Poll: Biden leads Trump by 3 points nationally

Trump is only at 40% in that poll. With that percentage of voters supporting him, Trump is toast.

But to look at it critically:
This poll is an outlier. The Hill tends to skew about 4 points compared to other polls taken in the same time period. Would you put your trust in a poll showing Biden with a 15 point lead that came out 2 weeks ago? That one is also an outlier.

I would be careful with this poll since it has 17% undecided. In May, the Hill showed Trump only 1 point behind Biden with 17% undecided so this is actually worse for Trump and would imply he is doing worse over time. Or it could be that when you look at all the Hill polls, this one is simply showing the bottom range of the statistical variation. We see a range from 3 - 10 point Biden lead with the Hill in the last couple of months. 10 is likely the high end of the range and 3 is the low end and the 5-7 range is the middle. But both candidates have been in a 4-6 point range for support. Biden has been 41-47. Trump has been 37-41. With a 3 point margin of error 41 is the same as 47 and 37 is the same as 41.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Trump is only at 40% in that poll. With that percentage of voters supporting him, Trump is toast.

But to look at it critically:
This poll is an outlier. The Hill tends to skew about 4 points compared to other polls taken in the same time period. Would you put your trust in a poll showing Biden with a 15 point lead that came out 2 weeks ago? That one is also an outlier.

I would be careful with this poll since it has 17% undecided. In May, the Hill showed Trump only 1 point behind Biden with 17% undecided so this is actually worse for Trump and would imply he is doing worse over time. Or it could be that when you look at all the Hill polls, this one is simply showing the bottom range of the statistical variation. We see a range from 3 - 10 point Biden lead with the Hill in the last couple of months. 10 is likely the high end of the range and 3 is the low end and the 5-7 range is the middle. But both candidates have been in a 4-6 point range for support. Biden has been 41-47. Trump has been 37-41. With a 3 point margin of error 41 is the same as 47 and 37 is the same as 41.
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Well, Poor Dick, Hillary had a 91% chance of winning the presidency. NYT’s

Que Paso?
 
Earl said:
The president was magnanimous in victory.

He did offer to buy Hillary’s celebratory fireworks...for 10 cents on the dollar.
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I thought that was very nice of him. Sign of a good winner! :cool:
 
Hillary’s supporters were there all night and after losing, she was so un-gracious that she would not come out that night and speak to her supporters.She sent a stand in, a surrogate.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Trump is only at 40% in that poll. With that percentage of voters supporting him, Trump is toast.

But to look at it critically:
This poll is an outlier. The Hill tends to skew about 4 points compared to other polls taken in the same time period. Would you put your trust in a poll showing Biden with a 15 point lead that came out 2 weeks ago? That one is also an outlier.

I would be careful with this poll since it has 17% undecided. In May, the Hill showed Trump only 1 point behind Biden with 17% undecided so this is actually worse for Trump and would imply he is doing worse over time. Or it could be that when you look at all the Hill polls, this one is simply showing the bottom range of the statistical variation. We see a range from 3 - 10 point Biden lead with the Hill in the last couple of months. 10 is likely the high end of the range and 3 is the low end and the 5-7 range is the middle. But both candidates have been in a 4-6 point range for support. Biden has been 41-47. Trump has been 37-41. With a 3 point margin of error 41 is the same as 47 and 37 is the same as 41.
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Shut the fuck up Dick, you're truly snoring boring!
 
Stone said:
I thought that was very nice of him. Sign of a good winner! :cool:
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Indeed it was.

It was a thoughtful thing to do.

Her campaign lost all of the cost of the celebratory fireworks when they could have recouped 10%.

How dumb is that?
 
Earl said:
Hillary’s supporters were there all night and after losing, she was so un-gracious that she would not come out that night and speak to her supporters.She sent a stand in.
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Yep. Rumor has it she was in no condition to come out. Half drunk and in an absolute fit of RAGE. Throwing a giant fit back stage, screaming, cussing, throwing and smashing things,.... she even gave old Bill a good slap across the kisser. She was REALLY a sight to see. Inconsolable. At one point she even passed out,.... Im told Bill had to wave a big roll of hundred dollar bills under her nose like smelling salts to get her to come to. :awesome:
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Trump is only at 40% in that poll. With that percentage of voters supporting him, Trump is toast.

But to look at it critically:
This poll is an outlier. The Hill tends to skew about 4 points compared to other polls taken in the same time period. Would you put your trust in a poll showing Biden with a 15 point lead that came out 2 weeks ago? That one is also an outlier.

I would be careful with this poll since it has 17% undecided. In May, the Hill showed Trump only 1 point behind Biden with 17% undecided so this is actually worse for Trump and would imply he is doing worse over time. Or it could be that when you look at all the Hill polls, this one is simply showing the bottom range of the statistical variation. We see a range from 3 - 10 point Biden lead with the Hill in the last couple of months. 10 is likely the high end of the range and 3 is the low end and the 5-7 range is the middle. But both candidates have been in a 4-6 point range for support. Biden has been 41-47. Trump has been 37-41. With a 3 point margin of error 41 is the same as 47 and 37 is the same as 41.
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I trust Fivethirtyeight and they give HarrisX a C+ rating. There are far better polls, but since it is a heavily leaning conservative poll, Trump polling low should indeed be a concern.
 
Earl said:
Indeed it was.

It was a thoughtful thing to do.

Her campaign lost all of the cost of the celebratory fireworks when they could have recouped 10%.

How dumb is that?
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Yep. And gee,.... as luck would have it....for SOME REASON :thinking: the donations for the Clinton foundation really took a nosedive as soon as she lost. Hmmmm,....wonder why? LOL When she was Secretary of State and again when she was running against Trump the money was FLOWING in,........then POOF! Just kinda dried up. Funny how that works....;)
 
Secret weapon number one,....but one of many...;)

1. Trump voters are sooooooooooo sick of being ragged on by crazy lefties that besides anonymous message boards and among themselves they tend to keep their support to them self. They are also deeply distrustful of media and polling.

The hidden Trump support is MASSIVE .


Choose to disbelieve this fact at your own peril.
 
Stone said:
Yep. And gee,.... as luck would have it....for SOME REASON :thinking: the donations for the Clinton foundation really took a nosedive as soon as she lost. Hmmmm,....wonder why? LOL When she was Secretary of State and again when she was running against Trump the money was FLOWING in,........then POOF! Just kinda dried up. Funny how that works....;)
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No more “Pay to Play” for which she and the sexual predator should have gone to Federal Prison.
 
Earl said:
No more “Pay to Play” for which she and the sexual predator should have gone to Federal Prison.
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Yep.....there are a lot of very wealthy powerful people that have been pretty pissed at Hillary since she lost. In fact in some circles her name is MUD. All that BRIBE money just pissed away with yesterdays champagne. ;)
 
BTW......I have a little PSSSSSST for you all. Its no secret that there were tons of problems with lefties coming into folks yards and damaging political yard signs in the last election. Nobody wants to deal with the problems of that kinda crap. The new thing among some Trump supporters is to install an American flag in your yard either on a pole or off your house. Nobody is going to come saw your flag pole down....not normally anyway! Im seeing a ton of new flags installed in my area of late, myself included. Take notice in your areas,.... you will too! ;)

Like I said,.... hidden support.
 
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