4 People Died in Benghazi and Republicans had hearings for the next 4 years.

[MSgt]

I was thinking the same with you.

At the risk of feeding your boredom, certain illiberal ideologies have positioned themselves as the enemies of liberalism since the mid-19th century. One can only imagine how such a thing could be possible, coming from such an oddly termed thing as illiberalism (most notably, Marxism, fascism, and Nazism).

 

[AProudLefty]

Well, we're not going to get any of the from certain proud posters tonight. Are we?

If I recall correctly, the claim that Democrat politicians "condone" the looting and rioting because they are "afraid" to lose black and brown voters.

Do you understand how insane that sounds?

 

[MSgt]

If I recall correctly, the claim that Democrat politicians "condone" the looting and rioting because they are "afraid" to lose black and brown voters.

Do you understand how insane that sounds?

Like the basic reality we are all privileged to live with every day?

 

[AProudLefty]

Like the basic reality we are all privileged to live with every day?

Not sure what you mean.

 

[MSgt]

Not sure what you mean.

That's cool. Tomorrow will be no different.

 

[AProudLefty]

That's cool. Tomorrow will be no different.

Oh okay. I'll wait till tomorrow for you to explain the actual point.

 

[Cinnabar]

[h=1]We just hit 150,000 COVID-19 Deaths According to Worldometer[/h]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

4 people died in Benghazi and Republicans had hearings for the next 4 years. That's 1 year for every person who died in the attack. The Democrats should have coronavirus hearings for the next decade at a minimum.

Also, we need criminal investigations and prosecutions.

These people need to see the inside of jail cells for what they've done to the American people.

The Dems have to change their ways as well or we will get another shit-stain like Trump down the road...only the next one will be smarter and therefore even more dangerous.

 

[StoneByStone]

Crony capitalism is just an example of government involvement resulting in illiberal practices.

Crony Capitalism is the natural result of Capitalism. Socialism has been achieves here and there, but so-called "true" Capitalism has never been achieved because it will ALWAYS lead to Crony Capitalism.

There's a bit more to the BLM story than that.
https://fee.org/articles/is-black-lives-matter-marxist-no-and-yes/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/foundation-for-economic-education/

Most of that article is opinion. And yes, some people in the BLM movement are Marxist. So what? Most of them aren't. And more importantly, the message they put out, the marches they do, are never about Marxism.
Look at it like this. The programmable computer was invented by an Atheist. Now does that mean anyone who builds a programmable computer is an Atheist? Does that mean programmable computers are inherently atheist? Of course not.
It doesn't matter that some of the people who march under the BLM banner are Marxists. All that matters is what they're fighting for. And if you do think this is some kind of sneaky plot by Marxists, keep in mind that 90% of BLM knows nothing about Marxism.

 

[StoneByStone]

Sarcasm?

 

[StoneByStone]

Sarcasm again?

Think about how Black Twitter would react to tons of videos depicting BLM protesters being put down, sometimes violently.

I don't like that Trump's secret police have taken advantage of this situation, but I also blame local police for letting it get this bad.

 

[MSgt]

Crony Capitalism is the natural result of Capitalism. Socialism has been achieves here and there, but so-called "true" Capitalism has never been achieved because it will ALWAYS lead to Crony Capitalism.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/foundation-for-economic-education/

Most of that article is opinion. And yes, some people in the BLM movement are Marxist. So what? Most of them aren't. And more importantly, the message they put out, the marches they do, are never about Marxism.
Look at it like this. The programmable computer was invented by an Atheist. Now does that mean anyone who builds a programmable computer is an Atheist? Does that mean programmable computers are inherently atheist? Of course not.
It doesn't matter that some of the people who march under the BLM banner are Marxists. All that matters is what they're fighting for. And if you do think this is some kind of sneaky plot by Marxists, keep in mind that 90% of BLM knows nothing about Marxism.

Crony Capitalism is no more an automatic result of market liberalism than is fascism an automatic result of political liberalism. Government need not be corrupted to that level by elections and establishments.

The fact that there are so many radicals involved with BLM explains why the otherwise mindless and puzzling nature of the riots have persisted.

 

[Nordberg]

McCarthy said it clearly. Hillary investigations were designed to hurt her polling numbers and he was happy that it worked. The people in politics know what they were doing and why. The Trumpies will never get it.

 

[StoneByStone]

Crony Capitalism is no more an automatic result of market liberalism than is fascism an automatic result of political liberalism. Government need not be corrupted to that level by elections and establishments.

So why does Capitalism ALWAYS lead to Crony Capitalism?

The fact that there are so many radicals involved with BLM explains why the otherwise mindless and puzzling nature of the riots have persisted.

Sure, but that doesn't mean it's a Marxist plot. And I don't see evidence that there are many radicals involved. I think most of the rioters are just people who want to riot.

 

[Nordberg]

So many people making judgements about protests who have never been in one. They are not larks. You have to go out expecting cops and rightys will be violent. It is not easy to keep from defending yourself. You will get tear gassed and clubbed by cops. Now Trump has his own troops being more violent. I feel sorry for those who protest. Like the front line of suburban women who were using their society positions to defuse the violence. It did not work. The cops tear gassed and beat them too.

 

[AProudLefty]

Think about how Black Twitter would react to tons of videos depicting BLM protesters being put down, sometimes violently.

I don't like that Trump's secret police have taken advantage of this situation, but I also blame local police for letting it get this bad.

BLM protesters have the right to protest peacefully. No reason to "put them down".

And you just gave one more reason that Trump will not win.

 

[StoneByStone]

BLM protesters have the right to protest peacefully. No reason to "put them down".

And you just gave one more reason that Trump will not win.

But there are also protesters who started the violence. By the city not dealing with them, they opened the door for Trump, who took advantage.

How is this a reason that Trump won't win?

 

[AProudLefty]

But there are also protesters who started the violence. By the city not dealing with them, they opened the door for Trump, who took advantage.

How is this a reason that Trump won't win?

You said this: "I don't like that Trump's secret police have taken advantage of this situation". How many likes that?

Anyway, the BLM is not responsible for the violence. And remember that guy that got hit in the forehead with a projectile, almost killing him? He was peaceful.

 

[StoneByStone]

You said this: "I don't like that Trump's secret police have taken advantage of this situation". How many likes that?

Trumpcucks like that because they're Fascists.

My reason for thinking Trump is going to win is this. The candidate with the more enthusiastic support always wins. Trump's supporters love him. Biden's supports think he's the lesser evil. This means that there will be plenty of people who, while preferring Biden, won't actually bother to vote.

Anyway, the BLM is not responsible for the violence. And remember that guy that got hit in the forehead with a projectile, almost killing him? He was peaceful.

Before the feds got to Portland, there was already violent rioting. I know some cops were egging the peaceful protesters on, often violently, but there were also rioters who just wanted to riot.

 

[AProudLefty]

Trumpcucks like that because they're Fascists.

My reason for thinking Trump is going to win is this. The candidate with the more enthusiastic support always wins. Trump's supporters love him. Biden's supports think he's the lesser evil. This means that there will be plenty of people who, while preferring Biden, won't actually bother to vote.



Before the feds got to Portland, there was already violent rioting. I know some cops were egging the peaceful protesters on, often violently, but there were also rioters who just wanted to riot.

Yep. There will always be violence no matter who are protesting.

 

[anatta]

Bengazi was the symptom, but the NATO war on Libya (2011) was the cause
Hillary/Powers/Rice and NATO have the blood on their collective hands