Brirx echos Trump, saying that "someone had to have known" (WTO or China)

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dukkha

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A day after President Donald Trump said he was putting a hold on U.S. funding for the World Health Organization amid the ongoing pandemic, White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx echoed the president, saying that "someone had to have known" that human transmission was happening, whether China or the WHO, and signaled many lives could have been saved it been known earlier.

"I think once this is over, we'll be able to look back and see, 'did China and the WHO say and do everything to alert the rest of the world to the nuances of this virus' -- because when it first explodes someone had to have known that there was human to human transmission," Birx told co-hosts of ABC's "The View" Wednesday.
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"You really have to go back and ask yourself, why wasn't there this level of transparency when this virus exploded?" she added. "I think people would have prepared differently if they had known the level of transmissibility of this virus.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/birx-trump-suggests-china-warned-human-human-transmission-164300166.html
 
because when it first explodes someone had to have known that there was human to human transmission,
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Bingo.
either China or the WHO are incompetent or purposely deceitfol and has caused a worldwide Depression and upheaval.

Nothing for the WHO until it shakes down clean.
 
Seems China lines certain power brokers pockets thru back channels at the WHO in order for China to hold power over the WHO. FUCKUM! Not one thin dime will they get! China and the WHO must both be held accountable.
 
Stone said:
Seems China lines certain power brokers pockets thru back channels at the WHO in order for China to hold power over the WHO. FUCKUM! Not one thin dime will they get! China and the WHO must both be held accountable.
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That and China works the UN agencies better then we do
(Like China just being awarded a seat on human rights commission ? LOL)

They use the UN as an extension of their soft powers while we tend to dismiss much of it as limousine liberals
 
China and the president both did the same wrong thing in the beginning.

They both went into denial mode.

Taiwan was not fooled. Taiwan knew better than to believe China.

Taiwan immediately activated their pandemic response team, which took the matter very seriously and began limiting travel, imposing self-quarantine restrictions, monitoring and aggressive testing.
 
^the topic is the WHO and if you want to talk about "denial"they were doing the same.
The question is if they also did it with malice to accommodate China's wishes

So if they are worthless/Chinese asset -why should we fund them?
 
PoliTalker said:
China and the president both did the same wrong thing in the beginning.

They both went into denial mode.

Taiwan was not fooled. Taiwan knew better than to believe China.

Taiwan immediately activated their pandemic response team, which took the matter very seriously and began limiting travel, imposing self-quarantine restrictions, monitoring and aggressive testing.
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Trump is not a leader. Real leadership is beyond his capacity. He hasn’t got the capacity to make hard decisions. His popularity means the most to him.
 
PoliTalker said:
China and the president both did the same wrong thing in the beginning.

They both went into denial mode.

Taiwan was not fooled. Taiwan knew better than to believe China.

Taiwan immediately activated their pandemic response team, which took the matter very seriously and began limiting travel, imposing self-quarantine restrictions, monitoring and aggressive testing.
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trump was briefed on Jan 3. How he chose to respond is on him. Not WHO. Not China
 
Phantasmal said:
Trump is not a leader. Real leadership is beyond his capacity. He hasn’t got the capacity to make hard decisions. His popularity means the most to him.
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trump doesn't understand that POTUS is supposed to be the leader of the nation. Not just donors, and those who are 'nice' to him.
 
Phantasmal said:
Trump is not a leader. Real leadership is beyond his capacity. He hasn’t got the capacity to make hard decisions. His popularity means the most to him.
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rant. fails to note Trump's China travel ban back in January, or the duplicity of the WHO for guidance
 
Breaking ...

The WHO said it would suspend support for the president pending an investigation into his role "in severely mismanaging" the crisis.

"In February, when the WHO was warning that the coronavirus was a world threat, Mr Trump's claim that it would disappear 'like a miracle' misled people who still believed him."
 
Jan 3. PDB includes warning about Coronavirus
Jan 8th - First CDC warning
Jan 9th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 14th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 18th - Trump golfs
Jan 19th - Trump golfs
Jan 20th - first case of corona virus in the US, Washington State.
Jan 22nd - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan 28th - Trump campaign rally
Jan 30th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 1st - Trump golfs
Feb 2nd - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
Feb 10th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 15th - Trump golfs
Feb 19th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 20th - Trump campaign rally
Feb 21st - Trump campaign rally
Feb 24th - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb 25th - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb 25th - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb 26th - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb 26th - “We're going very substantially down, not up.” Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
February 27th: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
Feb 28th: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
Feb 28th - Trump campaign rally. “This is their new hoax.”
March 2nd - “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2nd - “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4th: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5th - “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5th - “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6th - “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6th - “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6th - “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6th - “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7th - Trump golfs
March 8th - Trump golfs
March 8th - “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9th - “This blindsided the world.”
March 13th - Declared state of emergency
March 17th - “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
March 25th - 3.3 million Americans file for unemployment.


 
WHO refuses to call coronavirus outbreak a pandemic, scientists disagree Mar 7, 2020
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/07...virus-outbreak-a-pandemic-scientists-disagree
As cases of the coronavirus surge in Italy, Iran, South Korea, the U.S. and elsewhere, many scientists say it's plain that the world is in the grips of a pandemic — a serious global outbreak.

The World Health Organization has so far resisted describing the crisis as such, saying the word “pandemic” might spook the world further and lead some countries to lose hope of containing the virus.
 
https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00424.asp

[FONT=&quot]Distributed via the CDC Health Alert Network
January 8, 2020, 1615 ET (04:15 PM ET)
CDCHAN-00424[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Summary
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is closely monitoring a reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology (PUE) with possible epidemiologic links to a large wholesale fish and live animal market in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China. An outbreak investigation by local officials is ongoing in China; the World Health Organization (WHO) is the lead international public health agency. Currently, there are no known U.S. cases nor have cases been reported in countries other than China. CDC has established an Incident Management Structure to optimize domestic and international coordination if additional public health actions are required.[/FONT]
 
dukkha said:
A day after President Donald Trump said he was putting a hold on U.S. funding for the World Health Organization amid the ongoing pandemic, White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx echoed the president, saying that "someone had to have known" that human transmission was happening, whether China or the WHO, and signaled many lives could have been saved it been known earlier.



"You really have to go back and ask yourself, why wasn't there this level of transparency when this virus exploded?" she added. "I think people would have prepared differently if they had known the level of transmissibility of this virus.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/birx-trump-suggests-china-warned-human-human-transmission-164300166.html
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Birx and Fauci keep disrupting the Democrat/media [pardon the redundancy] narrative lol.
 
China denies allegations that the pandemic originated near laboratory in Wuhan 4/15

China has also strongly denied claims it delayed reporting on the virus outbreak in Wuhan late last year and underreported case numbers, worsening the impact on the U.S. and other countries. The virus is widely believed to have originated with bats and have passed via another animal species to humans at a wildlife and seafood market in Wuhan, although a firm determination has yet to be made.

Allegations about a leak of the virus from the lab have been made in the U.S. media without direct evidence,
https://www.wkrg.com/top-stories/ch...pandemic-originated-near-laboratory-in-wuhan/
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recall the State Dept cables from 2018. They WARNED of lax containment at the Wuhan facilities..
CHINA LIES -PEOPLE DIE
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State Department warned in 2018 that Wuhan lab testing bats for coronavirus had sloppy safety precautions and had the potential to cause a 'new SARS-like pandemic'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...8-Wuhan-lab-cause-new-SARS-like-pandemic.html
In 2018 a US diplomat and science diplomat from the Beijing embassy visited the Wuhan Institute of Virology multiple times from January to March
They sent two 'sensitive but unclassified cables' back to Washington, DC
They reported of a lack of proper safety procedures and concern over its study of coronavirus in animals including bats
They warned that the lab 'represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic'
 
Hello dukkha,

dukkha said:
^the topic is the WHO and if you want to talk about "denial"they were doing the same.
The question is if they also did it with malice to accommodate China's wishes

So if they are worthless/Chinese asset -why should we fund them?
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The thread title claims it is about the WTO.

Freudian slip?
 
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