Study debunks Democrat conspiracy theory about Russians stealing the election
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CharacterAssassin
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I think "...a small handfull..." underestimates it a bit.
"WASHINGTON — Russian agents intending to sow discord among American citizens disseminated inflammatory posts that reached 126 million users on Facebook, published more than 131,000 messages on Twitter and uploaded over 1,000 videos to Google’s YouTube service, according to copies of prepared remarks from the companies that were obtained by The New York Times."
I'm not sure I see too much real difference between an ad claiming Hillary has a child sex ring placed by a group or individual from the U. S., England, or Russia and one sponsored by the Russian government on a platform like Facebook that allows fairly open free speech from anybody.
I don't like foreign governments seeking to influence our election, but I'm not sure if the consequences of such an ad are any different because of who placed them. Would some still see it as cheating if those ads had been placed by some American teenager sitting in his parent's basement than a Russian company?
Russia spent 1,5 million a month on the operation. They did not have to change millions. 3 states were settled bt 80,000 votes combined. It was an extremely close election that Russia won for Trump and they want to do it again.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I concur. The Academy can go fuck itself!
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
I'm going to have to call bullshit. You accused me of calling people Russian agents when I never did, so I think you're lying about other people doing it too.
Don't lie about who is being accused of being deep state and people won't have to set the record straight. Seems pretty straightforward.
I was joking when I brought up the Deep State. I was saying Trumpcucks always bring up the Deep State to defend Saint Trump.
it was a $ 1billion campaign. That's like nothing. and we do far worse meddling
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Ironically, the biggest Truth Bomb to come out of this colossal waste of time and taxpayer money by Democrats came in Fiona Hill’s closed door deposition in Schiff’s Dungeon.
There, *the Russian expert* claimed that Richard Steele was likely being fed disinformation by the Russians for his Dossier—that was then used, to get a FISA warrant to spy on an innocent US citizen. House Republicans comported themselves fairly well in the hearings except where they totally dropped the ball on this.
Ms. Hill should have been made to repeat that assertion to a televised audience. If I was there I’d make her repeat it just so all the viewers got the message.
Anyone who is *honestly* concerned about Russian meddling need look no farther than the Steele Dossier.
There, *the Russian expert* claimed that Richard Steele was likely being fed disinformation by the Russians for his Dossier—that was then used, to get a FISA warrant to spy on an innocent US citizen. House Republicans comported themselves fairly well in the hearings except where they totally dropped the ball on this.
Ms. Hill should have been made to repeat that assertion to a televised audience. If I was there I’d make her repeat it just so all the viewers got the message.
Anyone who is *honestly* concerned about Russian meddling need look no farther than the Steele Dossier.
aiding Ukrainian military could push Putin into a regional war - Fiona Hill
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...uld-push-Putin-into-a-regional-war-Fiona-Hill
^ Hill contradicts herself. Under Obama she opposed lethal weapons to Ukraine
Posts supporting Bernie Sanders, the Green Party, Trump, and anyone they thought might divide the country. Fortunately for their agenda, Democrats rushed in and served as the useful idiots the Russians needed, repeating their obviously phony disinformation for YEARS non-stop until the country was irreparably divided. And the study showed that these Facebook posts only reached people who already had strong opinions and had zero impact. The entire news media was running fake stories like this against Trump for a year straight before the election. Russia can't put a dent in what our own lying DNC propaganda mills do to steal elections (not to mention illegal immigrant voting). On foreign influence, being offended by this is very sudden and arbitrary. How many U.S. candidates have received donations just from the Saudis alone, for example? And the Clinton Foundation was literally DESIGNED to sell foreign policy influence to the highest bidder for illegal foreign campaign contributions. But again, the moment Trump can be (even falsely) accused of something that's standard practice throughout all of Washington, it suddenly becomes controversial.
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1) That's not how you characterized it when OBAMA barely won by narrow margins in three or four battleground states against Romney (with rampant Democrat cheating). Funny how Democrats portrayed THAT as a landslide, only bringing up the electoral college count...but now that it's someone they don't like, the same outcome is spun as a razor-thin margin.
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2) The National Academy of the Sciences study showed that they changed approximately ZERO votes. That's less than 80,000.
3) Democrats help illegal immigrants steal our elections and cheat at every turn in a myriad of ways. The actual margin of victory was nowhere near that close.
4) Hillary would have lost from prison if the FBI hadn't blatantly defied the law, broken its own regulations, and lied to protect her candidacy from the more than 100 separate felonies she was caught committing.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Well, that was one of many ‘revelations’[lol] to come out of this:
Oh gee, there’s varied opinions on the Russian/Ukraine issue in the State Department lol. And oh gee again, some of these unelected officials have ideological preferences. And omg, they disagree with Trump and agree with Obama.
Well, guess what. Obama is no longer President. Have I said this whole thing was a colossal waste of time yet?
It just amazes me. I oppose all this crap (Ukraine is not a "strategic partner") and Hills OP I cited did a good job of fleshing that out.
Except 'that was Obama and this is Trump' is the only "logic" i can see from her.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Well again, the only thing the ‘star witness’ said that matters to the price of Tea in China is that Steele ‘was likely being played by the Russians’.
One can only imagine the looks on some faces when that little nugget fell from the mouth of the *Russian expert* lol. And again, talk about a blown opportunity—why didn’t republicans press her on that in the open hearings?
Force the media to cover it.
Ah, the petty child's game of pretending that generalizations are personal accusations so you can peddle false accusations of lying.
Incidentally, here is you smearing conservatives as secret Russian agents: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...Lefty-robs-liquor-store&p=3215229#post3215229
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And I was responding by pointing out that correctly identifying deep state actors like McCabe, Comey, etc., is nothing like the ACTUAL use of this fallacy you're projecting whereby Democrats call everything they can't refute a Russian conspiracy. Comprehending it yet?
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EXACTLY. Democrats repeated Russian disinformation till they were blue in the face, accomplishing Putin's objective of dividing the country, like good little Russian pawns...all while hyperventilating about everyone else being secret Russian agents.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Ah, the petty child's game of pretending that generalizations are personal accusations so you can peddle false accusations of lying.
Incidentally, here is you smearing conservatives as secret Russian agents: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...Lefty-robs-liquor-store&p=3215229#post3215229
First of all, I was talking to ONE person. I didn't say Conservatives are Russian trolls.
Secondly, I was joking because Evmetro accuses other people of being Russian trolls. He's a total troll. As for being Russian, that's yet to be determined.
Prove to me that McCabe and Comey are part of the so-called Deep State.
I'm not a Democrat, so accusing me of this is pretty stupid, especially since I've never done it.
Adolf_Twitler
Verified User
The IG report, Comey's testimony, the physical evidence, the findings of multiple investigations...ALL of it completely contradicts this BS spin. There were over a hundred separate felonies identified. She intentionally destroyed evidence under subpoena. She deliberately jeopardized national security by setting up an illegal private server and putting tons of classified information on it (after repeatedly signing documents swearing that she knew it was a major federal crime and would never do it), and that Russia and the Chinese DID gain access to (funny how it's always Democrats who are actually advancing Russia's interests, contrary to everything they say)...all of this is a matter of record. The State Department, the FBI, the DOJ...all did their own investigations and reached the same conclusions.
If you're going to rush in and try to change the subject, at least do it with something that isn't such effortlessly debunked horse shit.
Dudy boy, you are far worse about making up shit and trying to lay down some shit than Donald Lying Trump!
No matter how much you perverts like to sniff Hillary's laundry- she has always- ALWAYS- came out smelling like a rose!
Now I know that Hillary's innocence doesn't play into your Hillary Hating narrative, but making shit up, slinging shit on the wall to see what sticks is nasty business because the shit just comes back on you!
And you trying to bring up Hillary is nothing more than you trying to distract all of the negative attention away from Donald Trump.
B-b-b-But Hillary! B-B-B-But Hillary!
What a dishonest person you are with some very bad strategy and motives!
evince
Truthmatters
NO SHIT
you are some racist
we don't accept racists
but I have to wonder why you pretend to believe in all the Democratic party ideas and retain your racist crap and hate of the Democratic party?
I know why russo bot hole