What are Trumps qualifications again?

StoneByStone said:
Look what happened there. Trump has proven that all his critics were correct.
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Yeah.....no one can stand Peace and Prosperity. Its UN-AMERICAN. :bigthink: Yeah......that Noble Peace Prize organization is nothing but right wing extremists.

We all must be good little socialists and suffer for the good of the COLLECTIVE. The gov'ment will take care of us peons......just like that are protecting our citizens in Portland, Seattle, NY, Houston, Chicago....etc., All governed by leftist socialists who refuse federal protection. Good for states rights.....to hell with THE PEOPLE who populate them. Right....err...left Comrade?
 
Ralph said:
Yeah.....no one can stand Peace and Prosperity. Its UN-AMERICAN. :bigthink: Yeah......that Noble Peace Prize organization is nothing but right wing extremists.

We all must be good little socialists and suffer for the good of the COLLECTIVE. The gov'ment will take care of us peons......just like that are protecting our citizens in Portland, Seattle, NY, Houston, Chicago....etc., All governed by leftist socialists who refuse federal protection. Good for states rights.....to hell with THE PEOPLE who populate them. Right....err...left Comrade?
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#deflection

The point is that Trump has completely failed once again. You can talk about Democrats if you want, that's nice, but that doesn't negate Trump's failure.
 
StoneByStone said:
And look how fast he dropped that idea.

Even if he did still believe this, it would make him the exception not the rule. And he's not a Democrat, he's an Independent.
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He adopted Bernie's economic plan.

He wouldn't be the exception based on the Senate report card. There would be 23 Senators that would be considered far left based on their ideology score.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate/ideology

When you caucus with the Democrats, what you call yourself is irrelevant. When you run for the DEMOCRATIC nomination, you're a Democrat despite what you call yourself.
 
CFM said:
He adopted Bernie's economic plan.

He wouldn't be the exception based on the Senate report card. There would be 23 Senators that would be considered far left based on their ideology score.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate/ideology

When you caucus with the Democrats, what you call yourself is irrelevant. When you run for the DEMOCRATIC nomination, you're a Democrat despite what you call yourself.
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Biden is for Medicare for All now? Source?
 
StoneByStone said:
Where does it say he adopted Medicare for All?

This is the only reference to it: ""The bottom line is if we were able to magically transform Joe Biden into Bernie Sanders on adopting Medicare for All, legalizing marijuana, and a full federal jobs program, we would have celebrated that," she said."

Looks like he's still pretty moderate.
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Stop making a fool out of him..:palm:
 
StoneByStone said:
Where does it say he adopted Medicare for All?

This is the only reference to it: ""The bottom line is if we were able to magically transform Joe Biden into Bernie Sanders on adopting Medicare for All, legalizing marijuana, and a full federal jobs program, we would have celebrated that," she said."

Looks like he's still pretty moderate.
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Where did I specifically mention that one item. Moderate wouldn't support anything in Bernie's plan and Joe does.
 
CFM said:
I said Joe adopted Bernie's plan and you cherrypicked one thing while ignoring the other dozens of items.
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Well the things I'm most curious about are the actual left-wing ideas, not the moderate ideas. Looks like you were wrong, Biden hasn't adopted the left-wing ideas that would actually help lots of people like Bernie would.
It's ok, I'll still vote for Biden. But let's stop pretending he's anything other than a mild Moderate.
 
StoneByStone said:
Well the things I'm most curious about are the actual left-wing ideas, not the moderate ideas. Looks like you were wrong, Biden hasn't adopted the left-wing ideas that would actually help lots of people like Bernie would.
It's ok, I'll still vote for Biden. But let's stop pretending he's anything other than a mild Moderate.
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Biden signed Bernie's unity document, among other things it calls for ending gas cars and all fossil fuels.
Retrofitting all buildings,no more skyscrapers
That's insane right there
 
StoneByStone said:
Well the things I'm most curious about are the actual left-wing ideas, not the moderate ideas. Looks like you were wrong, Biden hasn't adopted the left-wing ideas that would actually help lots of people like Bernie would.
It's ok, I'll still vote for Biden. But let's stop pretending he's anything other than a mild Moderate.
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In other word, you'll ignore Biden adopting Bernie's programs and cherry pick one.

You'll vote for Biden because you're an idiot. Stop pretending you aren't.

Bernie's programs wouldn't help people. Enabling them to be lazy pieces of shit doesn't help them. It didn't help you.
 
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