Florida man found guilty of manslaughter in parking lot shooting that led to 'Stand Y

Jack said:
In my opinion, 'pusher' had an option to 'retreat from Battle' or maintain a 'Threatening Position'.
Did you notice the difference when 'pusher' got shot? His attitude changed, he decided to 'retreat from Battle', he was no longer in a 'Threatening Position'.
The guy on the ground felt safe. He didn't run after the guy and keep shooting him.

'pusher' is the Aggressor by violently shoving the guy off his feet. 'pusher' was given an option to 'Back the fuck off'. 'pusher' made a conscious decision to maintain his Aggressive Stance. 'pusher' was given Educational Assistance by getting shot in the chest, 'pusher' finally received Knowledge by removing himself from the Field of Battle.
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The pusher backed off his aggressive stance as soon as the gun was pointed at him.

At the time of the shot, he was already taking or had already taken a step back.

Plain as day.
 
Jack said:
The Violent Aggressor getting shot ... should be the norm.
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Only if the violence or threat of violence continues beyond the display of a weapon.

Had the pusher moved towards the shooter in a threatening manner AFTER the gun was drawn and pointed, SYG would have applied and the shooter would have never stood trial, and possibly never even been arrested or charged.

As it is, the pusher had abandoned his aggressive posture before he was shot.

The shooter killed him unnecessarily.

The push should be considered during sentencing.
 
Nomad said:
The pusher backed off his aggressive stance as soon as the gun was pointed at him.

At the time of the shot, he was already taking or had already taken a step back.

Plain as day.
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Taking 'one step back' isn't retreating from the Confrontation. 'pusher' is still in 'Attach Position'. If you get a gun pulled on you after you just assaulted a guy, you better 'Back the fuck off' or expect to get shot as a further inducement.
 
Jack said:
Taking 'one step back' isn't retreating from the Confrontation. 'pusher' is still in 'Attach Position'. If you get a gun pulled on you after you just assaulted a guy, you better 'Back the fuck off' or expect to get shot as a further inducement.
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I don't think the law agrees with you on that.
 
Nomad said:
Only if the violence or threat of violence continues beyond the display of a weapon.

Had the pusher moved towards the shooter in a threatening manner AFTER the gun was drawn and pointed, SYG would have applied and the shooter would have never stood trial, and possibly never even been arrested or charged.

As it is, the pusher had abandoned his aggressive posture before he was shot.

The shooter killed him unnecessarily.

The push should be considered during sentencing.
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Well Nomad, we disagree. If 'push' had attacked me out of the blue, I would expect him to maintain that attitude until I clearly see him as abandoning that attitude. 'push' could have walked to his car, raised his hands, moved way back indicating he was no longer a Threat. He didn't do that. He stood there glaring at the guy he had just shoved to the ground. I certainly wouldn't have felt safe getting back on my feet with 'push' that close to me. I don't condone Violent Aggression. What's wrong with Verbal Confrontation?
 
Jack said:
Well Nomad, we disagree. If 'push' had attacked me out of the blue, I would expect him to maintain that attitude until I clearly see him as abandoning that attitude. 'push' could have walked to his car, raised his hands, moved way back indicating he was no longer a Threat. He didn't do that. He stood there glaring at the guy he had just shoved to the ground. I certainly wouldn't have felt safe getting back on my feet with 'push' that close to me. I don't condone Violent Aggression. What's wrong with Verbal Confrontation?
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Don't be so dumb. If was going to hurt the coward he would have kicked his head off while he was down. He didn't even approach. There's something wrong with your eyesight/comprehension.
 
moon said:
Don't be so dumb. If was going to hurt the coward he would have kicked his head off while he was down. He didn't even approach. There's something wrong with your eyesight/comprehension.
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:) Sitting on the ground you have some kind of defense against an attack. Usually chickenshit Combatants like 'push', wait for their Victim to be at their most vulnerable, when they use all 4 limbs to get up, the Victim gets kicked. The Victim expends lots of energy trying to get up, the Aggressor uses minimal effort kicking the guy in the face.

I've said my opinion on the matter.
 
Sirthinksalot said:
Cite evidence that he was "threatening" them or STFU.
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he is blocking the mans access to his car with his children inside and is standing very close to the woman blocking her from going somewhere else

He approached their CAR they did not approach HIM


who was threatening whom ?


and they were RIGHT to be afraid for their children's lives huh
 
Notice how Big Media always slows down the video so it looks like the shooter had plenty of time to see the thug was backing away. In real time, it was over in an instant.
 
Jack said:
:) Sitting on the ground you have some kind of defense against an attack. Usually chickenshit Combatants like 'push', wait for their Victim to be at their most vulnerable, when they use all 4 limbs to get up, the Victim gets kicked. The Victim expends lots of energy trying to get up, the Aggressor uses minimal effort kicking the guy in the face.

I've said my opinion on the matter.
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dear fucking idiot ,


he Pushed the yelling nut bag away from his access to his vehicle and his wife


what part of the GROUND did the victim have a right to stand in?
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Notice how Big Media always slows down the video so it looks like the shooter had plenty of time to see the thug was backing away. In real time, it was over in an instant.
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the asshole was approaching his wife and vehicle ( with his children in it)


The man had a RIGHT to get back in his vehicle to leave huh you stupid fucking racist scum.


fuck you very much
 
evince said:
dear fucking idiot ,


he Pushed the yelling nut bag away from his access to his vehicle and his wife


what part of the GROUND did the victim have a right to stand in?
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I've tossed in my 2 cents worth, Evince. I've abandoned this Thread.
 
Reverse the races and Big Media would have called this an obvious case of self defense. This was another case of Big Media intimidating a jury. The jurors knew if they said not guilty the press would have investigated all the jurors and exposed their lives. This is becoming a huge problem.
 
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