BartenderElite
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The Op is not about who won or lost. Did you read it?
It's a whinefest.
The Op is not about who won or lost. Did you read it?
The Op is not about who won or lost. Did you read it?
I've never seen the kind of pervasive "it wasn't fair!" desperation that I've seen this time.
It's likely the big words were too confusing, Cap'n, and it was a long article.
To many people comment on things without reading them completely. That never ceases to amaze me.
Was anything illegal or unconstitutional done?
It's always been hard for the losing side after an election.
I've never seen the kind of pervasive "it wasn't fair!" desperation that I've seen this time. It's like people felt entitled to win or something.
Trump was a bad President, and lost. It's really simple. Get a better candidate next time.
Trump was easily a good enough candidate to win and he would be in his second term if not for the cabal lol.
I’m surprised Ball used that word since it typically has a negative connotation.
And Biden’s non-campaign is starting to make sense. I expect he was in communication with the cabal [why wouldn’t he be?] and was informed he ‘didn’t have to do much’ so he laid low in the basement. It all makes sense now.
So Biden didn’t win the election in the traditional sense [fight like hell campaign and etc]—it was more a result of coordinated machinations on the part of the cabal. M
The only question is whether Molly Ball is aware of the full extent of the intrigue and whether she would report on it if she knew.
It had nothing to do w/ a cabal.
I doubt, it Skip. He's too stupid to know when he's been humiliated.
Remember when he said that Vietnam was in America?
Here’s what happened:
Man, do you guys twist yourself into pretzels trying to make the simple complicated.
Trump was NOT a "good enough candidate." It had nothing to do w/ a cabal. If you weren't 100% all in on Trump, you didn't like him. Period. Because he lies a lot, and didn't lead during a pandemic, and had a style that was bullying, divisive and toxic.
If you could step back for even a second and compare how the country was when he started and how it was when he finished, you'd come to a rational conclusion that he probably wasn't the best thing for us. And no, it's not because of COVID. He awakened the worst of us, and gave it oxygen. He clearly brought out a "conspiracy-driven" aspect of who we are, and an us vs. them mentality. What I'm saying is not TDS - it is factual, and a logical conclusion based on observation.
And many just concluded that we couldn't sustain 4 more years of that. Very logical, very rational. It had nothing to do w/ a "cabal" or "coordinated machinations."

Well again, your problem is with the liberal Time writer lol.
She all but came out and said Biden wouldn’t have won without the ‘help’ of the cabal. It’s her claim and not mine.
IOW, in a truly fair election Trump would be president. If both ran traditional campaigns without the ‘machinations’ Trump would have won.
She also implied [strongly] that it was more about saving democracy than anything else. Apparently, irony escapes her.
Though granted, she is a liberal and that comes with the territory. Lefties are seemingly immune to irony.
Democracy won in the end. The will of the people prevailed.
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Yeah, were you the idiot who claimed that Vietnam was not an American emergency because Vietnam was not in America? One of the stupidest fucking claims ever made on this forum.
What does Puerto Rico send or contribute to emergencies in the USA
Americans, bitch.
Русский агент;2061561 said:Now you're claiming that Vietnam is an emergency in the USA?
Gonna quibble about tense, aren't you, bitch? You really are fucking desperate, bigot. 58,000 American deaths,bitch. 10,000 day war, bitch. No big deal, huh, bitch? Fucking idiot.
Русский агент;2061606 said:What does a war in Vietnam have to do with whether or not Puerto Rico sends "Americans" to "emergencies in the USA"? Is Vietnam "in America"? Was the Vietnam war an "emergency in America"?

That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Awesome. Thanks for the link:
For Trump and his allies were running their own campaign to spoil the election. The President spent months insisting that mail ballots were a Democratic plot and the election would be “rigged.” His henchmen at the state level sought to block their use, while his lawyers brought dozens of spurious suits to make it more difficult to vote–an intensification of the GOP’s legacy of suppressive tactics. Before the election, Trump plotted to block a legitimate vote count. And he spent the months following Nov. 3 trying to steal the election he’d lost–with lawsuits and conspiracy theories, pressure on state and local officials, and finally summoning his army of supporters to the Jan. 6 rally that ended in deadly violence at the Capitol.
I don't even know what you're talking about. I read her article and agree w/ it. I have no problem with people trying to fight disinformation, or enable more people to express themselves through the vote.
You don't see that as "fair." I can't really comprehend, that, nor do I want to.
Words like "cabal" and "talisman" can tend to make logical, fair things sound insidious and oppressive.