Trump's really really really really really really bad day gets FAR worse

Althea said:
'Political differences'. That's funny. This is more about a crook profiting off of his failed policies, while we will ultimately pay the bill. No. Tax returns do not show loan applications. Loan applications do. Cohen is a piece of shit, who lied to Congress. He lied to Congress, on trump's behalf, at the instruction of 'Individual 1'.

Listen...you can continue to defend him. That's your prerogative. The rest of us want to see the crook sent packing. I'm happy to wait until '20, but he can do quite a bit more damage by then.


I guess you don't live in NY. We've known for decades that he's a crook. Too bad key states fell for his lies and deceptions. They now have buyer's remorse.
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Yes, political differences. All the things you claim sound exactly like the right claimed about Hillary, Obama, and now they are working on Biden. Both claim the other side is worse and deserve all the nasty charges.

If New York knew Trump was a crook for decades why didn't you bother to do anything about it? Sounds like NY condones criminal activity and now they get all morally outraged.
 
Flash said:
domer76 claimed there were "Violations of the Emoluments Clause." Who made the claim there might be violations? You don't investigate something unless somebody has made claims there might be problems.
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You're really not following the history of this group of crooks. When they had all branches of govt, they refused Democrat calls for emoluments investigations. He got rid of the ethics staff, so there was nobody around to act as watch dog. Now House Democrats are investigating, albeit with nothing but obstruction at every turn.
 
Flash said:
Yes, political differences. All the things you claim sound exactly like the right claimed about Hillary, Obama, and now they are working on Biden. Both claim the other side is worse and deserve all the nasty charges.

If New York knew Trump was a crook for decades why didn't you bother to do anything about it? Sounds like NY condones criminal activity and now they get all morally outraged.
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You should probably read this thread. I've discussed all of these points already. Nobody ever claimed Obama was a crook. Clinton either, save for trump, who has proven himself a pathological liar.
 
Flash said:
domer76 claimed there were "Violations of the Emoluments Clause." Who made the claim there might be violations? You don't investigate something unless somebody has made claims there might be problems.
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emoluments clause is a farce anyway -never been used at a POTUS level.

What NY did was pass a Bill of Attainder -unConstitutional as well
 
Heff said:
The constitution says: the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

You're applauding the abuse of power.
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And your support of Trump ISN’T supporting the abuse of power? You’ve got to be fucking kidding.
 
Althea said:
You should probably read this thread. I've discussed all of these points already. Nobody ever claimed Obama was a crook. Clinton either, save for trump, who has proven himself a pathological liar.
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Come on, many people still claim Hillary is a crook. I am not arguing whether Hillary or Trump is a crook--only that both sides make those same charges and are equally convinced they are right and the other side is stupid, immoral, destroying America, and varied conspiracy theories. All the things you say about Trump the right says about the left with equal conviction.
 
Althea said:
Individuals in Congress have far less ability to craft policies that further their portfolios. This POTUS' every foreign policy is founded in his personal gains, or those of his kids/inlaws.
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so the branch that actual crafts policy has less ability to craft policy compared to the branch that doesn't directly craft policy.

:rofl2:
 
Flash said:
Come on, many people still claim Hillary is a crook. I am not arguing whether Hillary or Trump is a crook--only that both sides make those same charges and are equally convinced they are right and the other side is stupid, immoral, destroying America, and varied conspiracy theories. All the things you say about Trump the right says about the left with equal conviction.
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:thinking: I agree w/ both, is it not possible both sides are right.?????;)
 
Flash said:
Come on, many people still claim Hillary is a crook. I am not arguing whether Hillary or Trump is a crook--only that both sides make those same charges and are equally convinced they are right and the other side is stupid, immoral, destroying America, and varied conspiracy theories. All the things you say about Trump the right says about the left with equal conviction.
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Except the claims against trump are valid. Even you know that, as you try to sit on the fence and claim both sides are exactly the same. Again...I've known about trump for several decades. Most in the country are just learning
 
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