Trump's economy is booming, but so is inequality

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Buzzword fallacy.

Now you're just making up fallacies because you're too scared to lose the debate.

Just delete your account if that's your tactic now.

 

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oid argument fallacy.

In trying to defend yourself from charges of sophistry your strategy is to...exercise more sophistry?

 

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Achieved.

We did not have 3% growth in 2018.

We had 2.85% growth.

You're a liar based on this.

 

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Lie.

Truth. Jobs haven't been "brought back". They never will be. You're replacing old manufacturing jobs with jobs in non-durable vices and considering that a success.

 

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You seek to avoid debate by invoking random attempts to label posts you cannot answer as fallacies.

Lie. You are not debating. You are chanting. Argument by repetition fallacy.

Those four companies were just examples of major companies that have cut jobs,

Cherry picking fallacy.

despite you all saying that wouldn't happen if we passed your stupid tax cut.

Lie. Never said any such thing.

We cut taxes for corporations and they still cut jobs.

Cherry picking fallacy.

No...the only fallacy here is you.

Redefinition fallacy. People are not a fallacy.

 

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Lie. Manufacturing these products has always been manufacturing.

Right, but you're not making that distinction. What you're trying to do is lie and pretend that the same jobs that were lost to automation and outsourcing are "coming back" but they're not.

Furthermore, they're not even being created in the places that left them.

So you traded a good, union, auto manufacturing job that produces a durable good, for a non-union job that produces booze for people to escape.

But if you count that as a win, then your bar is pretty low.

 

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Conservatives aren't destroying society.

You literally created concentration camps for children.

 

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The only one living in a 'horrid reality' is you.

I am living in your horrid reality, yes.

I am subject to your hideousness daily.

With you, it's purely about living vicariously through Trump because you've tasted no personal success yourself, and aren't ready to blame your own deficiencies for your lack of success.

You're a fraud, and I see right through this act.

 

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Lie. You are not debating. You are chanting. Argument by repetition fallacy.

Dude...you're the one who literally repeated "lie" about two dozen times in one three-post outburst on this very thread.

I posted numbers, links, data...none of which you bothered to address.

The reason is obvious; you're a fraud who has cast your lot in with Trump so you have to toil that baggage.

 

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The economy only contracts if GDP growth is negative.

Nope. GDP is not the only factor.

Growth at 0.4% means the economy is still growing.

No it doesn't.

And in 2015, GDP growth was 2.88%. Trump has yet to eclipse that number, and probably never will.

Lie.

You're not good at this.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

 

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Cherry picking fallacy.

How so? Explain.

 

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Lie. Never said any such thing.

Sure you did. You all made predictions of your tax cut that never came to fruition. You're still doing it!

 

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Cherry picking fallacy.

How so? Explain.

We cut taxes for corporations and they still cut jobs.

 

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Redefinition fallacy. People are not a fallacy.

You've literally invented fallacies on this thread for the sole purpose of avoidance and cowardice.

No wonder Conservatism always fails...look who defends it.

 

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Nope. GDP is not the only factor.

REDEFINITION FALLACY!

Now you're getting sloppy.

You said the economy contracted through 2015, but the only way to prove that would be to show GDP growth negative through 2015.

GDP stopped contracting (i.e. GDP growth rate ceased being negative) in Q3 2010.

 

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So now we get to the point in the debate where you just label any accountability as "a lie" because it's easier for a lazy person like you to do that, than it is to do the work.

Lie. I call a lie a lie.

You're lazy.

Inversion fallacy.

Your arguments are lazy.

Inversion fallacy.

Your responses are lazy.

Inversion fallacy.

You put in no good faith effort to defend that which you believe; all you do here is exercise sophistry.

Lie.

You do that because it's all you've done your entire life and no one has ever called you on it, or forced you to accept responsibility for it.

Psychoquackery.

That explains why you have such an entitlement complex.

Inversion fallacy.

 

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No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

The only way an economy contracts is if the GDP growth is negative.

GDP is the measurement of our economy. So if GDP grows, even by 0.4%, that is still growth.

In 2015, GDP grew 2.88%. Trump has yet to match that.

 

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In the last 26 months of Obama’s presidency, manufacturing employment grew by 96,000 or 0.8%.
In Trump’s first 26 months, manufacturers added 479,000 jobs, or 3.9%, 399% more jobs than Obama’s record.

Is it any wonder that President Obama derided then-candidate Trump for needing a “magic wand” to deliver on his manufacturing jobs promise?

On the other hand, federal, state and local government jobs, many of them creators of job-stifling red tape,
grew by 1.8% in Obama’s last 26 months compared to 0.8% under Trump.

In fact, over the past 26 months, there were 168% more jobs in manufacturing created than in government, while during Obama’s last 26 months, there were 303% more government jobs created than in manufacturing.
This was not sustainable. Government jobs don’t pay for themselves.

And here’s where President Trump’s pro-growth policies come into play.

The current stretch in increased manufacturing employment started in November, 2016—the month of Trump’s election. Employers, especially those faced with making long-term investments in physical plants and equipment, anticipated regulatory relief under Trump.

They got the relief they hoped for.

By October 2018, the Trump Administration cut 2.7 major regulations for every one added, greatly reducing regulatory cost and risk.

In addition, the tax cuts signed into law in December 2017 not only reduced corporate tax rates, encouraging investment, they also incentivized U.S.-based multinational corporations to bring home profits held overseas.

In the first nine months of 2018, these firms repatriated $571.3 billion—money needed for job-creating investment at home, but had been held in foreign countries because America had the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckd...t-26-months-over-obamas-last-26/#17c76ed020a6

These numbers are correct.

 

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Lie.

GDP growth in 2015 was 2.88%.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...mic-growth-strongest-since-2005-idUSKBN1AD1JM

Drumpf’s misleading spin on the 2018 GDP growth rate
With the March 28 revision, Drumpf slipped just behind Obama’s best year, with a rate of 2.85 percent compared to Obama’s 2.88 percent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-spin-gdp-growth-rate/?utm_term=.09d051e367b1

Ouch. How embarrassing for your argument.

 

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You all made that prediction...multiple times.

Tax overhaul means a $4,000-a-year pay raise for the average family, Drumpf advisor says
January 29th, 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/tax...year-pay-hike-for-average-family-hassett.html

The average American family will get $4,000 from tax cuts, Drumpf team claims
October 16th, 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...uts-trump-team-claims/?utm_term=.44415642f1cc

Why are you lying about your own predictions?

Lie. I never made any such predictions. Neither did Trump.