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[Into the Night]

The Constitution says Congress has the power to collect taxes not get someone else to do it.

They have all the authority they need to create something like the IRS. NOTHING specifies that they themselves have to go out and collect the taxes.

 

[Into the Night]

Next CFM will be demanding that Congress members actually personally fight wars alone.

It IS the logic of his position.

In the real world, Congress makes the laws, and the Executive branch takes care of actually enforcing them.

Quite right.

 

[Into the Night]

No, the Constitution you hate has specific provisions in it related to the military. Nothing about collecting taxes says "IRS".

None. Just limits. The military is created, hired, and maintained by Congress. Just like the IRS. In both cases, the executive branch executes the law using these entities created by Congress.

 

[CFM]

None. Just limits. The military is created, hired, and maintained by Congress. Just like the IRS. In both cases, the executive branch executes the law using these entities created by Congress.

Difference is the Constitution specifically mentions the military yet says nothing about the IRS as an entity.

 

[CFM]

They have all the authority they need to create something like the IRS. NOTHING specifies that they themselves have to go out and collect the taxes.

Nothing specified they can create the IRS.

If you read the words in Article I, Section 8, it specifically says CONGRESS shall lay and collect taxes. It doesn't say Congress can pass it along to someone else.

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

Trolling. You're also a liar.

Fuck Off Idiot!

 

[CFM]

Fuck Off Idiot!

There you go making demands again. When are you going to start doing anything to back up those demands?

 

[Into the Night]

Difference is the Constitution specifically mentions the military yet says nothing about the IRS as an entity.

Irrelevance fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Nothing specified they can create the IRS.

If you read the words in Article I, Section 8, it specifically says CONGRESS shall lay and collect taxes. It doesn't say Congress can pass it along to someone else.

They didn't.

 

[CFM]

They didn't.

Even you said they passed it along to someone else.


Can't keep up Stone?

 

[CFM]

Irrelevance fallacy.

No, just your way to avoid admitting you're an idiot.

Perhaps you can show me where the Constitution says "IRS".

 

[Into the Night]

Even you said they passed it along to someone else.


Can't keep up Stone?

Nope. The IRS was created by Congress. It can be destroyed by Congress. It belongs to Congress.

 

[Into the Night]

No, just your way to avoid admitting you're an idiot.

Perhaps you can show me where the Constitution says "IRS".

Doesn't have to. Congress has the ability to collect taxes.

 

[CFM]

Nope. The IRS was created by Congress. It can be destroyed by Congress. It belongs to Congress.

It's not Congress and the Constitution says Congress shall lay and collect taxes.

 

[CFM]

Doesn't have to. Congress has the ability to collect taxes.

Congress is not collecting them. You admit that.

Are you saying Congress and the IRS are the same body?

 

[Into the Night]

It's not Congress and the Constitution says Congress shall lay and collect taxes.

It is Congress. The IRS was created by Congress.

 

[Into the Night]

Congress is not collecting them. You admit that.

Are you saying Congress and the IRS are the same body?

For the purposes of collecting taxes, yes. Congress created the IRS. Congress owns the IRS. Congress can destroy the IRS anytime they want to. Congress determines the taxes the IRS is going to collect. They have the President manage it, just like any other agency. Did you know that Congress can create agencies to assist in it's constitutionally enumerated powers?

 

[Jerry Mathers]

For the purposes of collecting taxes, yes. Congress created the IRS. Congress owns the IRS. Congress can destroy the IRS anytime they want to. Congress determines the taxes the IRS is going to collect. They have the President manage it, just like any other agency.

irs is the illuminati skim operation, for pocket money.

 

[CFM]

For the purposes of collecting taxes, yes. Congress created the IRS. Congress owns the IRS. Congress can destroy the IRS anytime they want to. Congress determines the taxes the IRS is going to collect. They have the President manage it, just like any other agency. Did you know that Congress can create agencies to assist in it's constitutionally enumerated powers?

They did create it but they aren't the same body.

Where does Congress have the delegated power to create agencies for which no direct wording exists?

 

[CFM]

It is Congress. The IRS was created by Congress.

There's a difference between creation and being what you created. Dr. Frankenstein is not Frankenstein.