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archives said:
Not quite what Star said, he did imply that Sondland's testimony of not being able to see the records of his own phone calls and documents made a strong case of obstruction, but he added that he'd be anxious to see if the Republicans can offer something to challenge this position, kinda of middle ground

The other FOX "contributors" and regulars were pretty much scrambling, the only thing they concurred on was that Sondland was covering Sondland's ass. Surely one of the Trump lackeys will give them a talking point they can mobilize this afternoon
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Nunes tried


but his efforts were sooo pathetic no one is repeating them

there is nothing they can say but out right lies
 
archives said:
"truthie" just can't accept the fact that the Democrats have only been at it for ten months now, what occurred previously was headed by a Republican authorized by a Trump Republican appointee and overseen by a Trump Justice Dept.. If the democrats were during it it probably would have turned out a bit different
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they would not have mischaracterized the results and hidden it for a month
 
Jim Jordan always summarizes so well,

so now Schifty Schiff throws the mic to a minority / woman token question

Does this "woman" Sewell look like someone who you want on your team? notsomuch :rofl2:
 
Jarod said:
WOW, Ken Star, a forever Trumpper just said this is over!

This guy has been speaking the party line for months.....


He says the Democrats have three articles of impeachment clearly viable.
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No one ever doubted that the Stalin-o-crats would file for impeachment.


I'll be sure to thank them for handing us 2020....
 
Jarod said:
WOW, Ken Star, a forever Trumpper just said this is over!

This guy has been speaking the party line for months.....


He says the Democrats have three articles of impeachment clearly viable.
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Another FACE plant. Funny as hell. Like a monkey attempting to screw a football....nothing illegal about a POTUS establishing foreign policy and implementing it. Game over. :bigthink:

A few facts in evidence. The aid was delivered......Ukraine never started an investigation, and the presidents of both nations are on record declaring there was nothing wrong with the conditions of the aid. In fact Trump delivered the aid to Ukraine that Obama never did.....actual weapons for self defense instead of solar blankets. The corruption that Trump is demanding to be investigated is the USE of the 1.5 billion aid package delivered under the Obama Regime, its disappeared...that is what RUDY was investigating...corruption from 2016.

For bribery, extortion, or a Quid Pro Quo....there must be something of value exchanged between the parties. The aid was delivered.....there was never an investigation started . Where is the BEEF..the Quid for the Quo? The Bribery? .....as the witness stated very clearly, "I "PRESUMED" there was a Quid Pro Quo, but I have no direct evidence of such....President Trump stated that He did not want anything from Ukraine except a promise to attempt to control the corruption in that nation. 1.5 Billion dollars had already disappeared with nothing but Blankets to show for it.

FACE PLANT. More hearsay.
 
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Jordan pressing Sondland now, about why he did not include Trump's statement saying "I want nothing" from Ukraine in his opening statement.
Sondland says he did not mean to omit that from his opener. :palm:
 
Sondland:
Asked Trump. "What do your want from Ukraine?"
Trump said, "I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo.
Tell Zelensky to do the right thing."

Sondland told Pencelneck that was all I got from Pres. Trump.

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CNN now has another fake news headline out there............losers.
Per CNN: WITNESS IMPLICATES TRUMP
Just now Sondland testified in agreement with Turner...

No one on this planet told him that President Trump was tying aid
to 2016, Burisma or Biden investigations. He was only presuming.

"2 presumptions + 2 presumptions does not equal 1 fact."
Rep. Dr. Wenstrup 11/19/19
 
Centerleftfl said:
Blowjobs or extorting a foreign country using a half bill $ in taxpayer allotted funds while that country's soldiers died. All to get dirt on a US political opponent who is also an ex VP of the United States.

Yep, lying about BLOWJOBS is soooo much more sinister and dire than EXTORTION.
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who's son is on the take from an actually corrupt Ukrainian company...
 
Ralph said:
Another FACE plant. Funny as hell. Like a monkey attempting to screw a football....nothing illegal about a POTUS establishing foreign policy and implementing it. Game over. :bigthink:

A few facts in evidence. The aid was delivered......Ukraine never started an investigation, and the presidents of both nations are on record declaring there was nothing wrong with the conditions of the aid. In fact Trump delivered the aid to Ukraine that Obama never did.....actual weapons for self defense instead of solar blankets. The corruption that Trump is demanding to be investigated is the USE of the 1.5 billion aid package delivered under the Obama Regime, its disappeared...that is what RUDY was investigating...corruption from 2016.

For bribery, extortion, or a Quid Pro Quo....there must be something of value exchanged between the parties. The aid was delivered.....there was never an investigation started . Where is the BEEF..the Quid for the Quo? The Bribery? .....as the witness stated very clearly, "I "PRESUMED" there was a Quid Pro Quo, but I have no direct evidence of such....President Trump stated that He did not want anything from Ukraine except a promise to attempt to control the corruption in that nation. 1.5 Billion dollars had already disappeared with nothing but Blankets to show for it.

FACE PLANT. More hearsay.
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Another one, all of that was done after Trump realized the whistleblower complaint was serious and on its way to Congress, Trump had been caught, the scheme to get the Ukraine to investigate his political rival was out of the bag, he has to quit on his scheme

And before you go there, so was the tape the Trumpkins keep recycling of the Ukrainian President saying "no pressure"
 
dukkha said:
Jordan pressing Sondland now, about why he did not include Trump's statement saying "I want nothing" from Ukraine in his opening statement.
Sondland says he did not mean to omit that from his opener. :palm:
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Probably cause the statement means nothing, it came long after Trump had been caught, by that time his scheme to get the Ukrainians to investigate Biden was blown
 
archives said:
Another one, all of that was done after Trump realized the whistleblower complaint was serious and on its way to Congress, Trump had been caught, the scheme to get the Ukraine to investigate his political rival was out of the bag, he has to quit on his scheme

And before you go there, so was the tape the Trumpkins keep recycling of the Ukrainian President saying "no pressure"
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Where is the evidence? A "presumption" is not evidence. FACE PLANT. nothing. ;) Shitless' star witness confessed that Mr. Trump did not want anything from Ukraine.... That's not hearsay, that's a witness stating what was said in a phone Conversation with Mr. Trump. Quote "I asked President Trump exactly what he wanted from Ukraine......nothing was the replay, I want nothing....who told you there was a Quid Pro Quo...there is no Quid Pro Quo...……" :bigthink:

This witness is going in circles....attempting to over his own ass, he has no evidence of anything......he stated he PRESUMED the aid was tied to some white house meeting between Trump and the Ukrainian president and supposed promise to look into that nations corruption problem involving the 2016 election cycle...….

The evidence proves that PRESUMPTION was not correct. The aid was delivered, Ukraine never began an investigation. There has to be an exchange of services or value for a Quid Pro Quo to exist....the Ukrainian president has stated that no pressure was placed upon to agree to anything....thus, no possible extortion, nothing received in the form of Value like the Biden family received when
Biden actually used a Quid Pro Quo....thus, NO BRIBERY by Mr. Trump
 
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Cypress said:
Congress authorized the money for Ukraine.
I do not believe Trump had the right or the authority to hold up the money unless Kiev investigated Trump's domestic political rival.
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He didn't hold it up for an investigation. :rolleyes:

Cypress said:
I think even you can see how wrong that is, because if Obama had done this to Mitt Romney in 2012, cons would be screaming bloody murder.
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#whataboutism :rolleyes:

Cypress said:
The fact that you and Trump spent weeks denying there was anything remotely like a quid pro quo also tells me that you and Trump, and a very fundamental level, know how wrong this was. Otherwise, why spend a month lying about it and misrepresenting it?
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It's not a denial; it's a FACT that there was no quid pro quo. Why continue all the lies? Because Schiff told you so?
 
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