Happy Impeachment Day, America! Trump's Nightmare Becomes Reality.

[Sirthinksalot]

Well it's a good thing you find it unbelievable because I didn't say it.

Hi Politalker,

Actually I said I found it believable, not unbelievable.

President Trump* has only gotten what he dished out. Can't he take it? He starts fights. He runs around insulting good people and expects he won't be called out for it? That's not 'attacking Trump*. That's defending the good name of good people. Good people as in people who don't have thousands of court cases, mostly for profit, tax evasion and for ripping people off.

* The impeached.

What he dished out? Trump is, and has always been a counterpuncher. If he attacks someone, you can rest assured that they attacked him first. He doesn't let an attack on himself go unanswered. That's not what is typically meant by "dishing it out".

 

[Darth Omar]

Hi Politalker,

Actually I said I found it believable, not unbelievable.



What he dished out? Trump is, and has always been a counterpuncher. If he attacks someone, you can rest assured that they attacked him first. He doesn't let an attack on himself go unanswered. That's not what is typically meant by "dishing it out".

Trump counter punches to a fault. He often over does it or hits back at stupid stuff.

But yeah, the key concept is ‘counter punch’.

 

[Dachshynddawg]

Tick,

Tock.

Is that the sound of the clock we hear, marking the passing of time while we all wait for Nancy Pelosi to pass the the Articles of Impeachment over to the Senate for trial ? Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock... Poor old scaredy-cat Nancy ! it's all going to end in tears for her, I'm afraid, sob, sob. I must remember to include her in my prayers every night. (She's like the dog who caught the car)

You're really "Maxine Waters - Dumb", dude. You need to clean your act up (it's embarrassing !)

Dachshund

 

[Dachshynddawg]

They are mad as hell that Nancy is playing the same game of hardball Trump* tries to play.

No, that's not what's happening. Nancy literally hasn't got the balls to play Trump's kind of game. She's just running scared and now she's backed herself into a very "dead end." Pelosi is toast !!

Dachshund

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Nancy is only being mocked by hateful Trump fans.

Trump* was mocked by world leaders, then impeached in his own nation.

Bad couple of weeks for him.

No, Trump was impeached by the first straight party line vote in the history of the House.

Pelosi is on record saying that isn’t supposed to happen. And it shouldn’t happen but it did. The ‘nation’ is not behind this. Democrats are upside down on it even in their own polls. This is actually HELPING Trump and I actually wish he’d stay off Twitter about it.

And thanks to Pelosi’s *shenanigans* we now have a constitutional crisis/question of whether Trump is actually impeached or not. That there are legitimate arguments for both sides is terrible news for Pelosi and the democrats. Rather doing a ‘drive by impeachment’ without having to mess with a trial, she’s now faced with a dilemma—of her own making.

Does she go to trial and face the clear prospect of having Trump acquitted by a bipartisan vote? Or does she hold her cards and hope for the best?

 

[Earl]

Tick,

Tock.

Yes, the clock ticks toward exoneration in the Senate (if Nervous Nancy completes the now incomplete impeachment) and re-election in 2020.

 

[Dachshynddawg]

Or does she hold her cards and hope for the best?

What could she be hoping for by holding her cards ? She's on a hiding to nothing !

I think the longer she refuses to pass the House Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial, the deeper becomes the political hole she is digging herself and her Party into. It's bad enough already; I mean, Pelosi SHOULD have sent the two Articles of Impeachment to the Senate the same day they were passed in the House. "This tactic" of refusing to give them to the Senate for trial is sheer stupidity. She has now really screwed up big time. It was, and will always be, inevitable, that the Senate acquits Trump. The case against him is hopelessly weak, and it doesn't matter how many hissy-fits or tricky manoeuvres she tries to play, Pelosi will not change the outcome. (And) in any case, Trump was not treated fairly at all during the "Schiff Show", he not only deserves to be acquited, but the House Impeachment indictment should be completely expunged.


Who does Pelosi think she is ? She appears to think she has the power to tell the Senate how to conduct its business, but she doesn't. The Senate has never presumed it can negotiate with the House regarding how it should conduct its business and, similarly, House has never understood itself to be at liberty to negotiate with the Senate about how it does its job. That's the way it's always been.

Dachshund

 

[Darth Omar]

What could she be hoping for by holding her cards ? She's on a hiding to nothing !

I think the longer she refuses to pass the House Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial, the deeper becomes the political hole she is digging herself and her Party into. It's bad enough already; I mean, Pelosi SHOULD have sent the two Articles of Impeachment to the Senate the same day they were passed in the House. "This tactic" of refusing to give them to the Senate for trial is sheer stupidity. She has now really screwed up big time. It was, and will always be, inevitable, that the Senate acquits Trump. The case against him is hopelessly weak, and it doesn't matter how many hissy-fits or tricky manoeuvres she tries to play, Pelosi will not change the outcome. (And) in any case, Trump was not treated fairly at all during the "Schiff Show", he not only deserves to be acquited, but the House Impeachment indictment should be completely expunged.


Who does Pelosi think she is ? She appears to think she has the power to tell the Senate how to conduct its business, but she doesn't. The Senate has never presumed it can negotiate with the House regarding how it should conduct its business and, similarly, House has never understood itself to be at liberty to negotiate with the Senate about how it does its job. That's the way it's always been.

Dachshund

It’s just more rule bending/breaking by the Democrats.

If Pelosi is serious about negotiations she needs to send her House managers across the street to the Senate and negotiate. It’s that simple. But the minute she does that the trial is certain. As it stands, she has nothing to negotiate *from*. Mitch is like ‘you don’t want to send the articles over? sure, whatever floats your boat’.

Maybe one of our impeachment enthusiasts can pipe up with why Pelosi doesn’t want a trial lol.

At some point even they are going to tire of making excuses for it.

 

[Earl]

What could she be hoping for by holding her cards ? She's on a hiding to nothing !

I think the longer she refuses to pass the House Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial, the deeper becomes the political hole she is digging herself and her Party into. It's bad enough already; I mean, Pelosi SHOULD have sent the two Articles of Impeachment to the Senate the same day they were passed in the House. "This tactic" of refusing to give them to the Senate for trial is sheer stupidity. She has now really screwed up big time. It was, and will always be, inevitable, that the Senate acquits Trump. The case against him is hopelessly weak, and it doesn't matter how many hissy-fits or tricky manoeuvres she tries to play, Pelosi will not change the outcome. (And) in any case, Trump was not treated fairly at all during the "Schiff Show", he not only deserves to be acquited, but the House Impeachment indictment should be completely expunged.


Who does Pelosi think she is ? She appears to think she has the power to tell the Senate how to conduct its business, but she doesn't. The Senate has never presumed it can negotiate with the House regarding how it should conduct its business and, similarly, House has never understood itself to be at liberty to negotiate with the Senate about how it does its job. That's the way it's always been.

Dachshund

High five, great post.

Thanks.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

No, Trump was impeached by the first straight party line vote in the history of the House.

Trump* is the first President facing impeachment to flatly refuse to recognize the co-equal branch of government which is tasked with overseeing his job performance. He earned Article 2.

Pelosi is on record saying that isn’t supposed to happen. And it shouldn’t happen but it did. The ‘nation’ is not behind this. Democrats are upside down on it even in their own polls. This is actually HELPING Trump and I actually wish he’d stay off Twitter about it.

It should not happen. Ideally, each party should have some disagreement, diversity of views and brainstorming about the best course. We know by now that when Republicans speak of 'the nation' or 'the people,' they are only talking about Republicans, because they live in an imaginary world where others simply do not exist. The reality of diversity strikes fear into Republicans who absurdly cling to white dominance in a multi-colored world.

And thanks to Pelosi’s *shenanigans* we now have a constitutional crisis/question of whether Trump is actually impeached or not. That there are legitimate arguments for both sides is terrible news for Pelosi and the democrats. Rather doing a ‘drive by impeachment’ without having to mess with a trial, she’s now faced with a dilemma—of her own making.

Does she go to trial and face the clear prospect of having Trump acquitted by a bipartisan vote? Or does she hold her cards and hope for the best?

A mock trial is not a fair trial. There is no point in handing Trump fans a false victory with which to stoke the hot wind of their fires of propaganda.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Trump* is the first President facing impeachment to flatly refuse to recognize the co-equal branch of government which is tasked with overseeing his job performance. He earned Article 2.



It should not happen. Ideally, each party should have some disagreement, diversity of views and brainstorming about the best course. We know by now that when Republicans speak of 'the nation' or 'the people,' they are only talking about Republicans, because they live in an imaginary world where others simply do not exist. The reality of diversity strikes fear into Republicans who absurdly cling to white dominance in a multi-colored world.



A mock trial is not a fair trial. There is no point in handing Trump fans a false victory with which to stoke the hot wind of their fires of propaganda.

Then be content with your impeachment* lol.

 

[Jarod]

No, that's not what's happening. Nancy literally hasn't got the balls to play Trump's kind of game. She's just running scared and now she's backed herself into a very "dead end." Pelosi is toast !!

Dachshund

Is that why Trump* is impeached and "mad as hell"?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Then be content with your impeachment* lol.

Take heed:

We have only just begun to impeach

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



Take heed:

We have only just begun to impeach

I fully understand that by now and Democrats should be concerned that I am hardly alone.

See my sig.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

I fully understand that by now and Democrats should be concerned that I am hardly alone.

See my sig.

Democrats and many independents are very much concerned to right the ugly selfish direction our nation has taken with Trump*.

 

[Earl]

The president has not been impeached.

If he is, he will be exonerated in the Senate.

Another nothing burger and failure by the fanatics in the Democrat Socialist Party.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

You will learn soon enough, as the Labour Party discovered, that if you piss off ordinary working people in the rustbelt communities enough it will come back to bite you on the arse. Mark my words, enjoy your Pyrrhic victory it won't last long. Sadly you're too much of a blowhard and an empty vessel to get that, you'll find it out the hard way.

so why did you run to Thailand, did the home office throw you out?

 

[Guno צְבִי]

The president has not been impeached.

If he is, he will be exonerated in the Senate.

Another nothing burger and failure by the fanatics in the Democrat Socialist Party.

nope he has been impeached , the next step is the trial , this isn't like a normal court of law


Here's what happens now that Trump has been impeached by the House

The first charged him with abuse of power, and the second charged him with obstruction of Congress, setting the stage for an impeachment trial next month.


https://www.businessinsider.com/what-happens-if-trump-gets-impeached-2019-12

 

[Nordberg]

What could she be hoping for by holding her cards ? She's on a hiding to nothing !

I think the longer she refuses to pass the House Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for trial, the deeper becomes the political hole she is digging herself and her Party into. It's bad enough already; I mean, Pelosi SHOULD have sent the two Articles of Impeachment to the Senate the same day they were passed in the House. "This tactic" of refusing to give them to the Senate for trial is sheer stupidity. She has now really screwed up big time. It was, and will always be, inevitable, that the Senate acquits Trump. The case against him is hopelessly weak, and it doesn't matter how many hissy-fits or tricky manoeuvres she tries to play, Pelosi will not change the outcome. (And) in any case, Trump was not treated fairly at all during the "Schiff Show", he not only deserves to be acquited, but the House Impeachment indictment should be completely expunged.


Who does Pelosi think she is ? She appears to think she has the power to tell the Senate how to conduct its business, but she doesn't. The Senate has never presumed it can negotiate with the House regarding how it should conduct its business and, similarly, House has never understood itself to be at liberty to negotiate with the Senate about how it does its job. That's the way it's always been.

Dachshund

Caterwauling. There have been 3 impeached presidents in history. That is insufficient to establish precedents. The previous wins did not have a Senate leadership refusing to do its job. They were getting real adherence to constitutional duties.
You are right-wing slanting. If Pelosi chooses to do and she is doing it, it is legal and proper.
We expect the Senate to ignore the evidence and acquit. Not because it is weak, but because they are. Trump controls them. They are also stupid. Moscow could have simply said nothing, acted like a real Senator and did his dirty work in the dark. This conflict was caused by his arrogant and useless statements that he was not doing his job, but doing Trump's bidding.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yes, the clock ticks toward exoneration in the Senate (if Nervous Nancy completes the now incomplete impeachment) and re-election in 2020.

heard on the news today, its possible that because the House is no longer in session, if Nancy doesn't send it to the senate by December 31, it dies and they have to do it all over again..........that would be so funny........the demmycrats can't even impeach correctly.......