s “demands” that the President submit to interrogation; etc.

To read this memo, you’d think Barr were replying to a legal brief that Mueller had submitted in support of a prosecution of the President for obstruction of a federal proceeding. Yet as Barr concedes at the outset, he was “in the dark about many facts.”

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bill-barrs-very-strange-memo-obstruction-justice

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[USFREEDOM911]

Again stupid... this is not a national security issue so I don't know exactly what they have to redact, and neither do you. Minimal means the least amount possible without giving away sensitive info.

And again, I DO NOT TRUST Barr. He already decided in his mind close to a year ago that there was no obstruction and that memo is on the record.

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[reagansghost]

we don't know how Mueller ruled on any issue yet, haven't seen his report

 

[Superfreak]

Politico: Trump lawyers working on answers to Mueller's Russia conspiracy questions. Of course they responded, every one of them was afraid trump would fall into a perjury trap and with his big mouth that was practically a given. Written answers are a cop out. People testify in person so not only their responses can be weighed but their affect, temper and body language can also be studied. We all know that there's no way on god's green earth that trump could sit still and answer questions for hours, his train of thought would jump the tracks after 10 minutes.



*incredulous look* If anybody's been duped it's the RWNJs, not liberals. You clowns have been criticizing us for wanting more than four pages since the day they came out. Did you ever ask yourself why Barr didn't take the time to go through all the material, redact the sensitive stuff and then release the report? Your claim that *we* would have fits if we didn't see something was pulled right out of your nether regions. We all waited almost two years for this and another few weeks wouldn't have mattered. We don't even know if the investigation was actually completed or if Barr ordered it to end. If RWNJs hoped the four pages would silence anybody they were sadly mistaken. Now I, for one, am really suspicious of what Barr's going to do with the report before release.



Nobody's asking for the law to be broken, numb nuts. We just want to see the full report with sensitive info redacted, and that means no more summaries. You and the other idiots seem to forget that these people are working for us and if something fishy's going on we have the right to know it.

Wrong as usual. Again, morons like you would have indeed immediately started the 'cover up' chant had Barr not released anything for a couple of weeks. Again, idiots on the left are indeed saying they want the full unredacted report AND everything that Mueller collected. So yes, they are indeed asking for the law to be broken.

No, I am not shocked Barr released a quick release. The Mueller report had summary pages of the varying sections of the report. The conclusions on the two biggest issues would have been easy to relay to the people. Which is what Barr did.

You claim all you want is the full report redacted of sensitive info, but then are bitching and moaning about Barr when he has stated he will provide exactly what you say you want. That makes you a fucking moron.

 

[Superfreak]

You truly are despicable. You stated the report DOES exonerate trump from collusion, so what? You're nobody. Barr sent a long unsolicited memo on June 8, 2018 to Rosenstein stating that there was no obstruction of justice yet you want us to think Barr is trustworthy. Barr went into this with the theory that trump was innocent of obstruction and I want to know how he decided that, because it sure looks like he fixed the facts around his presumption. This is what was said about Barr's memo of 2018:

"the first huge and striking problem with Barr’s memo is that he unjustifiably makes countless assumptions about what Mueller is doing; about Mueller’s purported “theory” of presidential criminal culpability; about Mueller’s “sweeping” and “all-encompassing” “interpretation” of the statute and Constitution; about “Mueller’s core premise”; . . . about “unprecedented” steps Mueller is proposing to take; about “Mueller’s proposed regime”; about “Mueller’s immediate target”; about Mueller’s presumed failure to “provide a standard” for what constitutes “corruptly” trying to impede proceedings; about Mueller’s “demands” that the President submit to interrogation; etc.

To read this memo, you’d think Barr were replying to a legal brief that Mueller had submitted in support of a prosecution of the President for obstruction of a federal proceeding. Yet as Barr concedes at the outset, he was “in the dark about many facts.”

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bill-barrs-very-strange-memo-obstruction-justice

Hey idiot... MUELLER STATED THERE WAS NO COLLUSION. Not me. MUELLER. So yes, it exonerated him on that. It did not exonerate him on obstruction.

 

[Superfreak]

Again stupid... this is not a national security issue so I don't know exactly what they have to redact, and neither do you. Minimal means the least amount possible without giving away sensitive info.

And again, I DO NOT TRUST Barr. He already decided in his mind close to a year ago that there was no obstruction and that memo is on the record.

Hey moron, try to comprehend what is written. I stated he has to legally redact certain info. It does NOT have to be a 'national security issue'. He will release what he is allowed to release.

Yeah, it was pretty fucking obvious from the start to anyone willing to think critically that there was no collusion, thus the obstruction charge was nonsense, especially when the investigation continued.

Do you have any evidence that Trump tried to stop Mueller? No, you do not.

 

[Superfreak]

we don't know how Mueller ruled on any issue yet, haven't seen his report

Actually, we do. you see, the lack of further indictments tells us his 'ruling'.

 

[Earl]

A/G Barr stated that he believed that there was “spying” on President Trump.

Dark rain coming for those radical, Democrat Socialists and traitors who abused their government positions to spy on an opposition candidate.

 

[PoliTalker]

Bannon said Trump would probably go down on financials.

Makes total sense.

 

[christiefan915]

Wrong as usual. Again, morons like you would have indeed immediately started the 'cover up' chant had Barr not released anything for a couple of weeks. Again, idiots on the left are indeed saying they want the full unredacted report AND everything that Mueller collected. So yes, they are indeed asking for the law to be broken.

No, I am not shocked Barr released a quick release. The Mueller report had summary pages of the varying sections of the report. The conclusions on the two biggest issues would have been easy to relay to the people. Which is what Barr did.

You claim all you want is the full report redacted of sensitive info, but then are bitching and moaning about Barr when he has stated he will provide exactly what you say you want. That makes you a fucking moron.

I'm waiting to see what Barr releases before I bitch and moan, imbecile. And I don't have high hopes for his honesty after he decided back on June 8, 2018, that there was no obstruction of justice.

Damn, you're stupid.

 

[christiefan915]

Hey moron, try to comprehend what is written. I stated he has to legally redact certain info. It does NOT have to be a 'national security issue'. He will release what he is allowed to release.

Yeah, it was pretty fucking obvious from the start to anyone willing to think critically that there was no collusion, thus the obstruction charge was nonsense, especially when the investigation continued.

Do you have any evidence that Trump tried to stop Mueller? No, you do not.

trump hoped to stop "the Russia thing" when he fired Comey, jackwagon. If that doesn't raise any suspicion it tells me you're just a toady; if there was nothing to worry about then nobody should have been fired. trump has some misplaced idea of what he can and can't do as president, and his stupid move is what started the Mueller investigation. He has nobody to blame but himself.