No.
Manafort does.
McGahn does.
Hicks does.
Trump does.
Only they can state their motivation and reasons for doing what they did.
It's pretty obvious why they are avoiding being called to testify in a hearing.
Nancy has been waiting because she wants more than just impeachment-JAIL!!
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No.
Manafort does.
McGahn does.
Hicks does.
Trump does.
Only they can state their motivation and reasons for doing what they did.
It's pretty obvious why they are avoiding being called to testify in a hearing.
Southern Chicken
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The report also states:
"The Office could not reliably determine Manafort's purpose in sharing internal polling data
with Kilimnik during the campaign period."
If they couldn't reliably determine it with their insights into the case why do you think I could?
Yes.
Manafort was literally discussing the Trump campaign strategy with Russians while he was still campaign chair:
Like I said...you're fucked.
From the instances of Obstruction of justice, specifically;
His attempts to get McGahn and Sessions to fire Mueller
His attempt to get Sessions to fire Comey
His attempt to have his WH Counsel reach out to Flynn upon learning of Flynn's cooperation with the SC
His attempt to direct Cohen to lie to investigators
His attempt to stop Hicks and McGahn from obeying the subpoena
That's what you have to defend of Trump's.
On this, his actions are not inconclusive.
Southern Chicken
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Did the report state that the Trump administration get directly implicated on Manafort's activity?
Instead of lashing out at me because of how frustrated you are, you answer the fucking questions?
YES!
Manafort was sharing polling data with Russians in PA, WI, MI, and MN, while he was campaign manager.
He was discussing the campaign's strategy with Russian spies.
Which is why we need to have hearings as to why Manafort did this.
The "why" can be answered by Manafort or Trump.
Mueller can't answer the "why".
Why would Manafort share polling data with Russians for months?
Southern Chicken
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I am sorry, I am looking for the WE criminally charge the Trump administration part in the report. Did you read it in the report?
They couldn't determine it because trump refused to testify under oath about it.
Someone is going to have to eventually answer why if they want to defend him.
Mueller said he couldn't charge a sitting President.
But 34 other businesses and people were charged.
Do you...do you think no one was charged from the Mueller report?
You're clueless, man.
This is quite a tenuous argument to make in defense of Trump amid the instances of obstruction.
I'm asking the reason why Trump did all that obstruction.
Why did he?
Southern Chicken
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"The Office could not reliably determine Manafort's purpose in sharing internal polling data
with Kilimnik during the campaign period."
The report states
"Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw
ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the
President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were
making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a
thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice,
we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach
that judgment. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a
crime, it also does not exonerate him.
Meaning inconclusive.
Why did Trump commit these acts of obstruction?
Other than collusion, what could the reason possibly be for Manafort to collude with Russia?
Southern Chicken
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Was Trump charged?
WHY did they determine not to make a prosecutorial judgment?
because, as Mueller later says in that very section; the OLC guidelines prohibited indicting a sitting President.
So you're acting in bad faith by deliverately withholding parts of the report that undermine your defense.
Why did Manafort share polling data with Russia?
Why did Trump have his WH Counsel reach out to Flynn after learning of Flynn's cooperation with the SC?
You refuse to answer those questions because you know the answer will mean your "no collusion" narrative is as weak as your upper body strength.
He couldn't be charged because of the OLC rules that Mueller cites in the report you haven't read.
Why did Trump order McGahn to fire Mueller, and then order McGahn to lie about it?
Not in regards to obstruction or collusion pinhead!