SCHOOL SHOOTING, multiple victims-CA (doesn't even warrant 'honorable' mention here?)

RB 60 said:
Deer season starts here in PA the Monday after Thanksgiving. Our gun club is very busy with people sighting in their rifles.
Before we made it mandatory that only members are allowed on the property, there were some who would come and put
pie plates at the 50 yd. range and were satisfied if they hit it 3 or 4 out of 5 times off a bench rest. Myself, I'd put a
smaller target at the 100 yd. range and would go back home and load another box if I didn't hit it 5 of 5 times offhand.
I was always glad I hunted on private land, far from those others.
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Our gun club is the same here in Washington this time of year.
 
Penderyn said:
If you scatter the means of murder around like confetti, laws are meaningless, obviously, and the nastier children will get their hands on them.
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They did then, and they do now. What has changed?

* Did you know Billy the Kid shot his first man before he was 18? He legally owned those guns, too! That was in 1877.
* Did you know there are some 300 million guns in the United States, and only a few hundred of them have been involved in any murder or crime at all?
* Did you know that kids can get ahold of guns regardless of any 'age restriction' law?
* Did you know that kids can BUY guns regardless of any 'age restriction' law? (See your local drug dealer for details)

What has changed? The creation of 'gun free' zones. This is where the mass shootings occur. You don't hear of mass murders in gun ranges for a reason!
What has changed? The use of mind-altering drugs by various psychoquacks that result in homicidal and suicidal tendencies.
What has changed? The existence of the internet, almost instant infamy by doing something so heinous.
What has changed? The widespread destruction of the family, and the loss of fathers that would teach their sons and daughters to be more responsible for their own actions and to serve others, not kill them indiscriminately.
What has changed? The widespread unfamiliarity of guns. Most people learn about guns only through the movies (notoriously bad at portraying ANYTHING accurately). Movie actors use cap guns. The foley and other special effects are added afterwards. It has little to do with any real guns or their effects.
 
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Adolf_Twitler said:
FOR FUCK'S SAKE DUDE! LOL

If I concentrated on the behaviors of some of you idiots here in this crazy ass Right Wing NUT FARM forum- I would not allow a single one of you Right Wing idiots to have even a slingshot- or a dull knife- MUCH LESS AN ACTUAL FIREARM!

Judging by the behaviors I've seen here in this forum, you douche bags would kill each other- or end up shooting yourselves in your own asses!

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Of course, some of the control freaks here would have a heart attack if they walked into an empty room and found a gun sitting on a table. That, or they'd start to play with it and shoot themselves or someone else and start screaming "the gun made me do it!!!"

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Eagle-Eye said:
Ever notice the majority of shootings be it mass, drive by, or gang seem to happen in blue states and cities? Food for thought.
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Which tend to have stricter gun laws than places with fewer gun problems. They also tend to lean more towards drug and gang problems, which they need to focus on more than guns.

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Into the Night said:
They did then, and they do now. What has changed?

* Did you know Billy the Kid shot his first man before he was 18? He legally owned those guns, too! That was in 1877.
* Did you know there are some 300 million guns in the United States, and only a few hundred of them have been involved in any murder or crime at all?
* Did you know that kids can get ahold of guns regardless of any 'age restriction' law?
* Did you know that kids can BUY guns regardless of any 'age restriction' law? (See your local drug dealer for details)

What has changed? The creation of 'gun free' zones. This is where the mass shootings occur. You don't hear of mass murders in gun ranges for a reason!
What has changed? The use of mind-altering drugs by various psychoquacks that result in homicidal and suicidal tendencies.
What has changed? The existence of the internet, almost instant infamy by doing something so heinous.
What has changed? The widespread destruction of the family, and the loss of fathers that would teach their sons and daughters to be more responsible for their own actions and to serve others, not kill them indiscriminately.
What has changed? The widespread unfamiliarity of guns. Most people learn about guns only through the movies (notoriously bad at portraying ANYTHING accurately). Movie actors use cap guns. The foley and other special effects are added afterwards. It has little to do with any real guns or their effects.
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I do know that there are a lot more guns than people in the US, and vastly more than the number of sensible people. There is no other country in the world with anything like your mad obsession, and scarcely any rich countries that get anywhere near your murder rate. Go figure!
 
Penderyn said:
I do know that there are a lot more guns than people in the US, and vastly more than the number of sensible people. There is no other country in the world with anything like your mad obsession, and scarcely any rich countries that get anywhere near your murder rate. Go figure!
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Our murder rate here is quite low, about the same as Greenland (2019 figures). Meanwhile, Mexico, which outlaws most guns, has a rate 5 times ours.
 
Penderyn said:
If you have far more guns than people, (as you do, alone on the earth), you will soon have a lot fewer people. Build no walls - you'll need plenty of immigrants to bury the dead!
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Our murder rate is quite low. We have about the same number of guns as people in the United States.
 
Penderyn said:
I do know that there are a lot more guns than people in the US, and vastly more than the number of sensible people. There is no other country in the world with anything like your mad obsession, and scarcely any rich countries that get anywhere near your murder rate. Go figure!
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The usual paranoia about guns and your reference to "rich countries" is just an admission that gun control laws are irrelevant and that other factors are what count. Note that the U.S. has one of the lowest homicide rates in the Americas and the loosest gun laws. Our homicide rate is also below the world average. Your gun laws have done nothing but get a few more people killed.

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Penderyn said:
If you have far more guns than people, (as you do, alone on the earth), you will soon have a lot fewer people. Build no walls - you'll need plenty of immigrants to bury the dead!
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More paranoia. Our problem isn't guns, but significant wealth inequality. You'll find a stronger correlation between that and violent crime than you will with gun laws.

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Adolf_Twitler said:
My town was so redneck back in the late 60's when I finished High School, we had rifle racks in our pickups and went around with loaded deer rifles and shotguns hanging from the rear window. So basically the High School parking lot was full of loaded weapons. No one ever shot anyone. I never even saw any horseplay with guns- from any student. We actually feared our dads back in those days, and didn't want him to beat our ass for doing something stupid- especially with a gun.

But, that was a different time. As students, we just seemed more like adults when it came to guns, automobiles, jobs, manners, and responsibilities back in those days. High schoolers today seem like little kids as compared to who we were back then as basically young adults.

Even in this story, look at these High School children that were in this little circle- they look like grade schoolers to me.

Little boy gets his feelings hurt in a puppy love, so he kills 2, maims others and shoots himself over kid stuff.

Sad- I still do not believe the kid should have had access to the ACP or any other weapon. Careless parents!
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Police have not said who owned the semi-automatic handgun or how Berhow obtained it.
 
rjhenn said:
The usual paranoia about guns and your reference to "rich countries" is just an admission that gun control laws are irrelevant and that other factors are what count. Note that the U.S. has one of the lowest homicide rates in the Americas and the loosest gun laws. Our homicide rate is also below the world average. Your gun laws have done nothing but get a few more people killed.

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There was an article and I wish I had saved it; because it showed statistics where if 3 or 4 cities were removed from our "shooting numbers", the US would fall below several countries that liberals keep liking to refer to.
 
Into the Night said:
Our murder rate here is quite low, about the same as Greenland (2019 figures). Meanwhile, Mexico, which outlaws most guns, has a rate 5 times ours.
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Mexico is not a rich country and you are out of your tiny mind. Ask your Mummy to teach you about your gun-murder rate - compare it with the UK, for instance.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
There was an article and I wish I had saved it; because it showed statistics where if 3 or 4 cities were removed from our "shooting numbers", the US would fall below several countries that liberals keep liking to refer to.
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3 or 4 cities controlled by Democrats?
 
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