60% of Americans did not go to college.

cawacko said:
Dude, every Republican is alt-right to you.
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Not true at all. Many Republicans are in shock as to what is happening to their party. There is a (figurative) civil war happening for the future of the Republican Party.

That being said, the Alt Right has enough primary votes to steer the Republican Party, which is a death sentence for the Republican Party. I am not sure how they will get out of this death sentence, but I would certainly bet on them. There are some very smart people in the Republican Party, and they are opposing some very stupid people in the Alt Right movement.
 
cawacko said:
Dude, every Republican is alt-right to you. The funny thing is many Trump supporters like Bernie. Not in the sense that they want him to be President or support all his ideas but in his own way he's definitely anti-establishment and he took on Hillary and then Biden. You're viewing this from a personal lens and missing the big picture.
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I don't understand how there is crossover with Trump/Bernie people. Those have to be the dumbest motherfuckers alive.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You're right. The NCLEX is an extremely difficult exam. The nursing programs have a vested interest in making sure a high percentage of the students pass on the first attempt. It's good advertising. Our instructor was one of the nurses involved in creating the questions on the NCLEX so she gave us practice exams to study on. Even so, of the 37 ppl in my program, 13 didn't pass the first time.

I chose my college by calling several hospital directors of nursing, and asking "If you are given a choice between hiring a new grad from ____ or ____ or ____ or ____, which would you choose?"
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That was a smart idea. Some of those private for-private schools have been sued by students who cannot get hired because they did clinicals at nursing homes and were never in a hospital. The online programs are an even bigger joke. My wife was a nursing instructor for several years after she retired from nursing.
 
Walt said:
Not true at all. Many Republicans are in shock as to what is happening to their party. There is a (figurative) civil war happening for the future of the Republican Party.

That being said, the Alt Right has enough primary votes to steer the Republican Party, which is a death sentence for the Republican Party. I am not sure how they will get out of this death sentence, but I would certainly bet on them. There are some very smart people in the Republican Party, and they are opposing some very stupid people in the Alt Right movement.
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Lol, this is the fucking Oregon GOP.

Republicans are absolutely letting the loons run the asylum:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351656484392759297
 
Jerome said:
I don't understand how there is crossover with Trump/Bernie people. Those have to be the dumbest motherfuckers alive.
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More along the lines of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Especially in ‘16, Bernie was taking on the Democratic establishment and we saw the results of that as far as turn out for Hillary being slightly down among the left. It’s why you see certain Trump backers supporting Tulsi Gabbard. She’s taking on the DNC. It’s why certain Democrats liked McCain when he was seen as challenging Republican orthodoxy.
 
Walt said:
Not true at all. Many Republicans are in shock as to what is happening to their party. There is a (figurative) civil war happening for the future of the Republican Party.

That being said, the Alt Right has enough primary votes to steer the Republican Party, which is a death sentence for the Republican Party. I am not sure how they will get out of this death sentence, but I would certainly bet on them. There are some very smart people in the Republican Party, and they are opposing some very stupid people in the Alt Right movement.
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There was a lot of anger directed at Bernie by Democrats in ‘16 who feel he didn’t concede in time and thus enough of his supporters stayed home and cost Hillary the election. That wasn’t a disagreement about policy, that was hate as you say
 
cawacko said:
There was a lot of anger directed at Bernie by Democrats in ‘16 who feel he didn’t concede in time and thus enough of his supporters stayed home and cost Hillary the election. That wasn’t a disagreement about policy, that was hate as you say
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Sanders conceded and endorsed Clinton on July 12th, which is four months before the election. That is completely adequate to me.

I have never been a huge Sanders supporter, but he seems to have obeyed all the unofficial rules. Good guy.
 
Matt Dillon said:
When did that really start happening? They did a big admission-standard-lowering thing around when I was junior.

All classes were still taught by the Socratic method, though.
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I was at Michigan State University 85-86 and while I noticed some very disturbing things I never imagined that the Universities would outright collapse. Bret and Heather say the same thing about being at University of Michigan in the early 90's. I think what we are looking for is the date when the faculty lost control to the bureaucrats....I know that happened but I dont know when that happened....the book at the link claims that it had happened by 2013.

https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Faculty-Benjamin-Ginsberg/dp/0199975434
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I was at Michigan State University 85-86 and while I noticed some very disturbing things I never imagined that the Universities would outright collapse. Bret and Heather say the same thing about being at University of Michigan in the early 90's. I think what we are looking for is the date when the faculty lost control to the bureaucrats....I know that happened but I dont know when that happened....the book at the link claims that it had happened by 2013.

https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Faculty-Benjamin-Ginsberg/dp/0199975434
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So sometime before 2013?
I would put it at right around 2002-2006. That's when admission standards dropped and the whole Uncle-Sugar backed student loan for unqualified students so they can default and America picks up the tab thing began.
 
Matt Dillon said:
So sometime before 2013?
I would put it at right around 2002-2006. That's when admission standards dropped and the whole Uncle-Sugar backed student loan for unqualified students so they can default and America picks up the tab thing began.
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I have a memory of hearing Jordan Peterson saying maybe 2017 or 2018 that the Universities have been pumping out indoctrinated Woke for about 15 years, which is the early end of your range.
 
Walt said:
Not true at all. Many Republicans are in shock as to what is happening to their party. There is a (figurative) civil war happening for the future of the Republican Party.

That being said, the Alt Right has enough primary votes to steer the Republican Party, which is a death sentence for the Republican Party. I am not sure how they will get out of this death sentence, but I would certainly bet on them. There are some very smart people in the Republican Party, and they are opposing some very stupid people in the Alt Right movement.
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There is a sound lesson here for the Democratic party, not to let the fringe element outpower the greater whole. I don't know what form that would take,
but in the case of Republicans it was a charismatic rich ignoramus and a cult addiction to his toxic methods undermining the free will of the more temperate
personalities who were elected to rep these regions. So we never want a firebrand left wing immoral demagogue for potus to promise communism,
open borders, and world government. That would be the obverse of the Trump coin, and I don't see Democrats being that stupid, as Repukes actually were.
On reflection we will never make that mistake on our side, and actually be what their hysterical lies and rhetoric claim every ding dong day about Dems.

That's why I can assert without any equivocation that I believe we are actually, truly, better, more moral and more intelligent people than they. I will never be
a Republican again. They are dead to me. I am what they lost in the Faustian bargain, the brainy and good people.
 
Nordberg said:
In colonial days that was a big part of education. College made you into a well-read all around educated person. They respected speaking and reading more than one language. Philosophy. science and reading classics were respected. Now college is a very, very expensive apprenticeship. You see people here scoffing at those who went to broaden themselves.
Why did you take philosophy and logic? What did you learn from English and History classes? The answer is a hell of a lot.
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I agree. I was a Bio major but I took more liberal arts classes then was required for my major cause I enjoyed them and learned a lot of new and interesting.
 
Nordberg said:
In colonial days that was a big part of education. College made you into a well-read all around educated person. They respected speaking and reading more than one language. Philosophy. science and reading classics were respected. Now college is a very, very expensive apprenticeship. You see people here scoffing at those who went to broaden themselves.
Why did you take philosophy and logic? What did you learn from English and History classes? The answer is a hell of a lot.
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Einstein always said what set him apart from other physicists, was that he spent his time in college studying philosophy and history in addition to physics and math. Einstein maintained his wide-ranging interest in the liberal arts and sciences made him a more creative and imaginative thinker.
 
Cypress said:
Einstein always said what set him apart from other physicists, was that he spent his time in college studying philosophy and history in addition to physics and math. Einstein maintained his wide-ranging interest in the liberal arts and sciences made him a more creative and imaginative thinker.
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Heisenberg and Bohr were actually quite sophisticated philosophers.
 
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