The Supreme Court just blew up the Obstruction of Congress charge.

[OG Yurt]

Lets pretend you have a scent of truth in Obama. What does that have to do with Trump's obstruction? Trump ordered his people to ignore subpoenas and court orders. Did Obama do that? Is it wrong that Trump is doing that? Do you care about the law at all, but just love the orange so much that you do not care what he does. Nixon obstructed justice. Was that a precedent for trump that makes it OK for him? Is that how berzerk you are?

It is called a scintilla of truth, not a scent of truth.

Tell me, why was Eric Holder held in contempt of Congress?

And it has everything to do with today's impeachment proceedings. It shows Democrats are dishonest. It shows they will allow a Democrat to supposedly obstruct Congress, but not a Republican President. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt their sham impeachment proceedings are nothing but political bullshit and nothing to do with the Constitution or their duty to represent the People.

 

[OG Yurt]

Exactly. This is why trump's fighting so hard to keep his returns hidden. Let's see if SCOTUS will uphold the law and enforce congress' subpoena. I'm certain Kavannah and Thomas will oppose congress' wishes.

I knew Democrats hated privacy, but you guys have lost it over Trump.

Fascist assholes.

 

[Althea]

Exactly. This is why trump's fighting so hard to keep his returns hidden. Let's see if SCOTUS will uphold the law and enforce congress' subpoena. I'm certain Kavannah and Thomas will oppose congress' wishes.

trump has lost this case twice already. SC has no option but to rule against trump. He's just trying to run out the clock

 

[Althea]

I knew Democrats hated privacy, but you guys have lost it over Trump.

Fascist assholes.

You lose all rights to privacy once you become a public official.

Or are you against Anthony Weiner's perversions being spread around?

 

[Althea]

It is called a scintilla of truth, not a scent of truth.

Tell me, why was Eric Holder held in contempt of Congress?

And it has everything to do with today's impeachment proceedings. It shows Democrats are dishonest. It shows they will allow a Democrat to supposedly obstruct Congress, but not a Republican President. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt their sham impeachment proceedings are nothing but political bullshit and nothing to do with the Constitution or their duty to represent the People.

I see that you too are confused in this thread. Said SC case has absolutely nothing to do with Congress, or impeachment.

 

[Grokmaster]

Hi, Friend. Let me introduce myself. I'm brand new the the forum but I understand that like me, you're a real Rachel Maddow fan

Regarding your post: Trump has claimed repeatedly that "he'd be glad to turn over his tax returns, but they're under audit". We all know that's a lie. Over the past 4 decades no presidential candidate or president has failed to make their tax returns public, yet trump has not only lied about being willing to turn them over, but has expended much time and money to keep them hidden. Why don't you have a problem with that?

If there were no issues with trump's financials, he'd turn them over. The information in them is obviously damning and we, his constituents have the right to know. Congress, certainly has the right to subpoena them and trump is breaking the law by withholding them.

NO ONE DISPUTES that TRUMP'S TAXES ARE UNDER AUDIT.....LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THE LIAR.


He releases a QUARTERLY FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT , WITHOUT FAIL....BUT LYING LEFTISTS and the FAKE NEWS CHOOSES TO IGNORE THAT FACT....

 

[Trump's Brain]

I knew Democrats hated privacy, but you guys have lost it over Trump.

Fascist assholes.

So.. you're ignoring trump's promise to turn them over voluntarily while fighting with everything he's got to keep the information hidden. To you, people are only "fascist assholes" if they're threatening your crime boss. You're behaving just like a mobster. I'll bet your parents are very proud.

 

[Trump's Brain]

NO ONE DISPUTES that TRUMP'S TAXES ARE UNDER AUDIT.....LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THE LIAR.


He releases a QUARTERLY FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT , WITHOUT FAIL....BUT LYING LEFTISTS and the FAKE NEWS CHOOSES TO IGNORE THAT FACT....

Being under audit is no reason not to turn them over. trump is lying and you're grasping at straws to rationalize his criminal behavior. If you had any shame you'd be ashamed of yourself.

I know this is beyond your ability, but try to look at the situation logically: If the information in the returns didn't expose his impropriety, such as millions owed to Russian oligarchs.. he's turn them over in a heartbeat.

Finally, I have a question for you: What does trump's seamen taste like? Lindsey Graham was asking.

 

[FastLane]

So.. you're ignoring trump's promise to turn them over voluntarily while fighting with everything he's got to keep the information hidden. To you, people are only "fascist assholes" if they're threatening your crime boss. You're behaving just like a mobster. I'll bet your parents are very proud.

Hey Brain! Good to see you! You seem to have forgotten he said he would release them AFTER his IRS audit was over.

1. Do you know if his audit is finished?

2. 2024 would presumably be after his IRS audit was over. Stop being so impatient.

 

[Trump's Brain]

trump has lost this case twice already. SC has no option but to rule against trump. He's just trying to run out the clock

<sigh> I hope you're right, but it's a Supreme court with a conservative majority now. Our current GOP congressmen and women are supposed to be preserving and defending the constitution instead of doing what they're doing now: trampling all over it.

 

[Trump's Brain]

Hey Brain! Good to see you! You seem to have forgotten he said he would release them AFTER his IRS audit was over.

1. Do you know if his audit is finished?

2. 2024 would presumably be after his IRS audit was over. Stop being so impatient.

Hey, Buddy!

Good to see you! I have the Rachel Maddow t-shirt you ordered.. I'll FedEx it to you tomorrow

Also:

1. trump is lying about his returns being under audit.
2. Even if his returns were under audit, there is no legal reason not to release them to the public and certainly no reason not to turn them over in response to congress' subpoena - "being under audit" is therefore a lame excuse even if true - which it most certainly isn't.

 

[FastLane]

<sigh> I hope you're right, but it's a Supreme court with a conservative majority now. Our current GOP congressmen and women are supposed to be preserving and defending the constitution instead of doing what they're doing now: trampling all over it.

If the Congress is just on a fishing trip the SC will rule against them and if the Congress can show a legitimate reason for having the records the SC will rule for them. Right now I'm inclined to think they are on a fishing trip.

 

[Trump's Brain]

If the Congress is just on a fishing trip the SC will rule against them and if the Congress can show a legitimate reason for having the records the SC will rule for them. Right now I'm inclined to think they are on a fishing trip.

I know, my friend. trump is fighting so hard to withhold his tax returns because he cares so deeply about the right to privacy. Just like he withheld aid to Ukraine because he cares to deeply about stamping out corruption

 

[FastLane]

I know, my friend. trump is fighting so hard to withhold his tax returns because he cares so deeply about the right to privacy. Just like he withheld aid to Ukraine because he cares to deeply about stamping out corruption

 

[FastLane]

Hey, Buddy!

Good to see you! I have the Rachel Maddow t-shirt you ordered.. I'll FedEx it to you tomorrow

Also:

1. trump is lying about his returns being under audit.
2. Even if his returns were under audit, there is no legal reason not to release them to the public and certainly no reason not to turn them over in response to congress' subpoena - "being under audit" is therefore a lame excuse even if true - which it most certainly isn't.

Oh boy oh boy is it the one with optional strap on?

1 Are you privy to Trump's audit information?


2 If Congress is just on a political fishing trip (they are) there is no legal reason for him to turn them over. The Constitution does not make turning tax records over a requirement for qualifying to become president. If you don't want to vote for a candidate that won't turn over his tax records...don't.

 

[Flash]

Being under audit is no reason not to turn them over. trump is lying and you're grasping at straws to rationalize his criminal behavior. If you had any shame you'd be ashamed of yourself.

I know this is beyond your ability, but try to look at the situation logically: If the information in the returns didn't expose his impropriety, such as millions owed to Russian oligarchs.. he's turn them over in a heartbeat.

Are you going to read the tax returns?

 

[Trump's Brain]

I admit many wouldn't but I do have an accounting background, so they would be meaningful to me, yes.

Why do you think trump is fighting so hard to keep his returns out of the public eye and out of the hands of congress?

 

[Trump's Brain]

Oh boy oh boy is it the one with optional strap on?

I didn't think you wanted anyone else knowing that!

1 Are you privy to Trump's audit information?

Of course not, but I've been an auditor, and no audit takes 3 years. You know he's lying about the "audit", my friend.

2 If Congress is just on a political fishing trip (they are) there is no legal reason for him to turn them over. The Constitution does not make turning tax records over a requirement for qualifying to become president. If you don't want to vote for a candidate that won't turn over his tax records...don't.

I don't see how you could know the legality of congress' right to subpoena the returns, my friend. Several courts disagree with you, and no offense, but I'll go with their legal expertise over yours.

Why do you think trump is expending so much time and money towards keeping his returns secret from both the public and from congress?

 

[OG Yurt]

You lose all rights to privacy once you become a public official.

Or are you against Anthony Weiner's perversions being spread around?

Are you fucking serious? Please cite any law that says that. Cite any SCOTUS case that says the fundamental right to privacy ends as soon as you become a public official.

That is more insane than anything I've heard, including Dumber's arguments.

Well there it is folks, if you run for office of Mayor or city council, you lose your right to privacy under a Democrat regime.

 

[OG Yurt]

I see that you too are confused in this thread. Said SC case has absolutely nothing to do with Congress, or impeachment.

You obviously have zero reading comprehension. Re read my post and refute what I said. You won't, because you can't.