jacksonsprat22
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Unfortunately the uneducated are easily manipulated. They know only ideology. Criticize an economic idea and they think you're antifa wanting to burn down America.
Why Do the Rich Have So Much Power?
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Unfortunately the uneducated are easily manipulated. They know only ideology. Criticize an economic idea and they think you're antifa wanting to burn down America.
wealth is good..WTF are you talking about?
Government isn't "good" or "bad". To quote Eric Clapton:
Its the purpose of government.
PoliTalker
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Hello jacksonsprat22,
"Huge disparities in income and wealth translate into comparable disparities in political influence."
That's not exactly correct.
Those wealth disparities translate into GREATER disparities in political influence.
"At the time, [2011] Washington was firmly in the grip of deficit fever. Even though the federal government was able to borrow at historically low interest rates, everyone who mattered seemed to be saying that the budget deficit was the most important issue facing America and that it was essential to rein in spending on Social Security and Medicare."
It wasn't everyone who mattered, it was power-hungry Republicans who wanted to limit the success of Democrats, so they turned the deficit into the issue of the day.
" a CBS poll in early 2011 found only 6 percent of the public named the deficit as the most important issue, compared with 51 percent citing the economy and jobs."
Exactly. The deficit was a non-issue until Republicans over-hyped it.
The answer to the OP question is that the rich have so much power because corruption is legal in our government.
We have to fix that by supporting the Anti-Corruption Act:
" Anti-Corruption Act:
1
Stop political bribery
Make it illegal for politicians to take money from lobbyists.
Politicians get extraordinary sums of money in the form of campaign donations from the special interests who lobby them. In return, politicians create laws favorable to these special interests – even when those laws hurt voters.
Under the American Anti-Corruption Act, people who get paid to lobby cannot donate to politicians.
Ban lobbyist bundling.
Lobbyists regularly bundle together big contributions from their friends and colleagues and deliver them in one lump sum to politicians. This turns lobbyists into major fundraisers, giving politicians an incentive to keep them happy by working political favors.
The Act prohibits lobbyists from bundling contributions.
Close the revolving door.
Lobbyists and special interests routinely offer public officials high-paying lobbying jobs. Politicians and their staff routinely move straight from government to these lucrative lobbying jobs, where they get paid to influence their former colleagues.
The Act stops elected representatives and senior staff from selling off their government power for high-paying lobbying jobs, prohibits them from negotiating jobs while in office, and bars them from paid lobbying activity for several years once they leave.
Prevent politicians from fundraising during working hours.
Most federal politicians spend between 3 and 7 hours a day fundraising from big donors instead of working on issues that matter to voters.
Under the Act, politicians are prevented from raising money during the workday, when they should be serving their constituents.
2
End Secret Money
Immediately disclose political money online.
Current disclosure laws are outdated and broken. Many donations are not disclosed for months, and some are never made available electronically, making it difficult for citizens and journalists to follow the money in our political system.
The Anti-Corruption Act ensures that all significant political fundraising and spending is immediately disclosed online and made easily accessible to the public.
Stop donors from hiding behind secret-money groups.
Elections are being flooded with big money funneled through groups with secret donors. These secretive groups spend money directly to influence elections and make unlimited contributions to super PACs, which run ads to elect and defeat candidates.
Under the Act, any organization that spends meaningful funds on political advertisements is required to file a timely online report disclosing its major donors.
3
Fix Our Broken Elections
End gerrymandering.
Politicians are intentionally drawing the lines around voters in order to guarantee their own re-election and give their political party an unfair advantage.
The Anti-Corruption Act ends gerrymandering by creating independent, fully transparent redistricting commissions that follow strict guidelines to ensure accurate representation for all voters, regardless of political party.
Let all voters participate in open primaries.
By controlling the primaries, the political establishment controls which candidates we can vote on.
The Act makes all candidates for the same office compete in a single, open primary controlled by voters, not the political establishment. This gives voters more control over our elections and more choices at the ballot.
Let voters rank their top candidates, avoid “spoilers.”
Outdated voting systems force voters to choose between the “lesser of two evils” at the ballot box or vote for a “spoiler” candidate.
Under the Act, voters can rank their top candidates, allowing them to support their top choice without fear of inadvertently helping elect the other party’s candidate. If their top choice isn’t going to win, their vote transfers to their second choice, and so on. This makes it easier to elect independent-minded candidates who aren’t beholden to establishment special interests.
Automatic voter registration.
Our voter rolls and registration systems are outdated, error-prone, and costly. New and proven systems can save taxpayer money and ensure that all eligible voters are able to participate on Election Day.
The Act automatically registers all interested eligible voters when they interact with government agencies – whether it’s when they go to the DMV, get a hunting license, apply for food assistance, or sign up for the national guard. Voters can always opt-out from being registered. Information is transmitted electronically and securely to a central source maintained by the state.
Vote at home or at the polls.
Election Day is a mess. Forcing voters to take time off from work and their families to stand in long lines on a Tuesday is ineffective, insecure, and outdated.
The Act improves voter service by sending ballots to voters at home and allowing them to mail it back on their own timeframe, or drop it off at a professionally-staffed voting center. Voters can still vote in person or receive assistance at a voting center.
Reasonable term limits.
When elected officials are allowed to become career politicians, our elections become uncompetitive and new ideas have a harder time being heard.
The Act sets reasonable term limits of 18 years total at each level of government, so that candidates focus on public service instead of staying in office.
Change how elections are funded.
Running a political campaign is expensive, but few Americans can afford to donate to political campaigns. That makes politicians dependent upon – and therefore responsive to – a tiny fraction of special-interest donors.
The Act offers every voter a small credit they can use to make a political donation with no out-of-pocket expense. Candidates and political groups are only eligible to receive these credits if they agree to fundraise solely from small donors. The Act also empowers political action committees that only take donations from small donors, giving everyday people a stronger voice in our elections.
4
Enforce the Rules
Crack down on super PACs.
As a result of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, the Supreme Court ruled that super PACs can spend unlimited money influencing elections, so long as they do not coordinate directly with candidate campaigns. Since then, there has been tremendous coordination between campaigns and their super PACs, making a mockery of the “independence” the Supreme Court said must exist.
The American Anti-Corruption Act enforces the Supreme Court’s mandate by fixing the rules aimed at preventing and punishing super PAC coordination.
Eliminate lobbyist loopholes.
The definition of “lobbyist” is weak and outdated. As a result, lobbyists regularly avoid disclosure, and former politicians and their staff can receive big money to influence politicians without formally registering as lobbyists.
The Act prevents lobbyists from skirting the rules by strengthening the definition of lobbying and penalizing lobbyists who fail to register.
Strengthen anti-corruption enforcement.
Agencies routinely fail to enforce the anti-corruption rules that already exist due to partisan deadlock – and when they are able to act, they often lack the enforcement tools necessary to uphold the law. The result is an elections system where even lax rules can be skirted or broken with impunity.
The Act strengthens enforcement of anti-corruption laws by overhauling the broken Federal Election Commission and giving prosecutors the tools they need to combat corruption."
Anti-Corruption Act
"Huge disparities in income and wealth translate into comparable disparities in political influence."
That's not exactly correct.
Those wealth disparities translate into GREATER disparities in political influence.
"At the time, [2011] Washington was firmly in the grip of deficit fever. Even though the federal government was able to borrow at historically low interest rates, everyone who mattered seemed to be saying that the budget deficit was the most important issue facing America and that it was essential to rein in spending on Social Security and Medicare."
It wasn't everyone who mattered, it was power-hungry Republicans who wanted to limit the success of Democrats, so they turned the deficit into the issue of the day.
" a CBS poll in early 2011 found only 6 percent of the public named the deficit as the most important issue, compared with 51 percent citing the economy and jobs."
Exactly. The deficit was a non-issue until Republicans over-hyped it.
The answer to the OP question is that the rich have so much power because corruption is legal in our government.
We have to fix that by supporting the Anti-Corruption Act:
" Anti-Corruption Act:
1
Stop political bribery
Make it illegal for politicians to take money from lobbyists.
Politicians get extraordinary sums of money in the form of campaign donations from the special interests who lobby them. In return, politicians create laws favorable to these special interests – even when those laws hurt voters.
Under the American Anti-Corruption Act, people who get paid to lobby cannot donate to politicians.
Ban lobbyist bundling.
Lobbyists regularly bundle together big contributions from their friends and colleagues and deliver them in one lump sum to politicians. This turns lobbyists into major fundraisers, giving politicians an incentive to keep them happy by working political favors.
The Act prohibits lobbyists from bundling contributions.
Close the revolving door.
Lobbyists and special interests routinely offer public officials high-paying lobbying jobs. Politicians and their staff routinely move straight from government to these lucrative lobbying jobs, where they get paid to influence their former colleagues.
The Act stops elected representatives and senior staff from selling off their government power for high-paying lobbying jobs, prohibits them from negotiating jobs while in office, and bars them from paid lobbying activity for several years once they leave.
Prevent politicians from fundraising during working hours.
Most federal politicians spend between 3 and 7 hours a day fundraising from big donors instead of working on issues that matter to voters.
Under the Act, politicians are prevented from raising money during the workday, when they should be serving their constituents.
2
End Secret Money
Immediately disclose political money online.
Current disclosure laws are outdated and broken. Many donations are not disclosed for months, and some are never made available electronically, making it difficult for citizens and journalists to follow the money in our political system.
The Anti-Corruption Act ensures that all significant political fundraising and spending is immediately disclosed online and made easily accessible to the public.
Stop donors from hiding behind secret-money groups.
Elections are being flooded with big money funneled through groups with secret donors. These secretive groups spend money directly to influence elections and make unlimited contributions to super PACs, which run ads to elect and defeat candidates.
Under the Act, any organization that spends meaningful funds on political advertisements is required to file a timely online report disclosing its major donors.
3
Fix Our Broken Elections
End gerrymandering.
Politicians are intentionally drawing the lines around voters in order to guarantee their own re-election and give their political party an unfair advantage.
The Anti-Corruption Act ends gerrymandering by creating independent, fully transparent redistricting commissions that follow strict guidelines to ensure accurate representation for all voters, regardless of political party.
Let all voters participate in open primaries.
By controlling the primaries, the political establishment controls which candidates we can vote on.
The Act makes all candidates for the same office compete in a single, open primary controlled by voters, not the political establishment. This gives voters more control over our elections and more choices at the ballot.
Let voters rank their top candidates, avoid “spoilers.”
Outdated voting systems force voters to choose between the “lesser of two evils” at the ballot box or vote for a “spoiler” candidate.
Under the Act, voters can rank their top candidates, allowing them to support their top choice without fear of inadvertently helping elect the other party’s candidate. If their top choice isn’t going to win, their vote transfers to their second choice, and so on. This makes it easier to elect independent-minded candidates who aren’t beholden to establishment special interests.
Automatic voter registration.
Our voter rolls and registration systems are outdated, error-prone, and costly. New and proven systems can save taxpayer money and ensure that all eligible voters are able to participate on Election Day.
The Act automatically registers all interested eligible voters when they interact with government agencies – whether it’s when they go to the DMV, get a hunting license, apply for food assistance, or sign up for the national guard. Voters can always opt-out from being registered. Information is transmitted electronically and securely to a central source maintained by the state.
Vote at home or at the polls.
Election Day is a mess. Forcing voters to take time off from work and their families to stand in long lines on a Tuesday is ineffective, insecure, and outdated.
The Act improves voter service by sending ballots to voters at home and allowing them to mail it back on their own timeframe, or drop it off at a professionally-staffed voting center. Voters can still vote in person or receive assistance at a voting center.
Reasonable term limits.
When elected officials are allowed to become career politicians, our elections become uncompetitive and new ideas have a harder time being heard.
The Act sets reasonable term limits of 18 years total at each level of government, so that candidates focus on public service instead of staying in office.
Change how elections are funded.
Running a political campaign is expensive, but few Americans can afford to donate to political campaigns. That makes politicians dependent upon – and therefore responsive to – a tiny fraction of special-interest donors.
The Act offers every voter a small credit they can use to make a political donation with no out-of-pocket expense. Candidates and political groups are only eligible to receive these credits if they agree to fundraise solely from small donors. The Act also empowers political action committees that only take donations from small donors, giving everyday people a stronger voice in our elections.
4
Enforce the Rules
Crack down on super PACs.
As a result of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, the Supreme Court ruled that super PACs can spend unlimited money influencing elections, so long as they do not coordinate directly with candidate campaigns. Since then, there has been tremendous coordination between campaigns and their super PACs, making a mockery of the “independence” the Supreme Court said must exist.
The American Anti-Corruption Act enforces the Supreme Court’s mandate by fixing the rules aimed at preventing and punishing super PAC coordination.
Eliminate lobbyist loopholes.
The definition of “lobbyist” is weak and outdated. As a result, lobbyists regularly avoid disclosure, and former politicians and their staff can receive big money to influence politicians without formally registering as lobbyists.
The Act prevents lobbyists from skirting the rules by strengthening the definition of lobbying and penalizing lobbyists who fail to register.
Strengthen anti-corruption enforcement.
Agencies routinely fail to enforce the anti-corruption rules that already exist due to partisan deadlock – and when they are able to act, they often lack the enforcement tools necessary to uphold the law. The result is an elections system where even lax rules can be skirted or broken with impunity.
The Act strengthens enforcement of anti-corruption laws by overhauling the broken Federal Election Commission and giving prosecutors the tools they need to combat corruption."
Anti-Corruption Act
Obama was a disaster all the way around the block, a reality that far too few Americans grasp.
I feel good that I figured out that he was a fraud just 4 months into his butt being in the POTUS chair.
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
Sure. Bush was president during the economic collapse. Obama sought to put the US on better economic footing. I criticize Obama but that is still the fact.
The answer is that too many people decided that wealth belongs to whom ever holds it, and that it is just fine and dandy to use that wealth to pursue gaining more wealth, in the pursuit of personal greed. Those who hold wealth are custodians of that wealth, it belongs to the society, they who hold wealth have an obligation to deploy that wealth for the betterment of the all, for the greater good....to not do that leads to societal break down....you know....what America is now experiencing.
Dont blame me...I have been on the alarms on this for over three decades.
Dont blame me...I have been on the alarms on this for over three decades.
The fact is that all of our recent Presidents have been no where near good enough, because the system is broken, America is broken.
But Obama fooled me for awhile....I believed in him for about a year, till we voted him in and he betrayed us, till he made no effort to do what he said he was going to try to do.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
More like it is one of the most common corrupt practices of big government.
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
I don't really care about the ethics of a wealthy person. No nation can survive with a small ownership class and withering middle class.
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
I lost interest in Obama during his first term and refused to vote him in for a second term.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
If you looked at his background carefully--something both he and his willing accomplices in the MSM hid as much as they could--you'd have known the guy was an empty suit, all hat no cattle, all talk no action.
Obama made a good politician but he was an incompetent leader and manager and he had the track record to prove it.
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
Obama worked for the oligarchs. It's that simple.
You should....looking at America through this prism brings great understanding of what has gone wrong.
At root the problem is that the naive men of the Enlightenment thought that greed could be empowered and then harnessed to make everyone better....what they did not understand is that greed is too big a tiger for most people to tame, which is why our ancestors tended to always warn about the dangers of greed.
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
Not necessarily disputing what you're saying. I just don't care about ethics or spiritual transformations. All about politics and laws. Let the greedy man collect wealth--just pay your taxes.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Obama didn't know what was going on, and apparently really didn't care. He was known to miss many briefings, meetings, and not bother to read the "cliff notes" version of those meetings later.
Taxes which a lot of times should be in the 60%-80% range....they used to be.....till the wealthy corrupted government and got the rates vastly lowered.
LIKE THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL SEEKING TO REMOVE POLICE PROTECTION FOR THE CITIZENS, WHILE ENJOYING THEIR OWN PERSONAL, PRIVATE ARMED-SECURITY, AND FORCING THOSE SAME TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR IT???
LIKE THAT???
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
jacksonsprat22
Verified User
Exactly.