The News as We Once Knew It Is Dead

Dutch Uncle said:
Cite the quote please. Which Democrats are so fucking stupid as to trod out the old "Bush lied" BS?
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you degenerate fucking moron. there are a bunch of them

Trump lied, people died. We're in a very sad situation here because it's about the role of government to protect the American people,' Speaker Pelosi said at her press conference on Capitol Hill on Thursday.
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Darth Omar said:
However, the real warping of the news is not just a matter of slanting coverage, but deliberately not covering the news at all.
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You're right. By spiking stories that don't fit the leftist narrative and employing "fact-checkers" (who are not independently fact-checked by anyone who is a leftist, BTW) to dismiss other points of view, the left controls the media and the information that shapes public discourse. I believe this was done by design, over the course of years.


It goes deeper. Facebook, Google/YouTube, and Twitter all censor what people can see on their platforms.
 
Flash said:
It's effective with everyone. Experiments show if people receive repeated messages telling them X is not true eventually believe X is true although it is contrary to the message they have been receiving.
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Not everyone. Easier to convince the stupid than a skeptical, educated person. The latter know to check the facts....if they haven't already verified the facts because most "news" is just the same shit all day long.
 
Legion said:
You're right. By spiking stories that don't fit the leftist narrative and employing "fact-checkers" (who are not independently fact-checked by anyone who is a leftist, BTW) to dismiss other points of view, the left controls the media and the information that shapes public discourse. I believe this was done by design, over the course of years.


It goes deeper. Facebook, Google/YouTube, and Twitter all censor what people can see on their platforms.
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Tell us there "copy and paste," who exactly are the "Jeff Ronset Corp" and "Notes for Space Cadets," as far as anyone knows, they could be Russian propaganda sites, you got anything to show us they aren't?
 
Stretch said:
And, Juan Williams needs to be on MSNBC. He's oblivious to facts.
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Rupert Murdoch turned Fox News over to his successors.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/22/business/coronavirus-fox-news-lachlan-murdoch.html

Disney (largely owned by Communist Chinese investors) forced youngest son James (he's something of a lefty) out at 20th Century Fox, and the Murdoch brothers are engaged in internecine warfare.

https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/2020/04/14/can-we-talk-about-american-medias-connections-to-chinese-interests-n2566887

The network is now turning into another shill platform for the left. They even hired Donna Brazile.

https://www.aim.org/aim-column/rupert-murdoch-picks-liberal-son-as-successor/

ttps://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/america/010820/disagreements-over-editorial-content-james-murdoch-quits-news-corp.html
 
archives said:
Exactly, "You don't get to call journalists liars simply for debunking Trump's nonsense," lying is part of Trump's schtick, he has been telling them his whole life, if you do it enough people will begin to just accept it, plus, it will get you coverage, and in his world, as long as you are the news regardless of why, the other guy ain't
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People think if the media reports news negative toward their candidate (Mueller investigation) it means the media is lying. I heard a guy recently claim the media was "lying to us" because it carried polls showing Biden in the lead.
 
Darth Omar said:
However, the real warping of the news is not just a matter of slanting coverage, but deliberately not covering the news at all.

In the last two weeks, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has achieved the most stunning breakthroughs in Middle Eastern diplomacy in over half a century. [VDH from link]
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This.

Covering it isn’t ‘mentioning it’: It’s the amount of broadcast minutes dedicated to the story.
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There was a lot of coverage of this event in the media (TV doesn't count as news).
 
anchovies said:
Tell us there "copy and paste," who exactly are the "Jeff Ronset Corp" and "Notes for Space Cadets," as far as anyone knows, they could be Russian propaganda sites, you got anything to show us they aren't?
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The interview (from 1984) is on a number of YouTube channels, Anchovies. I picked the first one that came up in my search. Instead of fixating on whose channel it's on, try educating yourself about who Yuri Bezmenov was and the significance of his information. Naturally, I'll understand if you won't.
 
Flash said:
People think if the media reports news negative toward their candidate (Mueller investigation) it means the media is lying. I heard a guy recently claim the media was "lying to us" because it carried polls showing Biden in the lead.
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The polls are often slanted (questions asked, sample selection, oversampling, etc.).
 
anchovies said:
Well if you corrected it countless times you should know I don't give a damn how it is spelled, everyone including you know what I am saying, so the point it taken And the "intellectual sloppiness" is comical coming from one who ninety nine percent of the time offers nothing but corny copy and pastes, the other one percent bans anyone who can challenge him
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Your attitude toward spelling and grammar indicates that you are predisposed to take a lackadaisical approach to information as well, IMO.
 
archives said:
Not sure about the effective part, four years in and I thing it has reached its' point of diminishing returns with most Americans
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No doubt there's a lot of fatigue involved in it too due to a two year election season. 24 months of the hype and bullshit becomes especially tiring. We'll no sooner be over this election when the Midterms will come into season.
 
Flash said:
People think if the media reports news negative toward their candidate (Mueller investigation) it means the media is lying. I heard a guy recently claim the media was "lying to us" because it carried polls showing Biden in the lead.
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Mueller blew up in the Dems & Deep State faces. He couldn't find a single instance of Russian collusion/conspiracy.
Yet the press treated like it was a well known fact

Another type of fake news is leaking anonymous sources with an agenda and then claiming a scoop
They got played so bad, and still to this day try to keep that alive
 
Legion said:
The interview (from 1984) is on a number of YouTube channels, Anchovies. I picked the first one that came up in my search. Instead of fixating on whose channel it's on, try educating yourself about who Yuri Bezmenov was and the significance of his information. Naturally, I'll understand if you won't.
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And are the any of the rest of them any more credible than the one you picked? Haven't you ever heard the common sense axiom, don't believe three quarters of what you see on the Internet?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Not everyone. Easier to convince the stupid than a skeptical, educated person. The latter know to check the facts....if they haven't already verified the facts because most "news" is just the same shit all day long.
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Agreed, but those who can be most influenced by news stories are less likely to be knowledgeable and interested and less likely to watch or read it and therefore not likely to be influenced.

Anybody who believed Hillary had a child sex ring in a ping-pong/pizza parlor already hated her believing that news.

NOVA (PBS) recently showed how Russia identified those to send anti-Hillary posts. They created a game with Hillary running around trying to catch all her emails. Those who played that game (I think on Facebook) then received anti-Hillary stories.
 
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