Another Thing trump Takes Credit For Turns To Shit

You didn’t answer the question, Walter.

Quote Originally Posted by Earl
What is the reason for the economic loss around the world, Walter?
 
The jobs we have lost to automation are lost forever. We are not getting them back. But the growth was a bit better than you say, and 2% is not stagnant. Growth was as high as 5.5%, but averaged closer to the low 2's. It was moderate.

There was hope that automation would lead to massive productivity growth, but it was hard to figure out a way to bring workers along for the ride. This is the new problem facing economists and policy makers.

Meanwhile, trump hopes to get massive numbers of people digging coal, just like a hundred years ago.
lies again. your posts are trash reads
 
garbage.. .we;ve been hearing that since Trump took office. The economy was booming across all sectors

Economic growth did not change when trump came into office. So if low 2% growth was booming for trump, it would be booming for Obama too.

Even during the Great Recession, the repo markets did not need the Fed to print money and pour it into the repo markets. I doubt we have ever needed that before trump. When the Fed has to immediately create money to keep almost all the major businesses in America from going bankrupt, that is a real problem with the economy.
 
Economic growth did not change when trump came into office. So if low 2% growth was booming for trump, it would be booming for Obama too.

Even during the Great Recession, the repo markets did not need the Fed to print money and pour it into the repo markets. I doubt we have ever needed that before trump. When the Fed has to immediately create money to keep almost all the major businesses in America from going bankrupt, that is a real problem with the economy.
FFS. GDP slowed to 1.9 Percent in Obama's final days.
The economy slowed in the final quarter of 2016, growing less than 2 percent. That is what Trump inherited
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But more then the GDP it was wages and good jobs. Trump grew manufacturing jobs by almost 500k
Obama lost 200k -and Obama said those jobs "were not coming back without a magic wand"

Wages were about 3- 3.4% growth per annum - and the wage gains were skewed to lower income earners
Obama did not come close on wages and good job growth
 
Stop squirming, Walter.

You didn’t answer the question, Walter.

Quote Originally Posted by Earl
What is the reason for the economic loss around the world, Walter?
 
I retired early on disability, because I am really, really smart. I dun no schooling to make me smart. I live off taxpayer money

Whatever loser.

it's obvious you have no experience when it comes to hiring.

I have been an outside consultant on hiring. It was almost entirely masters degree or higher candidates. I have no experience with blue collar hiring.

Does ethnicity play a part for you?

Not really. Ethnicity is a fun thing to talk about at work, like maybe the weather, but not an essential part of work, or getting a job. For a while there I had only one job, where citizenship was important. Now I am diversifying again, and will be hiring out to subcontractors who are not in the USA.
 
There is a whole slew of the worst bankruptcies ever that are happening. I can not stress this enough, this is the biggest market malfunction ever. Frackers cannot stop pumping oil, ...

I'll be honest with you ... I stopped reading after this.

Oil production has stopped because they can not sell what they produce for a profit ... so yes ... they have stopped oil production.

Short time investors got out in 2014-15 ... most fracking fields stayed dormant with skeletal staff until the price increased.

I was a fuel tank inspector back then and we were booming ... frackers were trying to sell their smaller storage tanks.

Fracking is a big natural gas producer ... 2/3 of our natural gas production... not as fluent in that industry as I am with oil but I imagine demand is declining for that as well.
 
What is the reason for the economic loss around the world, Walter?

The trade wars, the credit markets seizing up, and the extremely low inflation/prime rates all were having the global markets slip into a global recession. And then the pandemic hit, and all the countries went into lockdown, and we were looking at something far worse than a global recession.
 
The trade wars, the credit markets seizing up, and the extremely low inflation/prime rates all were having the global markets slip into a global recession. And then the pandemic hit, and all the countries went into lockdown, and we were looking at something far worse than a global recession.
trade wars caused no loss of trade or inflation - it has to be done China has been stealing our lunch forever.
( forced tech transfer with JVentures, IP theft, espionage -as well as their malign behavior in the S.China sea)

There was no shortage of credit..January had another month of YUGE job growth.

Such revisonist partisan malarkey you post!
 
Trump...test kits! Lol

Oh those inconvenient questions!

Walter won’t even give the name of the university that gave him a masters degree...lol...in engineering.
Which engineering discipline, Walter?

What is the derivative of tanx, Walter?

Second year calc, Walter.
 
The jobs we have lost to automation are lost forever. We are not getting them back. But the growth was a bit better than you say, and 2% is not stagnant. Growth was as high as 5.5%, but averaged closer to the low 2's. It was moderate.

There was hope that automation would lead to massive productivity growth, but it was hard to figure out a way to bring workers along for the ride. This is the new problem facing economists and policy makers.

Meanwhile, trump hopes to get massive numbers of people digging coal, just like a hundred years ago.

So you do remember 0bama's new normal of 2% growth ... thought so.

And that ain't a moderate growth ... that's barely keeping up with inflation ... or stagnant ... 0bama said get used to it.

President Trump said nonsense and proceeded to get govt out of our way ... that's the magic wand 0bama couldn't find.

He couldn't find it because getting govt out of our way is not a tool in a socialist tool box ... his answer to everything was more regulations and spend more money.
 
The trade wars, the credit markets seizing up, and the extremely low inflation/prime rates all were having the global markets slip into a global recession. And then the pandemic hit, and all the countries went into lockdown, and we were looking at something far worse than a global recession.
No, Walter, wrong.

Here’s the correct answer that you avoided.

The economic crash around the world is the direct result of the virus from China that China failed to contain.

Of course you knew that, Walter.
 
The trade wars, the credit markets seizing up, and the extremely low inflation/prime rates all were having the global markets slip into a global recession. And then the pandemic hit, and all the countries went into lockdown, and we were looking at something far worse than a global recession.

I don’t wish to be rude, Walter but that’s ...h o r s e. m i e r d a.
 
FFS. GDP slowed to 1.9 Percent in Obama's final days. The economy slowed in the final quarter of 2016, growing less than 2 percent.

That is just wrong. '16Q4 GDP growth was 2%, and '17Q1 growth was 2.3%. '16Q2 was 1.9%, but that was not when Obama left office. It all averaged out to the low 2's. There were much lower numbers ('14Q1 was -1.1%), but also much higher numbers ('14Q2 was 5.5%, and '14Q3 was 5%). And, it all averaged out to the low 2's.

trump continued in the low 2's.

Wages were about 3- 3.4% growth per annum

We have not seen higher than 3% growth in wages "per annum" since Clinton was President. Could you mean "annualized"? You would be correct if you said that. We did see a few months that if they were annualized, they would be in the low 3's.

Lets start at the beginning. Obama lowered unemployment greatly. That did not lead to the massive wage growth that economists would expect. Wage growth stayed close to GDP growth, in the low 2's, so did not cause inflation. trump did lower unemployment a bit more, not the massive amount you claim, and wages did start ticking up above economic growth. It was averaging in the high 2's, not above 3% as you claim. The Fed was beginning to become worried about inflation.

But there were also odd problems. No one had ever heard of all the companies on the S&P 500 running out of cash on hand at the same time. The Fed printing money to fill that gap meant that they were going to have to raise the prime rate to keep inflation from getting out of hand. That meant a recession was coming.

I hope this all helps you understand the last decade of economics.
 
A week ago, trump was taking credit for stabilizing oil prices, and now oil is at NEGATIVE $30 a barrel. I did not even think this amount of instability was possible. trump is failing well beyond our worst nightmares.

Some of it is bad luck. No matter how incompetent, no one could fail this badly.

But a lot of it is trump's personal failings. he fails to think, and he fails to listen... But he also fails in an interesting way. he totally fails to make deals. he lacks the ability to get people to agree to things in detail.
Because they know that he has never lived up to any deal he has made. Not once in his life.
 
trade wars caused no loss of trade or inflation

Trade wars definitely caused loss of trade for both sides. Remember the massive farm aid package trump needed to repay the farmers for their lost trade?

The world economy was suffering from borderline deflation, so if the trade wars had caused inflation they would have been good.

as well as their malign behavior in the S.China sea

Since trump came to office, the Chinese have seized all those islands, and built bases on them. China has them, and now China is attacking non-Chinese fishing fleets, which they never used to do.

There was no shortage of credit.

Have you ever heard of the Fed handing out newly printed money to the businesses on the S&P 500, because they do not have enough cash to pay their bills? It has never happened before.
 
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