COVID BOMBSHELL: HERD IMMUNITY BY APRIL

Big Money Dolla said:
natural immunity is when you get it then recover.. the fact a virus is "novel" or not is irrelevant.
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With many viruses, immunity fades over time. Covid-19 seems to be an extreme example of this. But because it is a new, or novel virus, we really do not know how quickly immunity fades.

There is something going on here. For some reason, it is hitting countries in very quick waves, and even when it is assumed herd immunity is close, we just get a next wave. Assumably if herd immunity was around the corner, places that were ahead of us in the pandemic would be at herd immunity... But maybe we are the worst possible country, and just did not realize it.
 
Walt said:
With many viruses, immunity fades over time. Covid-19 seems to be an extreme example of this. But because it is a new, or novel virus, we really do not know how quickly immunity fades.

There is something going on here. For some reason, it is hitting countries in very quick waves, and even when it is assumed herd immunity is close, we just get a next wave. Assumably if herd immunity was around the corner, places that were ahead of us in the pandemic would be at herd immunity... But maybe we are the worst possible country, and just did not realize it.
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What are you basing this on?
 
Guille said:
What are you basing this on?
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Some immunities, like influenza immunity last a lifetime. If you had a strain of influenza a hundred years ago, it is virtually impossible to get it again. Other immunities last closer to ten years, like mononucleosis. It is rare for an immunity to only last months. There are people getting Covid-19 a second time in five months. That is an extreme example of immunity fading.
 
Walt said:
Some immunities, like influenza immunity last a lifetime. If you had a strain of influenza a hundred years ago, it is virtually impossible to get it again. Other immunities last closer to ten years, like mononucleosis. It is rare for an immunity to only last months. There are people getting Covid-19 a second time in five months. That is an extreme example of immunity fading.
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Or it's an example of tests being wrong.
 
Guille said:
Or it's an example of tests being wrong.
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To prove that it is someone getting the disease twice, they have to sequence the genes and find a difference. That is a more in depth test, and it really is not possible it could be wrong so many times.

The flip side is it is a more comprehensive test, so more rarely given. We do not know the exact risk of getting it twice in five months, just that there is a definite risk of having that happen. Over time, we are finding out how much that risk is.
 
Walt said:
To prove that it is someone getting the disease twice, they have to sequence the genes and find a difference. That is a more in depth test, and it really is not possible it could be wrong so many times.

The flip side is it is a more comprehensive test, so more rarely given. We do not know the exact risk of getting it twice in five months, just that there is a definite risk of having that happen. Over time, we are finding out how much that risk is.
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We just learned that the tests don't even work once, too many cycles.

What we do know is pandemics go 18-24 months, which I've been saying here since this all began :)

Yeah, we're almost out of it.
 
Guille said:
What we do know is pandemics go 18-24 months
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Again, you are just making stuff up. The AIDS pandemic has lasted for 40 years so far, with no sign of burning out any time soon. The original Black Death pandemic lasted for 8 years through Europe.

Pandemics last as long as they last. How long they last depends on many factors that are no known for Covid-19.
 
Walt said:
With many viruses, immunity fades over time. Covid-19 seems to be an extreme example of this. But because it is a new, or novel virus, we really do not know how quickly immunity fades.

There is something going on here. For some reason, it is hitting countries in very quick waves, and even when it is assumed herd immunity is close, we just get a next wave. Assumably if herd immunity was around the corner, places that were ahead of us in the pandemic would be at herd immunity... But maybe we are the worst possible country, and just did not realize it.
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Extreme example of this hardly... fake news claiming this absolutely.


Watch this. Without looking how long do you think antibodies last?


What was the last number of months you read and heard?
 
Walt said:
Again, you are just making stuff up. The AIDS pandemic has lasted for 40 years so far, with no sign of burning out any time soon. The original Black Death pandemic lasted for 8 years through Europe.

Pandemics last as long as they last. How long they last depends on many factors that are no known for Covid-19.
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Stop now. You're not seriously comparing AIDS to a coronavirus?
 
Big Monkey Dollop
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Nazi
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Nazi.
 
Walt said:
Again, you are just making stuff up. The AIDS pandemic has lasted for 40 years so far, with no sign of burning out any time soon. The original Black Death pandemic lasted for 8 years through Europe.

Pandemics last as long as they last. How long they last depends on many factors that are no known for Covid-19.
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Lol you just compred aids to corona. Come on now. If its “not comparable to the flu”, how can it be comparable to aids?
 
Big Monkey Dollop
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Extreme example of this hardly... fake news claiming this absolutely.


Watch this. Without looking how long do you think antibodies last?


What was the last number of months you read and heard?
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Nazi dumbass.
 
Guille said:
Stop now. You're not seriously comparing AIDS to a coronavirus?
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I have no idea how long the Covid-19 pandemic will last, and neither do you. You claim that all pandemics last 18 to 24 months, and yet I am off the top of my head able to come up with two examples that lasted for years more. Other pandemics have lasted for less than a year.

Covid-19 is novel, which means we do not know the factors that will decide how long the pandemic will last.
 
Walt said:
I have no idea how long the Covid-19 pandemic will last, and neither do you. You claim that all pandemics last 18 to 24 months, and yet I am off the top of my head able to come up with two examples that lasted for years more. Other pandemics have lasted for less than a year.

Covid-19 is novel, which means we do not know the factors that will decide how long the pandemic will last.
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It’s novel only in the sense it’s new lol.

And it’s less novel than it was this time last year. The CCP virus is a respiratory virus and as such will obey Farr’s Law. AIDS is a different critter. It’s ridiculously easy to ‘not get it’ for example: don’t share needles etc. AIDS would probably obey Farr’s Law except for the fact not enough people are going to get it.

We may be seeing Farr’s taking effect. To early to say for sure, but we have seen a precipitous drop in numbers—and it was sudden. Happened shortly after the election, in fact. It could be Farr’s. Time will tell.

In the meantime, Biden should show some leadership and *demand* that all public schools be open instead doing the political tightrope thing with the teachers unions.

He’s already pissed off the workers unions by killing Keystone so I don’t know what he’s waiting on.
 
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