Started by Honest Abe. They are no joke.
Study debunks Democrat conspiracy theory about Russians stealing the election
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Started by Honest Abe. They are no joke.
But the framing of the study is, he didn't post the study, rather a right wing website's interpretation of the study, a common trait of right wing sources
I remember the NY Times stories about Russian interference which Trump and the Republicans denied but now admit. I don't remember the NYT claiming any votes were changed. That study seems to reinforce what we have long known about the influence of media and partisan propaganda. It doesn't change opinions of those most interested in politics and likely to read it.
Adolf_Twitler
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Donald Trump makes up stuff in his own mind, then tries to serve it up it to his crowd of leg-humping little chihuahuas that will believe anything he says.
For instance, he made up a story about Hillary deleting 30,000 Emails on her personal server she was using, that she personally deleted instead of turning them over to the FBI.
A little history on the matter- The FBI did tell Hillary they wanted to see any and all Emails on her server Email History file that were correspondence between her and all other government officials and concerning official government business. The FBI also told her that they were not interested in any of her emails with friends, or relatives or junk mail she received or sent. So the FBI told her to separate her personal Emails from her official work related emails and that was all they wanted to see. So that is what the FBI got. Exactly what they asked for.
But when the FBI did not discover any "Top Secret" emails among them, the FBI cleared Hillary of mishandling of any "Top Secret" information on her server or any kind of cover-up. Note* YES! James Comey announced on live TV that Hillary was found innocent of any wrongdoing- AND THEN MADE A PERSONAL COMMENT AND OBVIOUSLY A POLITICALLY BIASED OPINION THAT HE PERSONALLY FELT THAT 3 EMAILS ON HILLARY's SERVER should have been classified and said she should have known to not receive them or send them from her personal server and should have used her WHite House server for those.
But- the Emails he was questioning never had the proper "Official Top Secret" heading required to be called an official "Top Secret" document, and Comey's personal opinion he stated on the air was broadcasted to the public in the 11th hour of an election day just a few months away.
So it turned out that even the FBI Inspector General said that Comey misbehaved by stating his biased personal opinions about Hillary on a nationally broadcasted press release that late during the election and so he was reprimanded for his actions and he was the one whose judgement was now in question- INSTEAD OF HILLARY even though the damage to Hillary's campaign was already done by Comey.
Trump even used the event as the reason why he fired Comey- even though that turned out to be a damn lie as well, as evidence proved that Trump fired Comey because he wanted his own investigation to stop- AND HE WAS MAD AS HELL THAT COMEY FOUND HILLARY TO BE TOTALLY INNOCENT so this was a way to get even with the Comey.
Why did Comey want to say negative things about Hillary even when he found her to be inniocent of any crimes that she could be charged with? Well Comey goes all the way back to the White-water Hearings as he was the back-up prosecutor in the White-Water investigations, hearings and trials. Even after the special prosecutor found no wrong-doings by the Clinton's after 3 years of investigations and trials- Comey wouldn't let it go and for weeks went on news programs saying that he still believed the Clinton's were guilty of something. So Comey came up short by not being able to prosecute the Clintons, it made him look like a loser, and he took it personally.
It was Kenneth Star Chief prosecutor that told Comey- "Stop with the sour grapes- and stop with the crying about it on the air".
So 20 years later- Comey found a way to get even with Hillary by trying to slander her as being wreckless in handling her EMAILS right before election day as a way to hurt her campaign. DON'T FORGET COMEY IS A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN- SO he seemed to be biased and he showed that to the world when he used his privileged position to harm Hillary!
But- THERE WERE NEVER 30,000 EMAILS THAT HILLARY EVER DELETED FROM ANY SERVER!
This was totally a lie made up by Donald Trump!
WHO THE FUCK EVER HAS 30,000 Emails TOTAL on their EMAIL HISTORY!!
Let me tell you no one- That's who!
So this was just more ridiculous bullshit made up by DOnald Trump?
For instance, he made up a story about Hillary deleting 30,000 Emails on her personal server she was using, that she personally deleted instead of turning them over to the FBI.
A little history on the matter- The FBI did tell Hillary they wanted to see any and all Emails on her server Email History file that were correspondence between her and all other government officials and concerning official government business. The FBI also told her that they were not interested in any of her emails with friends, or relatives or junk mail she received or sent. So the FBI told her to separate her personal Emails from her official work related emails and that was all they wanted to see. So that is what the FBI got. Exactly what they asked for.
But when the FBI did not discover any "Top Secret" emails among them, the FBI cleared Hillary of mishandling of any "Top Secret" information on her server or any kind of cover-up. Note* YES! James Comey announced on live TV that Hillary was found innocent of any wrongdoing- AND THEN MADE A PERSONAL COMMENT AND OBVIOUSLY A POLITICALLY BIASED OPINION THAT HE PERSONALLY FELT THAT 3 EMAILS ON HILLARY's SERVER should have been classified and said she should have known to not receive them or send them from her personal server and should have used her WHite House server for those.
But- the Emails he was questioning never had the proper "Official Top Secret" heading required to be called an official "Top Secret" document, and Comey's personal opinion he stated on the air was broadcasted to the public in the 11th hour of an election day just a few months away.
So it turned out that even the FBI Inspector General said that Comey misbehaved by stating his biased personal opinions about Hillary on a nationally broadcasted press release that late during the election and so he was reprimanded for his actions and he was the one whose judgement was now in question- INSTEAD OF HILLARY even though the damage to Hillary's campaign was already done by Comey.
Trump even used the event as the reason why he fired Comey- even though that turned out to be a damn lie as well, as evidence proved that Trump fired Comey because he wanted his own investigation to stop- AND HE WAS MAD AS HELL THAT COMEY FOUND HILLARY TO BE TOTALLY INNOCENT so this was a way to get even with the Comey.
Why did Comey want to say negative things about Hillary even when he found her to be inniocent of any crimes that she could be charged with? Well Comey goes all the way back to the White-water Hearings as he was the back-up prosecutor in the White-Water investigations, hearings and trials. Even after the special prosecutor found no wrong-doings by the Clinton's after 3 years of investigations and trials- Comey wouldn't let it go and for weeks went on news programs saying that he still believed the Clinton's were guilty of something. So Comey came up short by not being able to prosecute the Clintons, it made him look like a loser, and he took it personally.
It was Kenneth Star Chief prosecutor that told Comey- "Stop with the sour grapes- and stop with the crying about it on the air".
So 20 years later- Comey found a way to get even with Hillary by trying to slander her as being wreckless in handling her EMAILS right before election day as a way to hurt her campaign. DON'T FORGET COMEY IS A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN- SO he seemed to be biased and he showed that to the world when he used his privileged position to harm Hillary!
But- THERE WERE NEVER 30,000 EMAILS THAT HILLARY EVER DELETED FROM ANY SERVER!
This was totally a lie made up by Donald Trump!
WHO THE FUCK EVER HAS 30,000 Emails TOTAL on their EMAIL HISTORY!!
Let me tell you no one- That's who!
So this was just more ridiculous bullshit made up by DOnald Trump?
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I could not agree more. Here is a primer for you. ^ Means one post above. ^^ Means two posts above. Just so happens your ^^ is your own post and is a correct self analysis.
The OP is more of a Russkie asset than Trump is. Multiple daily BS propaganda threads.
And did they change your opinion?
What did our intelligence say about Iraq and WMDs?
Mueller showed exactly how they did it and how big the Russian operation was. There is no doubt if you go by evidence, but that is always in discord to right-wing beliefs. The first half of the report makes it inarguably clear. There are 6 Trumpian people involved in his campaign who are in jail or charged. There are another 20 or so indicted. Trump was running a terrible crime wave against the American election system for his gain.
Hey look, another diversionary "attack the source" fallacy.
And you're attacking it with the discredited partisan propagandists who've been caught in lie after lie. Utterly meaningless smoke and mirrors to avoid the debate...Study Finds Fact Checkers Biased Against Republicans
But even playing along...so the independently verifiable link to the National Academy of the Sciences study provided in the article is...let me guess...a Russian conspiracy?
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Doesnt alter the conclusion. She lost by her own poor decisions.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Hey look, another diversionary "attack the source" fallacy.
And you're attacking it with the discredited partisan propagandists who've been caught in lie after lie. Utterly meaningless smoke and mirrors to avoid the debate...Study Finds Fact Checkers Biased Against Republicans
But even playing along...so the independently verifiable link to the National Academy of the Sciences study provided in the article is...let me guess...a Russian conspiracy?
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I guess fact-checkers are part of the DEEP STATE now.
Being blatantly dishonest and partisan means they have to be a part of the deep state? Um...sure.
Meanwhile, you were explaining how the study from the National Academy of the Sciences is right-wing propaganda (what actual conspiracy theorist spin looks like)?
With an independently verifiable link to the study right there in the article. Next crybaby excuse please.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Well, according to the Trumpcucks, anyone who criticizes Conservatives in any way is part of the Deep State.
A study being wrong isn't a conspiracy theory.
The NY Times knew a handful of Facebook posts in no way altered the votes of 139 million people. It's absurd on its face. But they intentionally led people to believe the outrageously stupid notion was plausible.
"No one can say whether it made the difference in an election decided by the tiniest of margins, fewer than 100,000 votes in three states [funny how they didn't spin it this way when Romney lost to Obama by similarly minuscule margins (with tons of Democrat cheating)...they only mentioned the Electoral College counts to make it look like a landslide]."
The Plot to Subvert an Election
The IG report, Comey's testimony, the physical evidence, the findings of multiple investigations...ALL of it completely contradicts this BS spin. There were over a hundred separate felonies identified. She intentionally destroyed evidence under subpoena. She deliberately jeopardized national security by setting up an illegal private server and putting tons of classified information on it (after repeatedly signing documents swearing that she knew it was a major federal crime and would never do it), and that Russia and the Chinese DID gain access to (funny how it's always Democrats who are actually advancing Russia's interests, contrary to everything they say)...all of this is a matter of record. The State Department, the FBI, the DOJ...all did their own investigations and reached the same conclusions.
If you're going to rush in and try to change the subject, at least do it with something that isn't such effortlessly debunked horse shit.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
From your link:
Even though we find no evidence that Russian trolls polarized the political attitudes and behaviors of partisan Twitter users in late 2017, these null effects should not diminish concern about foreign influence campaigns on social media because our analysis was limited to 1 population at a single point in time. We were unable to systematically determine whether IRA trolls influenced public attitudes or behavior during the 2016 presidential election, which is widely regarded as a critical juncture for misinformation campaigns. It is also possible that the Russian government’s campaign has evolved to become more impactful since the late-2017 period upon which we focused.
Now all the while one of the focal points of the Mueller investigation and subsequent intelligence agencies all point to INTERFERENCE AND ATTEMPTS TO COERCE....none stated that the Russians helped "steal the election" in Trump's favor. If you have a quote from the aforementioned agencies that states differently in no uncertain terms, then please produce it. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.
Again, as we see with this thread, the conservatives operate on facts, logic, and evidence, while the Democrats operate on unhinged emotional hysteria and conspiracy theories. Thanks again for demonstrating.
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