Darth Omar
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When did me and 63 million other voters cease to be Americans?
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"Trump's troubles won't end with a Senate acquittal"
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When did me and 63 million other voters cease to be Americans?
No, those Americans view Trump as needing to go after every third week due to his ego driven behavior, remember, Americans don't like Trump
Americans elected him president.
Crossfire Hurricane is under criminal investigation and involved foreign actors and it occurred under Obama.
And it was actually consequential. It very nearly unseated a duly elected President.
*Asking* for an investigation of someone *who may turn out to be* a political opponent falls well short of that.
Wait a minute, you are saying that a sitting President covertly asking a foreign entity to investigate an American citizen who happen to be a political rival is acceptable?
So if tomorrow, Trump calls up the Saudi, Turkey, the Philippines, or even little Rocket Man and asked them to investigate a political rival it is all copacetic?
Interesting, especially considering the Founding Fathers warned about that very thing
“Two key moderate Senate Republicans criticized House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., on Thursday after he claimed this week that senators who do not support hearing from witnesses and entering documents into President Donald Trump's impeachment trial would be complicit in a cover-up.
An aide told NBC News that Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska was "offended" when Nadler, one of the seven House impeachment managers, made the accusation on the Senate floor.
Murkowski is one of a handful of moderate GOP senators who have expressed an openness to calling witnesses, including top Trump administration officials. For Democratic senators who need four Republican votes to support them on the issue, Murkowski's would be a critical vote.
Susan Collins of Maine, another Republican who has been open to witnesses, wrote a note to Chief Justice John Roberts, who is presiding over the trial, taking issue with Nadler's remark, according to a spokesperson.
"Well, I was stunned by Congressman Nadler's approach, and it reminded me that if we were in a normal debate in the Senate that the rule will be invoked to strike the words of the Senator, for imputing another Senator in this case," she said in a statement.
"So, I did write a note raising the issue of whether there had been a violation of the rules of the Senate, and I gave that note to Laura Dove, and well shortly thereafter the Chief Justice did admonish both sides and I was glad that he did," she added.
nbcnews.com
Dumb Democrats never learn.
Crooked Hillary did the same thing...and lost.
Not the Democrats fault those Republicans can't handle the truth, no one can deny Mitch is conducting a show trial, they know it, they just hated be reminded that they are ignoring the truth, it is a cover up
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Wait a minute, you are saying that a sitting President covertly asking a foreign entity to investigate an American citizen who happen to be a political rival is acceptable?
So if tomorrow, Trump calls up the Saudi, Turkey, the Philippines, or even little Rocket Man and asked them to investigate a political rival it is all copacetic?
Interesting, especially considering the Founding Fathers warned about that very thing
He didn’t covertly ask for it—there were several other listeners to the call and not all of them saw a problem with it.
And yeah, it would out of line to ask Little Rocket Man for an investigation of Warren because Warren has absolutely nothing to do with NK.
The Bidens had A LOT to do with Ukraine.
Unforced errors.Not the Democrats fault those Republicans can't handle the truth, no one can deny Mitch is conducting a show trial, they know it, they just hated be reminded that they are ignoring the truth, it is a cover up
Now, the Democrats have managed to lose two...maybe more, sympathetic Republicans.
What are they covering up? Witnesses are yet to be determined.
Not good.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello archives,
I certainly hope so!
I have read so much about Trump it seems we have only scratched the surface of his wrongdoings.
Cohen always said when they finally get Trump it will be on dirty money dealings. Fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, etc...
Does anybody doubt he has a lot of skeletons in that closet?
"The Senate impeachment trial of Donald Trump will be resolved in the next week or so; the president will claim vindication and that it's all over. He's only half right."
"He will be officially acquitted on a largely partisan vote, but the issue and investigations of Trump’s misconduct won't be over. There will be more House inquiries into new revelations on the Trump-Ukraine scandal, perhaps even the Mueller special counsel probe, the president's potential financial conflicts of interest — and likely new lawsuits."
"What the Senate does — or doesn't do — in the days ahead will shape these events. If the Republicans are seen just trying to protect Trump, it won't change the outcome but will ease the case for more wide-ranging subsequent investigations.
"Republicans will counter with two arguments: that their opponents are ignoring the issues voters really care about while hounding the president, and that this is unprecedented harassment in an election year. Both are bogus."
"The House passed an ambitious legislative agenda last year on major domestic initiatives; almost all are being stiffed by Senate Republicans and the Trump White House. As for the unseemliness of investigating a presidential candidate in an election year, in 2016 the House Republicans conducted countless, politically-fueled inquests into Hillary Clinton"
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/479942-trumps-troubles-wont-end-with-a-senate-acquittal
Trump will always be only the third President ever to be impeached, and everyone knows "the Trump scandals will be an unfolding saga, " largely due to Trump himself
If reelected, and the Democrats maintain the House, the drama will only intensify. Trump never learns from his mistakes, his ego it too big, so it is inevitable the emoluments concerns, his taxes, the lawsuits, further Ukraine revelations, and just Trump being Trump will guarantee continuation, he just can't help himself
I certainly hope so!
I have read so much about Trump it seems we have only scratched the surface of his wrongdoings.
Cohen always said when they finally get Trump it will be on dirty money dealings. Fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, etc...
Does anybody doubt he has a lot of skeletons in that closet?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
As if everything has to do only with image.
You know what image is?
Image is a representation.
Reality is the substance.
That's what's important.
Sometimes you have to ignore image and do the right thing. If there is wrongdoing, there must be justice. The House is the only body which can impeach, so it all falls on them. America counts on them. Most Americans are not Trump fans. The House is properly doing their job, and they need to stay on it.
Trump needs to be aggressively pursued because there is so much evidence of wrong doing in his past and his present. He is charged with fraud in a court of New York State. (just a random example - a list would be far too much to put into one post..)
Does it ever occur to Democrats [or you] that going for Trump’s jugular every third week is alienating non-Democrats and/or voters who don’t despise him?
As if everything has to do only with image.
You know what image is?
Image is a representation.
Reality is the substance.
That's what's important.
Sometimes you have to ignore image and do the right thing. If there is wrongdoing, there must be justice. The House is the only body which can impeach, so it all falls on them. America counts on them. Most Americans are not Trump fans. The House is properly doing their job, and they need to stay on it.
Trump needs to be aggressively pursued because there is so much evidence of wrong doing in his past and his present. He is charged with fraud in a court of New York State. (just a random example - a list would be far too much to put into one post..)
Getin the ring
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The only "troubles" trump has is pesky little fleas nipping at his heels.
And that is about to end, very quickly
And that is about to end, very quickly
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
Lame argument.
Trump on the hot seat so why not blame Obama?
Get real.
That's no defense.
You have no defense.
-But it is somewhat amusing to watch your imagination in action.
Crossfire Hurricane is under criminal investigation and involved foreign actors and it occurred under Obama.
And it was actually consequential. It very nearly unseated a duly elected President.
*Asking* for an investigation of someone *who may turn out to be* a political opponent falls well short of that.
Lame argument.
Trump on the hot seat so why not blame Obama?
Get real.
That's no defense.
You have no defense.
-But it is somewhat amusing to watch your imagination in action.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Nordberg,
Kinda hard to put that cat back in the bag.
I said it before. Books will come out written by trumpets that will hurt him. I did not then know that Bolton was writing a truthful book. Excerpts have come out and he said Trump did a quid pro quo with Ukraine aid. I think even rightys knew that all along but were certain the truth would not come out before the election.
Kinda hard to put that cat back in the bag.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
How can you tell if political news is truthful? Easy. When it disagrees with Trump.
How do you know it’s truthful lol?
How can you tell if political news is truthful? Easy. When it disagrees with Trump.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Hello Darth,
Lame argument.
Trump on the hot seat so why not blame Obama?
Get real.
That's no defense.
You have no defense.
-But it is somewhat amusing to watch your imagination in action.
The Durham *criminal* investigation of Cross Fire Hurricane is imaginary lol?
Who knew? Learn something new every day.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
Calling things names doesn't mean the names are accurate. Actually, if you were really armed with the truth, that should suffice. You wouldn't have to make up names.
Democrats have their hands full trying to decide which Trump crimes to investigate.
Recall how the Ukraine Silly Burger began on the heels of the Mullet implosion.
Calling things names doesn't mean the names are accurate. Actually, if you were really armed with the truth, that should suffice. You wouldn't have to make up names.
Don’t be surprised if Democrats have Plan C already in the works.
Democrats have their hands full trying to decide which Trump crimes to investigate.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
When 66 million voters refused to accept the nonsense of Trump. [that's 3 million more than wanted Trump...]
It is quite amusing to watch as Republican after Republican carries on about 'unseating a duly elected president,' and 'going against what the voters wanted.'
What the voters wanted was Hillary, by 3 million votes. Hello?
When did me and 63 million other voters cease to be Americans?
When 66 million voters refused to accept the nonsense of Trump. [that's 3 million more than wanted Trump...]
It is quite amusing to watch as Republican after Republican carries on about 'unseating a duly elected president,' and 'going against what the voters wanted.'
What the voters wanted was Hillary, by 3 million votes. Hello?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Hello Darth,
Calling things names doesn't mean the names are accurate. Actually, if you were really armed with the truth, that should suffice. You wouldn't have to make up names.
Democrats have their hands full trying to decide which Trump crimes to investigate.
Mullet imploded and this Ukraine thing is silly lol.
Be honest, you don’t really care about Ukraine, right?
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
But several people overhearing the 'perfect phone call' (from the 'stable genius') DID see a problem with it! So much so that they risked their careers to report it (with nothing to gain from it.)
An anti-corruption program should have been labelled as such and should be initiated through normal channels (GAO: withholding aid as a quid pro quo was illegal,) and no specific investigations should be asked for by the President. Let the Attorney General determine which investigations have just cause to be initated (as was done with the Mueller investigation.) Let our Justice Department contact there's, etc. And why on earth should such investigations be publicly announced? That would be stupid and taint the investigation. More is learned when they are secret.
Trump taking this on personally, in the way he did, screams election-rigging with solicited foreign influence.
He didn’t covertly ask for it—there were several other listeners to the call and not all of them saw a problem with it.
But several people overhearing the 'perfect phone call' (from the 'stable genius') DID see a problem with it! So much so that they risked their careers to report it (with nothing to gain from it.)
And yeah, it would out of line to ask Little Rocket Man for an investigation of Warren because Warren has absolutely nothing to do with NK.
The Bidens had A LOT to do with Ukraine.
An anti-corruption program should have been labelled as such and should be initiated through normal channels (GAO: withholding aid as a quid pro quo was illegal,) and no specific investigations should be asked for by the President. Let the Attorney General determine which investigations have just cause to be initated (as was done with the Mueller investigation.) Let our Justice Department contact there's, etc. And why on earth should such investigations be publicly announced? That would be stupid and taint the investigation. More is learned when they are secret.
Trump taking this on personally, in the way he did, screams election-rigging with solicited foreign influence.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
Might as well put all your eggs in that basket.
The Durham *criminal* investigation of Cross Fire Hurricane is imaginary lol?
Who knew? Learn something new every day.
Might as well put all your eggs in that basket.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
Hello Darth,
When 66 million voters refused to accept the nonsense of Trump. [that's 3 million more than wanted Trump...]
It is quite amusing to watch as Republican after Republican carries on about 'unseating a duly elected president,' and 'going against what the voters wanted.'
What the voters wanted was Hillary, by 3 million votes. Hello?
The margin is less impressive when expressed as a percentage of the total vote lol.
Do you suppose that’s why they use the 3 million number? Or instead of saying Hillary won the popular vote ‘by a mere whisker’? Is that the way they convince the lemmings there’s a huge ground swell of the country that wanted Hillary instead of Trump?
They wouldn’t do that, would they?