The insanity and stupidity of the undemocratic Electoral College explained

If the US was a true democracy, segregation would remain extant, as more people favored it in the polls.

Thank the Grand Architect of the Universe that our Founding Fathers, who risked their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor, were wiser than this crop of far left loons today.
 
Lol, why should one persons vote carry more weight than another’s? Why should a person in Montana’s vote be worth 3 times a person in Texas? Why should I be penalized for living in a populated state?

Montana has 3 electoral votes while CA has 55 and TX has 38. Which states have more influence in choosing the president?
 
Excellent summation but you are casting your pearls before swine.

The Super Moderator (lol) wants a democratic election process at all levels of government. Would he want this if the urban population happened to be predominantly conservative? I don't think so.

Yup. And I imagine in that situation many conservatives would be looking to overhaul the electoral college just as liberals are doing now. That is the nature of petty partisan politics. It's not about issues anymore, it's just an "us vs. them" mentality. I don't think most people really care what the government does anymore, just so long as it has their fucking party name attached to it.
 
Saying the EC is a "delegation process"does not explain what that means? I understand how the EC operates, but have never heard it referred to as "delegation process."

What is being delegated and who is delegating it. Simple question....

Look dude, delegating electors in every state to vote in place of individuals is the problem I have with the Electoral process.

I am perfectly capable of weighing candidates and making a selection based on my own observations and selecting who I want to vote for as president! And my vote should represent itself- I DON'T NEED NO STINKING ELECTOR TO VOTE FOR ME.

So yes, there is a delegation process in every state that selects electors to replace the individual voters. It varies on how the states select their electors from state to state.

I am not part of the process to select the elector who will replace my vote- And therefore, I have no idea if they represent my vote or not.

I am an independent voter and do not trust the "ELECTORAL PROCESS"!

Electors could take a bribe from the other party and vote completely in the opposite direction!

That is why the Electoral College is a farce!
 
Moderation is great, in moderation.

This crop of far left loons have no clue as to the reasons for the electoral college nor do they care. The "Super Moderator" does not care about the efficacy of the electoral college. Just, we hate President Trump so he should not be the president.

It's "never Trump," nothing else.

Four more years...then Ivanka.
 
Look dude, delegating electors in every state to vote in place of individuals is the problem I have with the Electoral process.

I am perfectly capable of weighing candidates and making a selection based on my own observations and selecting who I want to vote for as president! And my vote should represent itself- I DON'T NEED NO STINKING ELECTOR TO VOTE FOR ME.

So yes, there is a delegation process in every state that selects electors to replace the individual voters. It varies on how the states select their electors from state to state.

I am not part of the process to select the elector who will replace my vote- And therefore, I have no idea if they represent my vote or not.

I am an independent voter and do not trust the "ELECTORAL PROCESS"!

Electors could take a bribe from the other party and vote completely in the opposite direction!

That is why the Electoral College is a farce!

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Look dude, delegating electors in every state to vote in place of individuals is the problem I have with the Electoral process.

I am perfectly capable of weighing candidates and making a selection based on my own observations and selecting who I want to vote for as president! And my vote should represent itself- I DON'T NEED NO STINKING ELECTOR TO VOTE FOR ME.

So yes, there is a delegation process in every state that selects electors to replace the individual voters. It varies on how the states select their electors from state to state.

I am not part of the process to select the elector who will replace my vote- And therefore, I have no idea if they represent my vote or not.

I am an independent voter and do not trust the "ELECTORAL PROCESS"!

Electors could take a bribe from the other party and vote completely in the opposite direction!

That is why the Electoral College is a farce!
The best man won in the last election. Just be happy for that.
 
The best man won in the last election. Just be happy for that.

The better person, lol, won in 2016.

Divine Providence came down like the gentle rain and it rained on the just and the unjust.

To paraphrase, we dodged a bullet.
 
I did learn in Civics class and was never satisfied with the explanation of why my vote counts less than others.

LIAR.

:smh:

You still have not adequately explained it either. Why are some people’s interest more important than mine? Why are we not equal? One person, one vote.

It's very basic. It is not about "people's interests"; it's about State's interests. Again, we are a Republic of States. The purpose of the EC was to give equal representation of the States and not tilting every election in favor of those states with high populations over those with lower.

Again, had you had an IQ above room temperature and paid attention in civics class, this was all taught and OBVIOUS in it's brilliance.

It was enacted because their Founders considered the masses too ignorant to vote in their best interest.

That is the dumbest explanation I have ever heard.

It’s time to get rid of the EC, it was never in the voters best interest.

Not going to happen; far smarter people than you will ever be do not agree with this moronic assertion.
 
Are you saying Republican presidents couldn't be elected without the electoral college?

Well, I AM SAYING IT LOUD AND CLEAR!

That is the only reason why we've had the last two Republican presidents.

All of our Democrat presidents did it the real and honest way- By winning the POPULAR VOTE!

Bill Clinton did not win a majority.

Also, there is a reason we don't have mob rule. It is why the electoral college was put in place.

Each state has a popular vote. All but two, are winner take all.
 
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MYTH: The Founding Fathers designed and favored our nation’s current system of electing the President.


The Founding Fathers never decided how presidential electors should be chosen. Instead, they left the matter to the states.

The Founding Fathers expected that the Electoral College would be a deliberative body. However, presidential electors became a rubber-stamp for the candidates nominated by their parties by the time of the nation’s first competitive presidential election in 1796.

The Electoral College further deviated from the Founders’ vision when state winner-take-all statutes became prevalent (long after the Founders were dead).

The winner-take-all method of awarding electoral votes was not debated (much less voted upon or adopted) at the 1787 Constitutional Convention.

The winner-take-all rule is not mentioned in the Federalist Papers.

The winner-take-all method was not the choice of the Founders and was, in fact, used by only three states in the nation’s first presidential election in 1789 (all of which abandoned it by 1800).

The electoral system that we have today was not designed, anticipated, or favored by the Founding Fathers. Instead, it is the result of decades of evolutionary change driven primarily by the emergence of political parties and the desire of each state’s ruling party not to give any of the state’s electoral votes to the minority party.

The winner-take-all rule came into widespread use because of the pressure created by its use in other states.

BULLSHIT! Moron.

The Constitutional Convention of 1787 considered several methods of electing the President, including selection by Congress, by the governors of the states, by the state legislatures, by a special group of Members of Congress chosen by lot and by direct popular election. Late in the convention, the matter was referred to the Committee of Eleven on Postponed Matters, which devised the Electoral College system in its original form. This plan, which met with widespread approval by the delegates, was incorporated into the final document with only minor changes.
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college
 
MYTH: The small states would be disadvantaged by a national popular vote.

It's not a myth. The popular vote would all but disenfranchise smaller rural states. Candidates would never have to campaign in them or care about them. High population states like New York, Maryland and California would decide nearly every election.

Dunce.
 
MYTH: A major reason for establishing the Electoral College was to prevent elections from becoming contests where presidential candidates would simply campaign in big cities.

Not a myth; it is a FACT. New York was the single largest population of the newly formed nation you clueless dolt. It still is.
 
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