The insanity and stupidity of the undemocratic Electoral College explained
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Yeah, like we need a lecture for one of the dumbest fucks in television. Yawn!
It's dishonest morons like you and Hayes that concerned the founders of this great nation the most.
It's dishonest morons like you and Hayes that concerned the founders of this great nation the most.
The idiot who started this thread is a testimony to how profoundly our liberal educational institutions are failing our children. When one isn't even taught why there is an electoral college or what is contained in the Constitution, they are left with true ignorance.
Adolf_Twitler
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Are you saying Republican presidents couldn't be elected without the electoral college?
Well, I AM SAYING IT LOUD AND CLEAR!
That is the only reason why we've had the last two Republican presidents.
All of our Democrat presidents did it the real and honest way- By winning the POPULAR VOTE!
Into the Night
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The President of the United States is not elected by popular vote, dumbass.
reagansghost
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the EC was an imperfect solution the framers dreamed up...……completely outdated and useless in modern times:
The system makes so little 21st (and really 19th or 20th) century sense that as scores of new nations have made the transition to democracies, and as they studied the varieties of democratic systems already in existence, none have adopted the Electoral College model for choosing a president.
In fact, if the Electoral College system wasn’t in the Constitution, it would almost certainly be struck down as unconstitutional because the apportionment of electoral votes
violates the principle of one-person, one-vote.
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the framers wanted to create a powerful new executive branch — something that had been missing from the first national American government organized under the Articles of Confederation in the middle of the War for Independence. But the Philadelphia convention was stymied over how to choose a president.
The solution that would seem obvious to modern eyes — hold a national election and whoever gets the most votes take office — seemed unimaginable to most of the framers.
The framers were smart and well-intentioned, but had plenty of blind spots. They were leery of too much democracy, which is why only one of the four power centers they created (the House of Representatives) was to be directly elected.
The more often overlooked blind spot that led to the Electoral College system was the framers’ thoughts — or lack of thoughts — about political parties. The framers didn’t foresee the development of national political parties (even though the first two-party system took shape almost immediately after ratification). Without parties to nominate candidates and organize their supporters, without a national media, without a tradition (which didn’t come for more than 100 years) of candidates traveling around the country begging for votes, the framers couldn’t picture how, after George Washington left the scene, there would be political leaders with sufficient national reputations among ordinary voters to support a national election.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...toral-college-system-makes-little-sense-today
The system makes so little 21st (and really 19th or 20th) century sense that as scores of new nations have made the transition to democracies, and as they studied the varieties of democratic systems already in existence, none have adopted the Electoral College model for choosing a president.
In fact, if the Electoral College system wasn’t in the Constitution, it would almost certainly be struck down as unconstitutional because the apportionment of electoral votes
violates the principle of one-person, one-vote.
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the framers wanted to create a powerful new executive branch — something that had been missing from the first national American government organized under the Articles of Confederation in the middle of the War for Independence. But the Philadelphia convention was stymied over how to choose a president.
The solution that would seem obvious to modern eyes — hold a national election and whoever gets the most votes take office — seemed unimaginable to most of the framers.
The framers were smart and well-intentioned, but had plenty of blind spots. They were leery of too much democracy, which is why only one of the four power centers they created (the House of Representatives) was to be directly elected.
The more often overlooked blind spot that led to the Electoral College system was the framers’ thoughts — or lack of thoughts — about political parties. The framers didn’t foresee the development of national political parties (even though the first two-party system took shape almost immediately after ratification). Without parties to nominate candidates and organize their supporters, without a national media, without a tradition (which didn’t come for more than 100 years) of candidates traveling around the country begging for votes, the framers couldn’t picture how, after George Washington left the scene, there would be political leaders with sufficient national reputations among ordinary voters to support a national election.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...toral-college-system-makes-little-sense-today
Adolf_Twitler
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No Shit Sherlock!
What I am saying is we have never had a Democrat president who didn't win both the necessary delegate votes and the overall POPULAR VOTE!
Sorry you are too stupid to understand that!
No; I am saying that without the electoral college, a majority of smaller States would lose representation. We are a Republic of States, not a pure democracy. It prevents high population states like Texas, California and New York from deciding every election.
Had you received a proper education, you would have known this instead of looking a moron asking stupid questions.
That's because you are an uneducated dullard with the intelligence of a lemming.
You lack the intelligence to comprehend how stupid you look.
...in New York, Texas and California.
It makes perfect sense to someone who isn't an uneducated dumbass. We are a Republic of States. Without the EC, three or four states would decide the outcome of every election.
The founders we extremely intelligent and smart in how they constructed the Republic to prevent it from becoming a third world Fascistic shit hole the Democratic Party of the Jackass would turn it into.
Apparently you're too stupid to comprehend that your statement is worthless. It doesn't matter. It takes 270 electoral votes to win the Presidency. Not a majority of the popular vote.
Had you been educated, instead of indoctrinated with stupidity, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS and not look like an ignoramus.
Let him whine if it makes him feel better. The Constitution will not change.
No, currently he is elected by geography, find it hard to believe that the Founding Fathers would endorse the process
You find it hard to believe because like your leftist pals, you're an uneducated dolt.
The irony here is that IF Republican Presidents started winning the popular vote every time, they'd be demanding a re-institution of the electoral college. Leftists are that fucking lame and pathetic.
Into the Night
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Nope. The reason for the Electoral College hasn't changed. It is still in use today, after over 200 years of being in the Constitution.
There are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth.
There are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth.
So?
There are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth. Each member of the Electoral College gets one vote.
For the reasons that have already been described to you, but which you ignore.
Not a blind spot.
There are currently no democracies anywhere on Earth. The United States is not a democracy and never has been.
It isn't. It is elected by popular vote by district.
Not a blind spot.
Political parties existed since before the United States, dumbass.
National political parties existed since before the United States, dumbass.
National political parties existed since before the United States, dumbass.
The current two largest parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, formed out of similar parties in the past. The current form of the Democrat party was formed in 1828 and became a national party in 1834. It has little to do with the Democrat Party formed by Jefferson in 1792. The Republican Party formed out of the Whig Party in 1854 and became a national party in 1860, about 63 years after the Constitution itself was ordained to power.
Into the Night
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The President is not elected by popular vote, dumbass.