Beirut Explosion

AProudLefty said:
"The Russian vessel, named MV Rhosus, carrying agricultural fertilizer with 2,750 metric tons of ammonium nitrate and en route to Mozambique hit a financial snag and docked in the Beruit port in 2013, according to legal documents and Lebanese officials, the Washington Post reported."

We'll wait until investigation is over.
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Has anyone done the math on whether or not that amount of fertilizer would create the size of the explosion witnessed?
 
Matt Dillon said:
Almost 3000 tons? Yes it would.
I think McVeigh used 2 tons? Multiply that by 1315 or so.
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I see you made it correct for Americans. Nice job. I have noticed the qty went from 2700 tonnes to 2700 tons in the media. Two different things. Good job.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Almost 3000 tons? Yes it would.
I think McVeigh used 2 tons? Multiply that by 1315 or so.
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ROFL. First, you guessed. Second, all you'd done is prove you can't divide by two.

A real engineer would have been anal enough to look it up and verify their facts then presented those facts with links. Something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing#Gathering_materials
In October 1994, McVeigh showed Michael and Lori Fortier a diagram he had drawn of the bomb he wanted to build.[42] McVeigh planned to construct a bomb containing more than 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with about 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of liquid nitromethane and 350 pounds (160 kg) of Tovex. Including the weight of the sixteen 55-U.S.-gallon drums in which the explosive mixture was to be packed, the bomb would have a combined weight of about 7,000 pounds (3,200 kg).
 
Dutch Uncle said:
ROFL. First, you guessed. Second, all you'd done is prove you can't divide by two.

A real engineer would have been anal enough to look it up and verify their facts then presented those facts with links. Something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing#Gathering_materials
In October 1994, McVeigh showed Michael and Lori Fortier a diagram he had drawn of the bomb he wanted to build.[42] McVeigh planned to construct a bomb containing more than 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with about 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of liquid nitromethane and 350 pounds (160 kg) of Tovex. Including the weight of the sixteen 55-U.S.-gallon drums in which the explosive mixture was to be packed, the bomb would have a combined weight of about 7,000 pounds (3,200 kg).
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It is crazy they are making this information readily available out there.
 
Sailor said:
I see you made it correct for Americans. Nice job. I have noticed the qty went from 2700 tonnes to 2700 tons in the media. Two different things. Good job.
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That's because reporters are about as ignorant about science as our boy Matt. They wouldn't know the difference if a 33 metric ton cement truck ran over them. :)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
ROFL. First, you guessed. Second, all you'd done is prove you can't divide by two.

A real engineer would have been anal enough to look it up and verify their facts then presented those facts with links. Something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing#Gathering_materials
In October 1994, McVeigh showed Michael and Lori Fortier a diagram he had drawn of the bomb he wanted to build.[42] McVeigh planned to construct a bomb containing more than 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with about 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of liquid nitromethane and 350 pounds (160 kg) of Tovex. Including the weight of the sixteen 55-U.S.-gallon drums in which the explosive mixture was to be packed, the bomb would have a combined weight of about 7,000 pounds (3,200 kg).
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I didn't become an engineer. What McVeigh wanted to do and what was actually done may be 2 different things entirely. Did you ever even consider that, trapped thinking-in-a-box boy?
Look tard, you are going to lose and I will bitchsmack you at every turn. This will be fun for me, and painful for you. But by all means do carry on with your nonsense if you do so wish.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
That's because reporters are about as ignorant about science as our boy Matt. They wouldn't know the difference if a 33 metric ton cement truck ran over them. :)
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Nobody knows the difference if a 33 metric ton cement truck rolls over them, dumbass.

Are you claiming you know how to make Ammonium Nitrate explode now? Maybe them alphabet agencies need to be checking you out, bitch!

Personally I think you know jack shit and need some TP for your lips.
 
It was rather reckless to store ammonium nitrate in a populated area; it should have been stored outside the city limits a good distance away.
 
Sailor said:
It is crazy they are making this information readily available out there.
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I know you are a bit younger than me but I'm not sure how much younger. Back in the late 70s/early 80s one the fishing and hunting magazines had a "fun facts"-type page on the last page. It usually had a one-page article about something like a homemade blind or setting up a salt lick, etc. In the issue I distinctly remember it gave a way to make a homemade duck pond. It was basically a recipe of one bag of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, one can of diesel oil and a blasting cap. Lay it flat where you want the pond, cut a foot-wide "X" in the middle of the bag, drizzle in the oil, let it soak in, insert blasting cap (fused or wired), move to a safe distance. Result? 10 foot wide, 2 feet deep instant duck pond. Just add water and ducks.

There were also a shit-ton (not to be confused with a metric ton) of books like "Anarchist's Cookbook", "The Poor Man James Bond", etc with all kinds of cool tips. :)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I know you are a bit younger than me but I'm not sure how much younger. Back in the late 70s/early 80s one the fishing and hunting magazines had a "fun facts"-type page on the last page. It usually had a one-page article about something like a homemade blind or setting up a salt lick, etc. In the issue I distinctly remember it gave a way to make a homemade duck pond. It was basically a recipe of one bag of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, one can of diesel oil and a blasting cap. Lay it flat where you want the pond, cut a foot-wide "X" in the middle of the bag, drizzle in the oil, let is soak in, insert blasting cap (fused or wired), move to a safe distance. Result? 10 foot wide, 2 feet deep instant duck pond. Just add water and ducks.
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Back then people had the common sense to know what to do with it. That is the difference! I used to like those type of magazines. All sorts of useful information.
 
Matt Dillon said:
I didn't become an engineer. What McVeigh wanted to do and what was actually done may be 2 different things entirely. Did you ever even consider that, trapped thinking-in-a-box boy?
Look tard, you are going to lose and I will bitchsmack you at every turn. This will be fun for me, and painful for you. But by all means do carry on with your nonsense if you do so wish.
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Duh. No shit. That's what I've been pointing out despite all of your bragging about how many "genius engineers" you personally know.
 
Sailor said:
Back then people had the common sense to know what to do with it. That is the difference! I used to like those type of magazines. All sorts of useful information.
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Agreed. As a 14 year old, I could walk in a drug store, buy a pound of potassium nitrate, a half pound of sulfur, crush charcoal briquettes and mix in the standard ratio of 75% potassium nitrate, 15% charcoal, and 10% sulfur. The druggist's comment when I was leaving? "Don't blow your hands off!" LOL It was a different time for sure. Nowadays if you even talk about doing something like that the Feds will have your house surrounded.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. As a 14 year old, I could walk in a drug store, buy a pound of potassium nitrate, a half pound of sulfur, crush charcoal briquettes and mix in the standard ratio of 75% potassium nitrate, 15% charcoal, and 10% sulfur. The druggist's comment when I was leaving? "Don't blow your hands off!" LOL It was a different time for sure. Nowadays if you even talk about doing something like that the Feds will have your house surrounded.
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EXACTLY!! People trusted each other back then. And they let you learn from your own mistakes. A whole different time for sure.
 
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