Melania came to US at 26

Obama wasn't a Social Democrat, he was a Capitalist with some pretty right-wing policies. He was also pro-war. If he was a Republican, you'd love him.

Nothing right wing about Obamacare, fags marrying, or anything else he supported.

If he wasn't black, you wouldn't kiss his ass.
 
That was before the party switch. Back then the Democrats were the Conservatives.
Today's Democrats want Fox News Socialism, which is not slavery.



Most of them? No way. The Hippies were well known but still a small counter-culture. Most Boomers hated them.

Not the ones that I know or have known.
 
My evidence is all around. America has been getting more liberal with every generation. If you were right, and kids became more conservative as they grew up, America would have remained conservative.

That's not called evidence; it's called an opinion.
 
can she be trusted to actually love this nation more than Slovenia?
How could she prove it?

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It's not an opinion that America has gotten more liberal. I already gave you a list of things that used to be considered liberal, but then were accepted by society, and are now seen as normal.

No you didn't. You regurgitated some ridiculous theory that the political parties "switched".
 
No you didn't. You regurgitated some ridiculous theory that the political parties "switched".

That's a fact, which you probably already know.

But even if you're going to pretend that's not true, what about everything else? What about women voting and gay marriage? Those used to be considered far left ideas. Today they're considered normal.
 
That's a fact, which you probably already know.

But even if you're going to pretend that's not true, what about everything else? What about women voting and gay marriage? Those used to be considered far left ideas. Today they're considered normal.

Your theory is a myth, which you probably already knew.

Women suffrage was a GOP initiative just like eliminating slavery and segregation: civil rights, all fought viciously by the Democrat Party. Those were considered constitutional then, as now.

Gay marriage will never be considered normal and was brought about by judicial fiat. Now look what's happening with the Supreme Court...
 
Your theory is a myth, which you probably already knew.

Women suffrage was a GOP initiative just like eliminating slavery and segregation: civil rights, all fought viciously by the Democrat Party. Those were considered constitutional then, as now.

Gay marriage will never be considered normal and was brought about by judicial fiat. Now look what's happening with the Supreme Court...

Alright, so you're going to lie to yourself about ending slavery, ending segregation, and women suffrage all being liberal ideas. But it seems like you're willing to accept that gay marriage is a liberal idea. Well, today most of the Right has accepted gay marriage. Maybe you'll never consider it normal because you're a pussy, but most Americans do.
 
Alright, so you're going to lie to yourself about ending slavery, ending segregation, and women suffrage all being liberal ideas. But it seems like you're willing to accept that gay marriage is a liberal idea. Well, today most of the Right has accepted gay marriage. Maybe you'll never consider it normal because you're a pussy, but most Americans do.

clock out operative, you're runnin on fumes.
 
Alright, so you're going to lie to yourself about ending slavery, ending segregation, and women suffrage all being liberal ideas. But it seems like you're willing to accept that gay marriage is a liberal idea. Well, today most of the Right has accepted gay marriage. Maybe you'll never consider it normal because you're a pussy, but most Americans do.

Actually, I'll let you lie to yourself that the definition of liberal hasn't changed throughout history. The Founders were liberal. The Constitution was a liberalization of the concept of government.

My political philosophy, m o d e r n c o n s e r v a t i s m, adheres to those ideals.

You can cry and scream and call me names and stamp your feet all day long but that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about your "switched" theory.
 
Actually, I'll let you lie to yourself that the definition of liberal hasn't changed throughout history. The Founders were liberal. The Constitution was a liberalization of the concept of government.

My political philosophy, m o d e r n c o n s e r v a t i s m, adheres to those ideals.

You can cry and scream and call me names and stamp your feet all day long but that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong about your "switched" theory.

I know the definition has changed, I'm talking about the concept. What used to be considered left-wing eventually became accepted by 90% of society as is now claimed by the Right.
This convo is a perfect example. Society became so liberal, that you refuse to admit that at one point, the Right didn't want to end slavery or let women vote.
 
I know the definition has changed, I'm talking about the concept. What used to be considered left-wing eventually became accepted by 90% of society as is now claimed by the Right.
This convo is a perfect example. Society became so liberal, that you refuse to admit that at one point, the Right didn't want to end slavery or let women vote.

You mean society has become more in line with the social concepts of the Constitution. Less government intervention in our lives. State government leading the federal instead of the opposite. Freedom of speech. Freedom of expression. Freedom of association.

Example: cannabis. It is illegal throughout the US according to federal law. States are telling the Feds to pound sand.
 
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