Wahhhhh, My Christian values have been attacked.

I don’t give a fuck about “Christian” bakers. But they are not running a “Christian” bakery, are they? They are running a secular business with secular business rules. Among thise, moron, are non-discriminatory and public accommodation LAWS.

Want to run a “Christian” bakery? Fine. File as a religious entity and you can discriminate all you want. But don’t feed us your bullshit about “sins” unless you’re prepared to deal with all of them.

I’m a Christian but not a baker but I would bake gay wedding cakes if I was a baker lol.

Personally, I see no problem with it. My problem is with using the force of government to enforce a particular version of cultural mores regarding sexual coupling. Apparently, you’re no libertarian or maybe I’m more of a libertarian than you but in a free society the Christian bakers are *free* to refrain from baking gay cakes.

The only time discrimination should come into play is when they *refuse to serve* gay couples. I’m sure gays can walk into the Christian bakers shop and are *free* to buy anything they want. But gays shouldn’t be able to threaten Christian bakers with lawsuits in order to *compel* them to act contrary to their deeply help religious principles. Their rights stop where the baker’s religious principles start.

I also know a slippery slope when I see one. In the UK you can get into trouble for ‘deadnaming’ transgenders in public. That bullshit madness is precisely the same sort of thing and I’m for heading it off at the pass. You idiots already have grown men pissing in the same john as young girls.

It’s time to put a stop to it.
 
Mike Pence is a big huge Pussy.

He promotes prejudice against gay people and hides behind some pretend Christian idea that homosexuality is evil.

Then when barely called on it he cries. You don't get to use your religion as both a sword and shield. You cant attack someone based on your "religious beliefs", then cry if they respond.

Mayor Pete did not even attack him, he just pointed out that there was nothing wrong with his marriage and Pence should look to his creator not him.

Disgusting on Pence's part.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/poli...tigieg-william-barr-julian-assange/index.html

This is the ONLY reason the republicunts are not booting drumpf out. They KNOW Pence is a LOT WORSE than drumpf. The LGBTQI republiKKKans will shit themselves if Pence was made President. They'll be rounded up, tattooed and sent to the concentration camps that drumpf has created.
 
nice try goyim, Leviticus is from the tanakh (hebrew bible) which was given to the Jews and only pertains to Jews, same as the ten commandments

The very words of the ten commandments clearly tells us that the commandments were for the Jewish people ONLY!


God never brought the goyim or their ancestors out of Egypt! Ex 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery."
The Lord has not given the goyim the promised land of Canaan! Ex 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the Lord your God gives you"
Since the Sabbath is a sign between God and fleshly Israel, there is nothing requiring non-Jews to keep it! (Ex. 31:13,17; Ezek. 20:12,

If it was intended for all mankind, then why specifically say "strangers within your gates". Obviously the Goyim (strangers) were never required at any point in earth history to keep the Sabbath or the ten commandments

all the goyim should follow is The 7 Noahide Laws

https://www.chabad.org/library/arti...ish/The-7-Noahide-Laws-Universal-Morality.htm

but instead they worship a dead man god:palm:

Wrong, pende*o.
 
I’m a Christian but not a baker but I would bake gay wedding cakes if I was a baker lol.

Personally, I see no problem with it. My problem is with using the force of government to enforce a particular version of cultural mores regarding sexual coupling. Apparently, you’re no libertarian or maybe I’m more of a libertarian than you but in a free society the Christian bakers are *free* to refrain from baking gay cakes.

The only time discrimination should come into play is when they *refuse to serve* gay couples. I’m sure gays can walk into the Christian bakers shop and are *free* to buy anything they want. But gays shouldn’t be able to threaten Christian bakers with lawsuits in order to *compel* them to act contrary to their deeply help religious principles. Their rights stop where the baker’s religious principles start.

I also know a slippery slope when I see one. In the UK you can get into trouble for ‘deadnaming’ transgenders in public. That bullshit madness is precisely the same sort of thing and I’m for heading it off at the pass. You idiots already have grown men pissing in the same john as young girls.

It’s time to put a stop to it.

Bravo...high five.
 
Post chapter and verse where Jesus condemns gay people!
Leviticus 18:22 "You must not lie with a man as with a woman ..."
biblehub.com/leviticus/18-22.htm

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

This is not some pretend Christian idea that homosexuality is evil.

It's real.

This Christian belief is protected by the Religion Clause of the First Amendment.
 
All politicians lie about what Christianity teaches. Americans won't elect an Atheist, so Buttigieg and Pence both have to lie about being religious, and pretend their religion says what they say.

Should he be president? Well, I don't like him cozying up to Black Lives Matter, but other than that, he's not bad. I agree with him on most issues and he seems honest for a politician.

you too are honest about your stupidity........you are both wrong on all issues......
 
The very words of the ten commandments clearly tells us that the commandments were for the Jewish people ONLY!

besides not believing in YHWH you are ignorant of your own texts.....
Deut 4
5 See, I have taught you decrees and laws as the Lord my God commanded me, so that you may follow them in the land you are entering to take possession of it. 6 Observe them carefully, for this will show your wisdom and understanding to the nations, who will hear about all these decrees and say, “Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.” 7 What other nation is so great as to have their gods near them the way the Lord our God is near us whenever we pray to him? 8 And what other nation is so great as to have such righteous decrees and laws as this body of laws I am setting before you today?
 

"If thou shalt say in thine heart, These nations are more than I; how can I dispossess them? 18Thou shalt not be afraid of them: but shalt well remember what the LORD thy God did unto Pharaoh, and unto all Egypt; 19The great temptations which thine eyes saw, and the signs, and the wonders, and the mighty hand, and the stretched out arm, whereby the LORD thy God brought thee out: so shall the LORD thy God do unto all the people of whom thou art afraid. 20Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed. 21Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible. 22And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee by little and little: thou mayest not consume them at once, lest the beasts of the field increase upon thee. 23But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed. 24And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them. 25The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. 26Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing."
 
The goyim worship a virgin born man-god, a god that is intrinsically more than one god.

The Torah in specific and the Tanakh in general rejects such heinous idolatrous beliefs.
 
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Garud is just pissy because his idol Avenatti was shown to be the corrupt piece of shit we have said he was all along. Now Garud's idol is going to jail for stealing from a disabled man and other clients. poor lil Garud.

Changing the subject? You're so sensitive about trump and Pence getting criticized for their hypocrisy.
 
I wonder what Ilhan Omar views are on homosexuality or female genital mutilation, after all she comes from Somalia where FGM is rife, doesn't she? What about wife beating, apostasy, marital rape or anti-Semitism?

Ilhan Omar’s Islam shows the myth of multiculturalism

Anti-Semitism, Female Genital Mutilation, Ilhan Omar, Jews, Jihad, Women's Rights


March 20, 2019 (Turning Point Project) — The unanswered question about the controversy over Representative Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitic statements is why anyone was surprised by them.

Judging by the heavy duty hijabs she wears, Omar is a religious Muslim. And the Koran, which is sacred scripture to Muslims, is replete with anti-Jewish sentiments: Jews are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); they wish evil for people and try to mislead them (2:109); and they are cursed by Allah (9:30) who transformed them into apes and pigs (5:59–60). It shouldn't come as a surprise that someone who takes the Koran seriously might harbor anti-Semitic attitudes.

In the Muslim world, Jews are widely considered to be at the back of every bad thing that's ever happened. Just a few days ago, for example, a Muslim student at NYU accused Chelsea Clinton of being a cause of the New Zealand mosque attack. Clinton's crime? In the wake of Ilhan Omar's tweet, Clinton tweeted: "We should expect all elected officials ... to not traffic in anti-Semitism." So a mild criticism of anti-Semitism somehow led a white supremacist in New Zealand who is, in all probability, also an anti-Semite, to kill Muslims at worship. That's hard to figure. But, then, anti-Jewish conspiracy theories are not known for their logical consistency.

At this point one is supposed to say that not all Muslims are anti-Semitic. That's quite true. One is also supposed to add that the vast majority of Muslims are not in the least anti-Semitic. But that, sorry to say, is highly doubtful. An ADL global survey of anti-Semitic attitudes reveals that people who live in Muslim majority lands score higher on anti-Semitism than other people in other countries. In the West Bank and Gaza 93% of those surveyed had anti-Semitic attitudes. In Iraq the figure was 92%. In both Libya and Algeria, 87% had a negative view of Jews, while 86% of Tunisians and 80% of Moroccans held anti-Semitic views.

It follows that — unless they become thoroughly assimilated — Muslims who migrate from these countries into the West will carry these anti-Semitic attitudes with them. Exhibit A is Europe. The continent which promised the world, "never again," has seen a dramatic rise in anti-Jewish hate crimes coinciding with the recent migration of millions of Muslims into Europe.

But instead of resisting the new wave of anti-Semitism, a significant number of European politicians are adapting to it. A prime example is Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the British Labour Party, who has basically done nothing to quell the growing anti-Jewish element in his party. The slide into anti-Semitism is in part a response to the rise of the Muslim voter. According to the Office of National Statistics, the Muslim population of England and Wales in 2011 was 5.4 percent of the total, while the Jewish population stood at only 0.5 percent.

The muted Democratic Party response to Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitism suggests that the Democrats, like their counterparts in Britain, will also follow the path of least resistance. Instead of a strong resolution condemning anti-Semitism, all that the Democrats could muster was a watered-down statement condemning every kind of hate under the sun. Currently, Jews in America outnumber Muslims, but by 2040, Muslims will replace Jews as the second largest religious group after Christians.

If one takes a global view, the Muslim-Jewish ratio is even more lopsided. There are approximately 1.7 billion Muslims in the world, but only about 16 million Jews. To put that in perspective, consider that the total population of all the Jews in the world is less than half of the population of Tokyo. If you're a politician with an eye on potential voters, you're not going to expend a lot of energy defending a group of people that makes up only .02 percent of the world's population.

In defense of Ilhan Omar, Representative Jan Schakowsky said, "she comes from a different culture." But that's precisely the point, isn't it? Culture is very powerful. It does shape the way people think and act. We all know it, but our society requires us to deny it. The culture-shapers in the West demand that we acquiesce in the fiction that all cultures and religions are equally beneficent, tolerant, and freedom-loving, and thus all people share the same basic values. They tell us that a multicultural world will be a less bigoted one.

But the truth is, most Muslims grow up in cultures that are steeped in anti-Semitism. It's not a hypothesis. It's a fact. Some Muslims rise above their cultural conditioning, but many do not. Thus, it is quite reasonable to expect that when Muslims migrate they will bring some of that anti-Semitic conditioning with them. Ilhan Omar is not an aberration. She is in the Islamic mainstream.

What else can we expect as Muslim migration into the West increases? One doesn't have to be a Nostradamus to predict an increase in misogyny and a rise in the mistreatment of women. Islamic societies are not friendly to women's rights. In Mauritania, the Parliament has twice rejected a bill that would require tougher penalties for violence against women. The rejected bill would also have allowed women to travel without their husband's permission. But the Islamic arbiters of culture in Mauritania said no. Not surprisingly, similar bills to protect women and to raise the marriageable age for girls have been rejected in a number of different legislatures throughout the Muslim world.

The Koran says that "Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other" (4:34). The same passage authorizes husbands to "admonish them [their wives] and send them to beds apart and beat them" (4:34). Moreover, an authoritative Hadith records that Muhammad gave his comrades permission to rape non-Muslim women captured in combat (Sahih Muslim, vol. 2, no. 3371). Since Islam considers itself to be in a permanent state of war with the non-Islamic world, this is often interpreted by some Muslim men to mean that non-Muslim women in non-Islamic countries can be raped with impunity.

Should it come as a surprise, then, that as Muslim immigration into Europe has increased, so has the incidence of rape and other sexual assaults against girls and women? When arrested and brought before courts, the perpetrators are often puzzled. They don't see anything wrong with their behavior, and they argue that in their own countries, uncovered women are fair game. In similar fashion, their lawyers frequently trot out the "they-come-from-a-different-culture" defense. And it frequently works. Judges in Europe tend to give astonishingly light sentences to Muslims who are found guilty of rape.

The question is not, "Does culture affect attitudes and behaviors?" Everyone from lenient German judges to culturally sensitive Democratic congresswomen tacitly admits that it does. The question is, are there objective standards of right and wrong by which all cultures can be judged? That is the question that the Nuremberg Trial judges had to answer after the Holocaust. And that is the question before us today.

The same question comes up in the matter of female genital mutilation (FGM). Although FGM has been a criminal offense in the UK since 1985, it has nevertheless become a major problem which may affect as many as 60,000 girls. How did the once unheard of practice of FGM grow to such proportions? The most likely reason is that it was never prosecuted. In fact, the first conviction for FGM in Britain didn't occur until February of this year.

Why is that? FGM expert and attorney Dr. Charlotte Proudman maintains that the lack of prosecutions is due to fears about being accused of racism: "[Doctors and police] are concerned about cultural sensitivities, worried about being branded racists.'' In short, British authorities consider FGM to be a cultural thing, and thus something that they, as good multiculturalists, shouldn't pass judgment on. Meanwhile, in Britain and also in continental Europe, tens of thousands of Muslim girls and young women continue to pay the price for this non-judgmental attitude. It is estimated that at least 500,000 European Muslims have been victims of the brutal practice.

Will FGM come to America? As you probably know, it already has. The only question is, will it spread? According to the Population Reference Bureau, the number of woman and girls at risk for FGM has doubled in the past ten years, with more than half a million at risk of undergoing the procedure.

One of the three metropolitan areas where the practice is most prevalent is Minneapolis which has the largest Somali Muslim community in the U.S., and is also the home district of Ilhan Omar. Omar has said that the practice is "heinous," but nevertheless argued against a Minnesota bill that would increase penalties for FGM (although she ultimately voted for it).

Another place with a disproportionate number of FGM cases is the Detroit area, which also happens to be the home district of Rashida Tlaib, the other Muslim congresswoman and a defender of Ilhan Omar. In November, 2018 a Federal Judge in Detroit dismissed multiple charges of FGM against a Michigan doctor and her co-defendants, ruling that the federal law banning FGM is unconstitutional. Tellingly, the doctor's lawyers used the "multicultural" defense saying that their clients were being "persecuted for practicing their religion by a culture and society that doesn't understand their beliefs and is misinterpreting what they did."

The judge's ruling was based on a legal technicality, not on the cultural defense, but as the Muslim population in the U.S. grows, we are likely to hear more of the "we-have-a-different-culture" argument in defense of anti-Jewish sentiments, misogynist practices, and FGM.

Ironically, one of the strongest voices protesting against the relativistic multicultural position is that of Ayaan Hirsi Ali who, like Ilhan Omar, is also a refugee from Somalia. A former member of the Dutch Parliament and also a former Muslim, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is, perhaps, the leading defender of a woman's inherent rights against Islam's cultural and religious claims. Here is the mission statement of her AHA Foundation:

The organization believes in liberty for all. That means liberty from female genital mutilation, honor violence and forced marriages. And it means liberty to challenge the ideology of Islamism — extremism that threatens Western Civilization — with rational Enlightenment thought.

We are rapidly coming to the point where we will have to choose between Hirsi Ali's defense of universal rights, and the multicultural view that what's right and wrong is relative — simply a function of one's surrounding culture.

Although Hirsi Ali is an atheist, she respects Christianity, and her natural rights philosophy with its emphasis on rationality is close to the Catholic position. The Catholic Church holds that there is a natural order of things which is accessible to our reason. Out of this natural law flow certain natural rights as well as moral duties proper to our human nature. The Church is, in fact, one of the few institutions still capable of making the case that moral rules are not arbitrary inventions of cultures but rather that they follow from a proper understanding of our human nature.

We tend to take it for granted that the rejection of anti-Semitism and misogyny will continue to be bedrock principles of our society. But it's best not to make that assumption. Because recent generations of Americans have been thoroughly schooled in the doctrine of cultural relativism, the battle for these bedrock principles may have to be fought all over again.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/ilhan-omars-islam-shows-the-myth-of-multiculturalism

She voted to ban FGM.

"Ilhan also faced criticism this week from the far-right news site Breitbart for allegedly arguing against a 2017 bill banning female genital mutilation.

This is despite the fact that Ilhan had voted in the affirmative to pass the bill along with 128 other members of the Minnesota state legislature. The lawmaker responded to the claims on Twitter, “I am perplexed by the number of “reporters” who are so allergic to the truth … Do better, just do better!”
 
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