Paula White: Christians Must Vote For Trump Because....

Better still, how do they not know Jebus was a commie whose essential message was for people to drop all material possessions and live like a dirty hippie and love each other?
They don't live anything like that. I personally don't think we should, but that IS the message of their lord, not mine.

Jesus was one of the worlds GREAT philosophers


he spoke of love and care for your fellow man because they are YOUR BRETHEREN



Only a fake Christian would support a "religious leader" who spoke the opposite


time for the REAL Christians to step up and PROTECT the reputation of Christians
 
How do people not see thru this fake Christian?

Because they're naive and really, really stupid. They're blinded by the right and many of them post on this forum.

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White said that Christians must turn to their Bibles and see “what does the word of God say, and where do I line up on policy?”

Even if they personally dislike Trump, she warned, “you’re going to have a make a decision that won’t be just held accountable here for how things turn out for you, your children, your grandchildren, but you’re going to have to stand accountable before God one day.”

She does not speak for Christianity any more than radical jihadists speak for all of Islam.

People like her basically conflate Trump-worship with Christian faith.

These evangelical fake Christians, at one time, also worshipped the ground George Dumbya Bush walked on. Now, they act as if they barely even know who the man is.
I personally believe this is all about money, privilege, and power in some reaches of the evangelical community. A lot of fake Christians have made a lot of money associating themselves with the political world of the reactionary rightwing.
 
I've been warning of this for quite a while now. The Christian Jihadis here want to implement Christian Sharia. And the way to do that is to take over the Judiciary.

Absolutely true. The nation wasn't founded as a theocracy. They're trying to make it one. The corporate oligarchs get these shitkicker Christians to vote squarely against their own financial best interests by pandering to their lunatic religious superstitions and their psycho need to be armed to the teeth with military assault weapons. It doesn't affect the oligarchs. Their wives and daughters can still get all the abortions and all the narcotics that they want, and they don't have to go near the unwashed cretins carrying the AR15s.

It's actually terrifying to see how dumb so many Americans are. Our only hope is to let New England, New York, and California run everything. Allowing shit kickers political influence is what's put us in the toilet we're in now.
 
She does not speak for Christianity any more than radical jihadists speak for all of Islam.

People like her basically conflate Trump-worship with Christian faith.

These evangelical fake Christians, at one time, also worshipped the ground George Dumbya Bush walked on. Now, they act as if they barely even know who the man is.
I personally believe this is all about money, privilege, and power in some reaches of the evangelical community. A lot of fake Christians have made a lot of money associating themselves with the political world of the reactionary rightwing.

Cheeto is just using her as yet another prop, to show the Xtian morons in the base how devout and Christ-like he is. She doesn't care. As a Whore4Jeebus... the notoriety just fills her bank account.
 
Cheeto is just using her as yet another prop, to show the Xtian morons in the base how devout and Christ-like he is. She doesn't care. As a Whore4Jeebus... the notoriety just fills her bank account.

Nice work.

I believe you can always spot the fake Christians by how shamelessly they wear their "faith" on their sleeve, how brazenly they run their mouths about their religion and run down other faith traditions, and how eager they are to leap onto their moral high horse.
 
Nice work.

I believe you can always spot the fake Christians by how shamelessly they wear their "faith" on their sleeve, how brazenly they run their mouths about their religion and run down other faith traditions, and how eager they are to leap onto their moral high horse.

Precisely. Those who are steadfast and serene in their beliefs have no need to run around slapping others in the face with it and insisting that others believe likewise. They don't fear other ideas and faiths (or those who prefer no faith). They have no need to mark their territory with symbols of their religion; it dwells immortal in their hearts.
 
Absolutely true. The nation wasn't founded as a theocracy. They're trying to make it one. The corporate oligarchs get these shitkicker Christians to vote squarely against their own financial best interests by pandering to their lunatic religious superstitions and their psycho need to be armed to the teeth with military assault weapons. It doesn't affect the oligarchs. Their wives and daughters can still get all the abortions and all the narcotics that they want, and they don't have to go near the unwashed cretins carrying the AR15s.

It's actually terrifying to see how dumb so many Americans are. Our only hope is to let New England, New York, and California run everything. Allowing shit kickers political influence is what's put us in the toilet we're in now.

And Trump's newest "fixer" attorney is all on board..

Bill Barr Delivers Bizarre Speech At Notre Dame, Says ‘Militant’ Teachers, Progressives Are Out To Get Jesus

Barr delivered what might very fairly be described as a wholly unnerving speech at Notre Dame’s law school on Friday.

The South Bend Tribune previewed the event earlier in the week, noting that it was “exclusively for law school students and faculty, and students associated with the university’s de Nicola Center for Ethics and Culture”.

The talk wasn’t open to the public, so the university didn’t publicized it, Notre Dame spokesman Dennis Brown said, adding that Barr would speak on “religious freedom”. Here is a clip from Barr’s speech:

“Among the militant secularists are so-called progressives”, Barr said, on the way to asking what, if not Christianity, can “fill the void in the hearts of the individual person”.

Barr then said this:

This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion and traditional values.

https://heisenbergreport.com/2019/1...ressives-are-out-to-get-jesus/comment-page-1/

Evil corrupt sock-cucking charlatan!

Full video at the link.
 
Nice work.

I believe you can always spot the fake Christians by how shamelessly they wear their "faith" on their sleeve, how brazenly they run their mouths about their religion and run down other faith traditions, and how eager they are to leap onto their moral high horse.

The ones who don't lash out just let it fester until they finally do. Being angry at the righteous satisfies the ego more easily than adjusting beliefs to fit the evidence.
Plus the time the self righteous spend holding back their bile develops more fuel for satisfying their persecution appetite and distracts from the fact that their enemy is right and they
are wrong. Reguritated hate, if you will. Like cows with 4 stomachs.

The whole Christian supernatural framework is a joke, and they know it. If they conceded it like a math problem, they could move on. To me it is like a math problem,
I see completely how stupid it is and they therefore are, and am OK with their mistake. They can take dumb to their graves. Keep my children out of that.
 
The ones who don't lash out just let it fester until they finally do. Being angry at the righteous satisfies the ego more easily than adjusting beliefs to fit the evidence.
Plus the time the self righteous spend holding back their bile develops more fuel for satisfying their persecution appetite and distracts from the fact that their enemy is right and they are wrong. Reguritated hate, if you will. Like cows with 4 stomachs.

The whole Christian supernatural framework is a joke, and they know it. If they conceded it like a math problem, they could move on. To me it is like a math problem,
I see completely how stupid it is and they therefore are, and am OK with their mistake. They can take dumb to their graves. Keep my children out of that.


Deep in the 420-plus pages of the tax reform bill that Republicans are trying to squeeze through Congress are a few lines that would allow some tax-exempt organizations like churches and charities to endorse or oppose political candidates without fear of government blowback.

Repealing what is known in the tax code as the Johnson Amendment is, to many, a dangerous and radical stomping on the long-held line that separates church from state. The repeal could lead, many warn, to politicking from the pulpit and an unprecedented flow of tax-free political money into houses of worship and charities.

Maybe even worse, the big-bucks windfall, some fear, could force these organizations — known by their tax code standing, 501(c)(3)s — into taking sides in an increasingly partisan nation.

It's a dire prediction because, if you can't get away from politics at your local soup kitchen or neighborhood church, where can you go?

President Donald Trump has stumped for the measure, framing it in First Amendment terms earlier in 2017 when he said, "I will get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution." Well-funded right-wing groups like Ralph Reed's Faith & Freedom Coalition and the Alliance Defending Freedom have backed him, and are pressuring Congress to include a repeal of the Johnson Amendment in the final version of the tax reform bill.

On the other side of the debate are more than 4,000 faith leaders, more than 100 religious groups (including Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, several Baptist groups, the Episcopal Church, the American Jewish Committee and the Seventh-day Adventist Church in North America) and more than 5,000 nonprofits that are in favor of keeping the Johnson Amendment, which has been part of the tax code for more than 60 years.

"The groups that are directly impacted [by the proposal] are all telling Congress not to do this. And that should tell us something," says Amanda Tyler, the executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty. "And it's not just Washington groups. It's constituents across the country who are raising real concerns about what this would do to their communities."

How the Johnson Amendment Works
Introduced in 1954 by then Texas Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson, the Johnson Amendment limits what tax-exempt organizations can do insofar as participating in or intervening in elections. The thinking behind the original amendment was this: If a group is getting public money (in the form of a tax break), that group shouldn't be able to use that money to try to influence elections.

Some object to that idea as a governmental overstep, favored tax status or not.

"There is an issue of principle here, that the government should not be influencing what clergy do during worship services, for example. The government shouldn't be reviewing a pastor's sermon to see whether or not he or she is endorsing a candidate for public office," Alan E. Brownstein, a law professor at the University of California, Davis, tells HowStuffWorks. "The government should just keep its nose out of what happens in a house of worship. The other purpose or goal [of a repeal] is to facilitate the political involvement of these churches in political campaigns."

Increasingly, influential right-wing groups, feeling stymied by the Johnson Amendment in trying to get candidates who they favor into office, have argued that tax-exempt status shouldn't hinge on what a pastor or rabbi says. They, like Trump, cry free speech foul.

"It's very frustrating. It makes me crazy," Maggie Garrett, the legislative director for Americans United, says. Americans United is (according to its website) "For Separation of Church and State." The group opposes messing with the Johnson Amendment.

"The Johnson Amendment doesn't say that churches and religious organizations can't have a voice in politics. From the pulpit you can preach on all sorts of social issues. You can talk for or against abortion being legal. You can talk about LGBT rights or the opposite end. You can talk about all these issues," Garrett says. "It's really not about whether you can be engaged in politics. It's really about whether or not you can be engaged in elections."

The right disagrees. "Under current law, spending one dime on politics out of hundreds of millions of dollars or making one political comment is the death penalty for that nonprofit," the Faith & Freedom Coalition's Reed told the Wall Street Journal.

What Repealing It Could Do
The proposed repeal isn't really a repeal. It is, in its words, "qualifying" the Johnson Amendment. Here's the exact text. (We added italics at the end to indicate the major change in the wording.)

Current law: Under current law, an entity exempt from tax under Code section 501(c)(3) is prohibited from "participating in, or intervening in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."

Provision: Under the provision, this language, known as the Johnson amendment, is qualified so that an organization exempt from tax under Code section 501(c)(3) would not fail to be treated as organized and operated exclusively for its respective non-profit purpose for engaging in political speech, assuming such political speech is made in the ordinary course of the organization's business and the associated expenses of that speech are de minimis.
The proposal is a bit nebulous. What is "the ordinary course" of business? What are "associated expenses?" What constitutes "de minimis" (which, basically, means "small potatoes")?

Certainly, proponents of a repeal read the wording as a green light for churches and charities to endorse a candidate without fear of losing tax-exempt status. Opponents read: limitless money, never-ending politicking, neighbor against neighbor, congregant against congregant.

"It can be very, very hard for a house of worship that really doesn't want to play this political game to stay silent if other houses of worship are endorsing their candidates. It becomes much more difficult for a house of worship who'd like to stay out of the fray," Brownstein says. "You repeal it, you politicize houses of worship and other charities as well."

All this partisan bickering could take place in what has been seen by many — perhaps naively — as safe spaces free of politics and the stain of money.

"I think there's a sense among a lot of religious people and clergy that they want people to be able to come together in their houses of worship and put some of the political tensions and disagreements aside. Leave it at the door," Brownstein says. "To the extent that you see this country being politicized and torn apart through all these political issues, I think a lot of people see a house of worship as a sanctuary."

The Cost of Repeal
As with all things politics, money plays a huge part in this debate. According to Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation, the provision to re-work the Johnson Amendment would cost the country $2.1 billion from 2018 to 2027. The JCT figures money from political donors that normally would be taxed would instead flow, tax free and virtually unlimited, into 501(c)(3) groups.

The provision also could be bad news for a lot of charities and nonprofits who have built their organizations and reputations on rising above partisan politics.

"Charities and foundations have worked for years, decades and centuries to build the public's trust," Tim Delaney, president of the National Council of Nonprofits, told the Wall Street Journal, "and we don't want to be dragged down by toxic partisanship."

The fear of big-money donors demanding endorsements in return for contributions — a new altar for getting behind Candidate Y, an extra million for sick kids in exchange for an op-ed on the website favoring Candidate X — is very real among those who oppose a Johnson Amendment repeal.

"In many ways, [houses of worship are] one of the last truly ideologically politically diverse places in our society for people to gather. We want to preserve that and protect it," Tyler says. "And the same is true for our broader nonprofit charitable community, that people come together for the sake of a mission they believe in regardless of who they vote for. That kind of solidarity and community could really be destroyed by this change."
 
She reminds me of the PTL Club, back in the 80s. She's milking her followers dry and living a lavish life style, just like Trump.

 
The ones who don't lash out just let it fester until they finally do. Being angry at the righteous satisfies the ego more easily than adjusting beliefs to fit the evidence.
Plus the time the self righteous spend holding back their bile develops more fuel for satisfying their persecution appetite and distracts from the fact that their enemy is right and they
are wrong. Reguritated hate, if you will. Like cows with 4 stomachs.

The whole Christian supernatural framework is a joke, and they know it. If they conceded it like a math problem, they could move on. To me it is like a math problem,
I see completely how stupid it is and they therefore are, and am OK with their mistake. They can take dumb to their graves. Keep my children out of that.

I agree that religions should not be forced on anyone, that our government and constitution need to be secular.

I do not agree that Christianity is a joke. The scientific method is only one manifestation of the human experience. There are other ways to experience human existence. Whether or not there is a scientific basis for the parables found in the Bible, I have seen many instances where a genuine and devout Christian piety has intangible benefits to many people.
 
I agree that religions should not be forced on anyone, that our government and constitution need to be secular.

I do not agree that Christianity is a joke. The scientific method is only one manifestation of the human experience. There are other ways to experience human existence. Whether or not there is a scientific basis for the parables found in the Bible, I have seen many tangible instances where a genuine and devout Christian piety has intangible benefits to many people.

It is impossible to force someone to believe, that is a farcical argument! You can maybe force them to say it, but you can't force true faith, quit with this lie!
 
Paula White: Christians Must Vote For Trump Because His Judges Won’t Let States Outlaw the Bible

By Kyle Mantyla | October 18, 2019 2:18 pm
Paula White, a televangelist who is a key spiritual adviser to and supporter of President Donald Trump, appeared on “The Jim Bakker Show” today, where she declared that Christians will stand accountable before God if they don’t vote for Trump in 2020, because he is filling the federal judiciary with judges who will not allow states to outlaw the Bible.

“We were left 170 lower court [vacancies],” White said. “President Trump immediately went to work with his legal counsel, put the best legal counsel together to be able to push through these lower court [judges] in your 9th and your 11th Districts.”

“We’re going to lose the freedom of America soon,” Bakker replied. “This election is so important. It just scares me, what is going on.”

“It’s vital,” White agreed. “Two Supreme Court justices. We know we’ll have a third one, we just need the time. But it is very potential that we could have a fourth or even a fifth.”

White said that Christians must turn to their Bibles and see “what does the word of God say, and where do I line up on policy?”

Even if they personally dislike Trump, she warned, “you’re going to have a make a decision that won’t be just held accountable here for how things turn out for you, your children, your grandchildren, but you’re going to have to stand accountable before God one day.”

“If we can change the Supreme Court,” White said, “you don’t think all Hell is trembling right now?”

“They have already passed legislation in states that says the Bible is a book of hate speech,” she baselessly claimed. “It is only a matter of time. Those laws are already passed.


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Televangelists are the fakest Christians you can get. They don't run a church they run a business scheme. Outlawing the Bible is such a fake thing. You literally can't outlaw it so anyone making that claim is crying out the psychobabble version of wolf.
 
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Absolutely true. The nation wasn't founded as a theocracy. They're trying to make it one. The corporate oligarchs get these shitkicker Christians to vote squarely against their own financial best interests by pandering to their lunatic religious superstitions and their psycho need to be armed to the teeth with military assault weapons. It doesn't affect the oligarchs. Their wives and daughters can still get all the abortions and all the narcotics that they want, and they don't have to go near the unwashed cretins carrying the AR15s.

It's actually terrifying to see how dumb so many Americans are. Our only hope is to let New England, New York, and California run everything. Allowing shit kickers political influence is what's put us in the toilet we're in now.

:) hahahaha ... Yeah. Electoral College ... Bad Idea.
 
They hold Meetings every Sunday, ... and collect Money.



Deep in the 420-plus pages of the tax reform bill that Republicans are trying to squeeze through Congress are a few lines that would allow some tax-exempt organizations like churches and charities to endorse or oppose political candidates without fear of government blowback.

Repealing what is known in the tax code as the Johnson Amendment is, to many, a dangerous and radical stomping on the long-held line that separates church from state. The repeal could lead, many warn, to politicking from the pulpit and an unprecedented flow of tax-free political money into houses of worship and charities.

Maybe even worse, the big-bucks windfall, some fear, could force these organizations — known by their tax code standing, 501(c)(3)s — into taking sides in an increasingly partisan nation.

It's a dire prediction because, if you can't get away from politics at your local soup kitchen or neighborhood church, where can you go?

President Donald Trump has stumped for the measure, framing it in First Amendment terms earlier in 2017 when he said, "I will get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution." Well-funded right-wing groups like Ralph Reed's Faith & Freedom Coalition and the Alliance Defending Freedom have backed him, and are pressuring Congress to include a repeal of the Johnson Amendment in the final version of the tax reform bill.

On the other side of the debate are more than 4,000 faith leaders, more than 100 religious groups (including Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, several Baptist groups, the Episcopal Church, the American Jewish Committee and the Seventh-day Adventist Church in North America) and more than 5,000 nonprofits that are in favor of keeping the Johnson Amendment, which has been part of the tax code for more than 60 years.

"The groups that are directly impacted [by the proposal] are all telling Congress not to do this. And that should tell us something," says Amanda Tyler, the executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty. "And it's not just Washington groups. It's constituents across the country who are raising real concerns about what this would do to their communities."

How the Johnson Amendment Works
Introduced in 1954 by then Texas Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson, the Johnson Amendment limits what tax-exempt organizations can do insofar as participating in or intervening in elections. The thinking behind the original amendment was this: If a group is getting public money (in the form of a tax break), that group shouldn't be able to use that money to try to influence elections.

Some object to that idea as a governmental overstep, favored tax status or not.

"There is an issue of principle here, that the government should not be influencing what clergy do during worship services, for example. The government shouldn't be reviewing a pastor's sermon to see whether or not he or she is endorsing a candidate for public office," Alan E. Brownstein, a law professor at the University of California, Davis, tells HowStuffWorks. "The government should just keep its nose out of what happens in a house of worship. The other purpose or goal [of a repeal] is to facilitate the political involvement of these churches in political campaigns."

Increasingly, influential right-wing groups, feeling stymied by the Johnson Amendment in trying to get candidates who they favor into office, have argued that tax-exempt status shouldn't hinge on what a pastor or rabbi says. They, like Trump, cry free speech foul.

"It's very frustrating. It makes me crazy," Maggie Garrett, the legislative director for Americans United, says. Americans United is (according to its website) "For Separation of Church and State." The group opposes messing with the Johnson Amendment.

"The Johnson Amendment doesn't say that churches and religious organizations can't have a voice in politics. From the pulpit you can preach on all sorts of social issues. You can talk for or against abortion being legal. You can talk about LGBT rights or the opposite end. You can talk about all these issues," Garrett says. "It's really not about whether you can be engaged in politics. It's really about whether or not you can be engaged in elections."

The right disagrees. "Under current law, spending one dime on politics out of hundreds of millions of dollars or making one political comment is the death penalty for that nonprofit," the Faith & Freedom Coalition's Reed told the Wall Street Journal.

What Repealing It Could Do
The proposed repeal isn't really a repeal. It is, in its words, "qualifying" the Johnson Amendment. Here's the exact text. (We added italics at the end to indicate the major change in the wording.)

Current law: Under current law, an entity exempt from tax under Code section 501(c)(3) is prohibited from "participating in, or intervening in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."

Provision: Under the provision, this language, known as the Johnson amendment, is qualified so that an organization exempt from tax under Code section 501(c)(3) would not fail to be treated as organized and operated exclusively for its respective non-profit purpose for engaging in political speech, assuming such political speech is made in the ordinary course of the organization's business and the associated expenses of that speech are de minimis.
The proposal is a bit nebulous. What is "the ordinary course" of business? What are "associated expenses?" What constitutes "de minimis" (which, basically, means "small potatoes")?

Certainly, proponents of a repeal read the wording as a green light for churches and charities to endorse a candidate without fear of losing tax-exempt status. Opponents read: limitless money, never-ending politicking, neighbor against neighbor, congregant against congregant.

"It can be very, very hard for a house of worship that really doesn't want to play this political game to stay silent if other houses of worship are endorsing their candidates. It becomes much more difficult for a house of worship who'd like to stay out of the fray," Brownstein says. "You repeal it, you politicize houses of worship and other charities as well."

All this partisan bickering could take place in what has been seen by many — perhaps naively — as safe spaces free of politics and the stain of money.

"I think there's a sense among a lot of religious people and clergy that they want people to be able to come together in their houses of worship and put some of the political tensions and disagreements aside. Leave it at the door," Brownstein says. "To the extent that you see this country being politicized and torn apart through all these political issues, I think a lot of people see a house of worship as a sanctuary."

The Cost of Repeal
As with all things politics, money plays a huge part in this debate. According to Congress' Joint Committee on Taxation, the provision to re-work the Johnson Amendment would cost the country $2.1 billion from 2018 to 2027. The JCT figures money from political donors that normally would be taxed would instead flow, tax free and virtually unlimited, into 501(c)(3) groups.

The provision also could be bad news for a lot of charities and nonprofits who have built their organizations and reputations on rising above partisan politics.

"Charities and foundations have worked for years, decades and centuries to build the public's trust," Tim Delaney, president of the National Council of Nonprofits, told the Wall Street Journal, "and we don't want to be dragged down by toxic partisanship."

The fear of big-money donors demanding endorsements in return for contributions — a new altar for getting behind Candidate Y, an extra million for sick kids in exchange for an op-ed on the website favoring Candidate X — is very real among those who oppose a Johnson Amendment repeal.

"In many ways, [houses of worship are] one of the last truly ideologically politically diverse places in our society for people to gather. We want to preserve that and protect it," Tyler says. "And the same is true for our broader nonprofit charitable community, that people come together for the sake of a mission they believe in regardless of who they vote for. That kind of solidarity and community could really be destroyed by this change."
 
keep your sick sexual fantasies out of this debate

To do that with that cunt wouldn't be a fantasy, it would be a nightmarish punishment. Dogs won't fuck that bitch even though she's tried to live out her fantasies of it.
 
Known worldwide for my pharisaical adherence to logical structure, I hasten to mention that if someone has to pay for something, then a salary is of concern, no?:thinking:
You know, just taking your comment at face value.

Can't you rubes even insult people properly?

Not a salary for the one doing the paying to be fucked and that was the point of the comment.

Can't you niggers understand anything? If it doesn't involve producing bastard babies, whining about someone taking advantage of you, or complaining about reparations, you're not interested in paying attention.
 
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