60 percent think Biden won in post debate poll

Cypress said:
I accept your admission Trumpf is a second rate carnival barker.

I submit that only Trump worshippers could possibly be impressed with the putulent, rambling, rude, off topic rants of an angry fat man who claims to represent the office of the presidency.
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Here we go again with the "worshiping" bullshit.

Don't you clowns think the "worship" shit is getting old yet?
Damn, you people are odious.
 
Cypress said:
I grew up on the Ford-Carter and Carter-Reagan debates, and it is hard to believe there are 30 million Americans who think a blustering, carnival barker is acceptable etiquette for the office of the presidency.
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They've been fed a diet of ' America first ', ' Crush thy neighbor ' and ' It's all about the Benjamins '. The owners of their media-feed are responsible for that.
Great description, incidentally.
 
RB 60 said:
Here we go again with the "worshiping" bullshit.

Don't you clowns think the "worship" shit is getting old yet?
Damn, you people are odious.
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It's just tit-for-tat after 8 years of "Obama worship" bullshit from RWNJs. I don't agree with either, but it's common.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The 28% is Trump's base. Factor in another 30% for Biden's base and that leaves the Independents.

This election is more than just picking one of two septuagenarians as President, it's picking an entire party agenda. Both candidates were asked by Wallace to go against their own base and both danced around it without doing so.
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It was the worst and least informative presidential debate I have ever seen.

Definitely the worst etiquette of all time.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's just tit-for-tat after 8 years of "Obama worship" bullshit from RWNJs. I don't agree with either, but it's common.
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I've been on boards for a few years now and I've never seen the amount of bullshit thrown at Obama as I have at Trump.
And I have seen little or none of the worship shit until it was used against Trump supporters.
Fact is, it is bullshit. Neither "side" worships any candidate (well, I would hope so).
 
There is not a chance in hell Trump will lose to this empty suit

It's all about the economy, and law and order. America votes kitchen table, always has

prepare yourself, or don't, I, we could care less
 
RB 60 said:
I've been on boards for a few years now and I've never seen the amount of bullshit thrown at Obama as I have at Trump.
And I have seen little or none of the worship shit until it was used against Trump supporters.
Fact is, it is bullshit. Neither "side" worships any candidate (well, I would hope so).
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Have you been on since 2008? I've seen the same bullshit slammed against Obama. Some of that was just a repeat of the LW bullshit slammed against Bush for eight years. The bullshit was bad under Bush and worse under Obama. It's no better or worse under Trump.

Like Trump's behavior last night, Trump deserves a lot of the heat he's given, but no one deserves bullshit. The facts are damning enough.
 
Getin the ring said:
There is not a chance in hell Trump will lose to this empty suit

It's all about the economy, and law and order. America votes kitchen table, always has

prepare yourself, or don't, I, we could care less
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The economy is terrible. It's a big part of the reason that Trump will likely lose.

But the other is directly related to the display last night. He's just not fit to be President.
 
RB 60 said:
I am. Trump will win in 2020.

Therefore, at the end of Trump's last year, Biden could run again in 2024.

I don't know how to make it much simpler, Jack. It's simple math.
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Why do you think Trump will win?

He has been down in every poll, and needed a game changer last night. He didn't get it.
 
Getin the ring said:
you're not actually relying on polls are you ?
:laugh:

are you 12 years old?
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The biggest myth going is that the polls were "way off" in 2016. They were spot on.

The media interpretation was what was off.

Polls are generally pretty accurate. I guarantee that the Trump campaign is worried about how they look right now.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Have you been on since 2008? I've seen the same bullshit slammed against Obama. Some of that was just a repeat of the LW bullshit slammed against Bush for eight years. The bullshit was bad under Bush and worse under Obama. It's no better or worse under Trump.

Like Trump's behavior last night, Trump deserves a lot of the heat he's given, but no one deserves bullshit. The facts are damning enough.
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I'd say for at least the last 10 or 12 years now on various boards, automotive boards, longer.
Yeah, Bush did take a lot of shit. No, I'd say Trump is getting more shit than Obama did.

Biden wasn't much better. Why aren't you criticizing him too? But that's not the point.

The point is, no American "worships" any candidate. Wasn't that my quote you replied to?
 
BartenderElite said:
The biggest myth going is that the polls were "way off" in 2016. They were spot on.

The media interpretation was what was off.

Polls are generally pretty accurate. I guarantee that the Trump campaign is worried about how they look right now.
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I know how they look here in rural PA. If I were Biden, I'd be worried.
 
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