Into the Night
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Serious question here: If Floyd died from neck compression as claimed.....
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The medical examiner says it's proof and I'll take their word for it, not yours.
"The Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's Office ruled Anderson's death a homicide-"sudden death in association with physical restraint in a prone position in association with ischemic heart disease and bipolar disorder with agitation". She asphyxiated while being restrained in a prone position. Obesity and other health factors also contributed to her death, the office said."
I'm assuming you question the conclusions drawn by it because you don't want to believe the cop was responsible for Floyd's death.
One-liner. Inversion fallacy. Kettle logic.
Your calling a comment a fallacy does not make it one.
Ad hominem.
Into the Night
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Not a proof. An opinion. Proofs only exist in closed functional systems, not in political or medical opinions.
Strawman fallacy.
Into the Night
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No, I am assuming the conclusions drawn by it are not independent, and quite possibly false.
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He was responding to your ad hominem, dumbass.
Into the Night
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Kettle logic is a fallacy, dope. So is an inversion fallacy (projecting your own issues upon another). Denial of logic.
A fallacy is an error in logic, just as there are errors in mathematics. Both logic and mathematics are closed functional systems.
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Thank you. You said it before I could.
So what? He's the one calling my responses logical fallacies, and then using them himself. What morons the two of you are.
Floyd had tested positive for Covid-19 with a test on April 3rd and again tested positive with a nasal swab post mortem. It's in the autopsy report.
A transcript of the 911 doesn't become fake because news media make it available. Only a complete idiot would think it does. I'll bet you think video of Trump isn't real because CNN filmed him. You seem to that out of touch with reality.
Into the Night
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So?
A fake transcript doesn't become an actual transcript because the fake media published it.
You are making a lot of rash assumptions.
The video image of Trump is real, but what CNN says that Trump said in the video is not. It is taken out of context and changed around. It is fiction.
Into the Night
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Whiner. There. I've used an ad hominem. It is because you keep using ad hominems. Get a clue, stupid. (there! I've used another one!).
So, your statement has proven to be factually incorrect. Now you want to blithely pass it off by responding, "so".
Since it is the one released by the police, it can only be fake if they faked it. It certainly didn't become fake when the media printed it word for word as released by the police. This would be an example of an ad hominem argument. You are calling it fake simply because the "fake" media published it. You did not research to see if it was fake or explain what is fake. Rather you simple attack the media as the messenger.
Not really. You confirmed my argument when you made your ad hominem argument.
It is unclear to me how a live video feed can be taken out of context by the media that is broadcasting it.
Actually, you are not using the ad hominem fallacy. You are just calling people names while making no argument. If anything, your post would be an example of a red herring.
No, a heart attack killed him.
Into the Night
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I never said Floyd didn't have Covid. What the hell are YOU talking about??
The police do not release 911 transcripts.
Fake news.
Fallacy fallacy. No insult was made anywhere.
No. I'm calling it fake because the source can't be trusted and it comes from a source known to write a lot of fiction and call it 'news'; and also that no known publication of any actual transcript from any 911 was ever made concerning this event.
Attempt to force negative proof fallacy. I do not have to prove anything. YOU do. You are shifting the burden of proof, also a fallacy.
No, I simply don't trust them.
Fallacy fallacy. Redirection fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (void proof<->insult fallacy).
Dude...you really ARE clueless, aren't you?
You said this "Also true. There is no evidence, however, that Floyd has Covid-19. There IS evidence, however, that he had some kind of cardio problem."
That is factually incorrect since the autopsy which was released before you made your statement states he had Covid-19. Your "so" is still a lame attempt to pass off your ignorance as being nothing.
It depends on the jurisdiction. The Minneapolis Police released the 911 transcript as reported by Hubbard Broadcasting in Minneapolis and many other sources.
Ad hominem since you don't address the argument but imply it being wrong by attacking the source as "fake".
Ad hominem doesn't require an "insult." It is an attempt to attack the source as invalid because of who the source is while not showing how or why the source is wrong. You don't know much about fallacies, do you? The classic example of an ad hominem argument is, "I don't trust them therefore they are wrong."
Now you are using the argumentum ad ignoratiam fallacy. Because you don't know about something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Any google search of George Floyd 911 call reveals multiple sources of the transcript. Are you accusing Tucker Carlson of being fake news?
Arugmentum ad ignoratiam on your part again. You don't show it to be non existent but simply claim you don't believe it to be true. Classic example.
Ad hominem fallacy.
Proof you don't understand fallacies.
Since I know more about fallacies than you, what does that say about your abilities to buy a clue?