If Prez Doing Such A Good Job, Why Does USA Have Most Covid?

Hello anonymoose,

anonymoose said:
The latest:

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Apparently you think the countries' leaders above the u.s. on this chart should be impeached over the C.V. OK.
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Now you're just making things up. That suggests you have no better response. And why are you focused on the "per million" figure? Last week it was all about total cases. Why the big switch? Oh, nevermind. We know. You lost the total cases battle so you went looking for a better looking metric. Hey, you might try arguing total deaths. The USA is still not leading in that metric. For now. That one is still lower than Italy. They just hit 10K deaths. We are only around 2K at the moment. It's hard to keep up, the numbers are whizzing by so fast. Maybe we won't see the 2,666 serious or critical cases figure rise as fast as the total cases are. If only we had taken this far more seriously much earlier than Friday the 13th of March. About 6 weeks earlier would have been good.

I hope those 6 weeks of stock market gains were worth it.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello anonymoose,



Now you're just making things up. That suggests you have no better response. And why are you focused on the "per million" figure? Last week it was all about total cases. Why the big switch? Oh, nevermind. We know. You lost the total cases battle so you went looking for a better looking metric. Hey, you might try arguing total deaths. The USA is still not leading in that metric. For now. That one is still lower than Italy. They just hit 10K deaths. We are only around 2K at the moment. It's hard to keep up, the numbers are whizzing by so fast. Maybe we won't see the 2,666 serious or critical cases figure rise as fast as the total cases are. If only we had taken this far more seriously much earlier than Friday the 13th of March. About 6 weeks earlier would have been good.

I hope those 6 weeks of stock market gains were worth it.
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You cheered the stock market losses caused by the Chinese virus which harmed millions of Americans and their families.

“Go, go, go.”
 
Stretch said:
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I don't believe China's numbers.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
It would be nice to have some better data.

Calling it good data is fake news.
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That sounds pretty desperate, questioning the data.

You know I was kidding when I suggested how easy it would be if we just call it fake and then see it go away, scroll out of the news cycle, replaced by the latest insult hurled by the prez.

I just don't think there is any kind of hissy fit he can throw to make this go away. He tried denial for 6 weeks too long. He gave up. Now he is trying to be a leader. Too bad for us he is too late.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



That sounds pretty desperate, questioning the data.

You know I was kidding when I suggested how easy it would be if we just call it fake and then see it go away, scroll out of the news cycle, replaced by the latest insult hurled by the prez.

I just don't think there is any kind of hissy fit he can throw to make this go away. He tried denial for 6 weeks too long. He gave up. Now he is trying to be a leader. Too bad for us he is too late.
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The data is incomplete.

Just is. It is what it is.
 
Feb 28: CDC says no question of if, only when. It's coming.

February 28: “Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that, right? Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa.” “They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.”

I am surprised, if he really felt that way, that he didn't fire the Director of the CDC, who completely contradicted him on the same day.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
The data is incomplete.

Just is. It is what it is.
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Well of course it is incomplete. We lack adequate testing, so logically there are far more cases than we know about. And that's a good thing, actually, as far as the death rate goes. That means the true death rate is lower than the 37% one which can be calculated from the confirmed case data. How much lower, we don't know.

That also means that when localities wait until they show alarming numbers of cases to issue shelter-in-place orders that it is too late. They really should have done so sooner.

That's why we are seeing the totals spike, not a flattening of the curve.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



Well of course it is incomplete. We lack adequate testing, so logically there are far more cases than we know about. And that's a good thing, actually, as far as the death rate goes. That means the true death rate is lower than the 37% one which can be calculated from the confirmed case data. How much lower, we don't know.

That also means that when localities wait until they show alarming numbers of cases to issue shelter-in-place orders that it is too late. They really should have done so sooner.

That's why we are seeing the totals spike, not a flattening of the curve.
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A mortality rate derived only from confirmed cases is worthless.

Though it makes good click bait.
 
Darth Omar said:
A mortality rate derived only from confirmed cases is worthless.

Though it makes good click bait.
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Disagreed since a mortality rate from unconfirmed cases is worthless. They could have died in a rice picker tragedy.

Still, anyone who believes the Chinese or Russian mortality rates is a fucking moron.
 
2000 deaths threshold passed today.

Where is the ceiling?

How high will it go before it begins to flatten the curve?

120K total cases.
 
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