16,000 people in L.A. now live in cars, vans and RVs. ,Tar Oozes From Ground Into LA

RB 60 said:
I know she's full of shit. My cousins lived in Phila. for 21 years. He was a cop, she was a concert pianist instructor/consultant. They bought the other half of my uncle's home when he passed and didn't have much left over.
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Anecdotal claims are worthless.
 
RB 60 said:
I know she's full of shit. My cousins lived in Phila. for 21 years. He was a cop, she was a concert pianist instructor/consultant. They bought the other half of my uncle's home when he passed and didn't have much left over.
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I've only been to Phily once but that City is a different animal isn't it? I feel like they have a lot more affordable housing that other big cities. A huge issue in SF for instance is that not only can cops and teachers not afford to live here but first responders can't either. If another big one hits many of the first responders will live too far away and might not be able to access the City.
 
Oneuli said:
Not at all. Let's say you work in NYC and own a median home in Brooklyn. As of 2018, at least, that was worth about $808,000:

https://www.6sqft.com/for-the-first-time-average-brooklyn-home-prices-break-the-1m-threshold/

And let's say you were willing to step back, in retirement, to a much less desirable location. For example, let's say you are willing to live somewhere like Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Here's a McMansion there for $73,324 (5 bed, 2.5 bath, 4,398 sq ft):

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1700-S-Olive-St-Pine-Bluff-AR-71601/76210386_zpid/

You could buy yourself that place for the money you made selling in Brooklyn, and have $734,676 left over. If you stuck that into an index fund making 10% per year, you could produce $73,468 per year for life. And with the crappy local pay scales in Pine Bluff, you could hire yourself a couple full-time domestic servants with that money, with plenty left over (even if you paid them each enough to fund a median household in the area, it would cost $64,996, leaving you enough left over for a couple nice vacations per year.)

It's a smart move, if you can stomach living in such a place. With the wealth you accumulated in a productive part of the country, you can go and live like a queen in a less productive part.
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in a productive part of the country,
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Yea great city you live in. Funny we don't have those numbers percentage wise in our nonproductive cities like Atlanta. 3,000= .06% versus 78,000= 1.02% so much for your great emerald city from the land of OZ.
 
anonymoose said:
To each their own. I grew up in New Orleans and the mindset of many native New Orleanians is extremely provincial as I'm sure it is with other places.
They'd rather earn half of what they could make in Houston to live in N.O. where they grew up. Personally I'd rather have my eyes gouged out than live in that shithole for any amt. of money.
"Collective wisdom", lol. I can easily turn that around and call it collective stupidity. Let's take your analogy of the BMW and Ford Fiesta. I'm not a car person, therefore tend to buy used cars and drive them until they're irreparable. Paying for a BMW or any premium car would actually make me unhappy because I'd be reminded of money I didn't have for traveling or golf, e.g.
So in the end, it's what makes one happy. Has nothing to do with wisdom. If living in a shithole , literally, around homeless vagrants makes you happy, fine. I'm not going to judge you. I just don't want to be around you.
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Certainly each person has her own tastes and they may not reflect those of the market overall. For example, if a vacation at the local Ramada Inn makes you happier than a luxury suite in Fiji, that's cool. I'm just saying that when you look at people as a whole, they're judging living in liberal cities to be more desirable than living in cheaper areas.
 
RB 60 said:
We conservatives value freedom....
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Conservatives value some freedoms for some people.... but it's always interesting how few conservative speak out against mass incarceration, or infringements on reproductive rights, or against privatization of public lands (which, of course, deprives the vast majority of people the freedom to access those lands), etc.

And we, out here in rural America, don't create the problems that need fixing like the cities do.
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That strikes me as an inviting a True Scotsman fallacy -- as in, I could point out all sorts of problems that are worse in rural America, like much worse every health, life expectancy, and education levels, but that would just cause you to conclude those are not problems "that need fixing" -- consistent with your initial statement. Meanwhile, problems from the cities, even if most people never encounter them (I've lived in a city uninterrupted for three years and have never seen human excrement on the streets) would be defined as a problem that needs fixing.
 
Grumpy said:
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Yea great city you live in. Funny we don't have those numbers percentage wise in our nonproductive cities like Atlanta. 3,000= .06% versus 78,000= 1.02% so much for your great emerald city from the land of OZ.
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I don't know what you were trying to say.
 
Oneuli said:
I don't know what you were trying to say.
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Simple you are a NYC elitist snob who looks down on everyone not like you. NYC has more poor and homeless percentage wise than unproductive Atlanta where pickups with gun racks and confederate flags are the rule and a city run by an ignorant uneducated black woman. You are exactly the type of New Yorker that gives it such a bad name. And I am being kind. BTW I am only telling you how me and others here view you from your posts.
 
katzgar said:
tar has been oozing from the ground at La Brea for many thousands of years you moron
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Many millions. It trapped dinosaurs who have been extinct for 65 million years. Now it is because California is Democratic. Lots of homeless go to California and Florida to escape bad weather.
 
Grumpy said:
Simple you are a NYC elitist snob who looks down on everyone not like you.
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I do not. There are many who are not like me who I respect greatly. You're not one of them, though. Try not to cry too hard about that.

an ignorant uneducated black woman
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What's funny is how racists automatically assume that if someone is black, she must be uneducated. In the case of Atlanta's mayor, she's a law school graduate, which means she's got about seven more years of education than someone like you, who barely graduated high school.

You are exactly the type of New Yorker that gives it such a bad name.
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It doesn't have a bad name, snowflake. New York has a very good name -- it's one of the world's foremost cities, one of the premier tourist destinations on the planet, a hub for business, and one of the more highly valued places in the world to live. There's a reason that even people who can't afford its high prices are willing to couch surf for the chance to get a slice of the New York life.
 
Oneuli said:
I don't know what you were trying to say.
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let me help you, the highest homeless rates in this country are in cities run by Democrats.
Homeless people are by and large victims of their surroundings. policy in general.
Either the drug policy isn't working, the re-employment policy, the rehabilitation policy, the housing policy.
whatever the reason there are large numbers in certain cities is no coincidence.

And homeless people don't settle just anywhere, they settle where they can get away with what they need or want to get away with, finding drugs, benefits, living in plain site, wrecking neighborhoods.

thank You Democrats

catching on are you?
 
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