Suez Canal blocked/blockaded

Predictably the Mind Molders show they have no understanding of the magnitude of the FUCK we are likely in for now.
 
There was a multi year upgrade to the Suez Jack. Wider, deeper, upgraded systems etc, etc. Big job.

Sounds like it. I remember waiting in Suez a few days to convoy north. Some Taxi Driver asked us if we wanted to go ride Camels, visit the Pyramids, go see the Belly Dancers in Cairo.
 
Sounds like it. I remember waiting in Suez a few days to convoy north. Some Taxi Driver asked us if we wanted to go ride Camels, visit the Pyramids, go see the Belly Dancers in Cairo.

He would have taken you a few other places also.....hehehehe....
 
There is going to come a point when even those with their hands out realize someone is going to have to pay for all this. And it will not be because they have a revelation. Our government is going to go after them also to pay.

According to the canal passage contract the ship owner is legally responsible for everything if a ship malfunction causes blockage, but then again a lot of ships are owned by entities that dont have much blood to bleed, on purpose. I dont know about this one. Another thing, dont they use pilots on the Suez? If so that would indicate to me that ship owner is not liable, the data manager says that there was no malfunction.
 
According to the canal passage contract the ship owner is legally responsible for everything if a ship malfunction causes blockage, but then again a lot of ships are owned by entities that dont have much blood to bleed. I dont know about this one. Another thing, dont they use pilots on the Suez? If so that would indicate to me that ship owner is not liable

They use Pilots in the Suez. No ship has a choice on that. A Pilot will not be held responsible for any damages if he/she screw up. That is the Captains responsibility. What you are referring to is the companies insurance should any claims be made.
 
They use Pilots in the Suez. No ship has a choice on that. A Pilot will not be held responsible for any damages if he/she screw up. That is the Captains responsibility. What you are referring to is the companies insurance should any claims be made.

You understand that makes no sense? The canal operator is responsible for who is allowed to pilot...which is the act of driving the ship through the canal, if they are incompetent the liability should not be to the ship owner.

The captain is responsible even though they have no control?

That violates reason and fair play.

Are you sure about this?
 
You understand that makes no sense? The canal operator is responsible for who is allowed to pilot...which is the act of driving the ship through the canal, if they are incompetent the liability should not be to the ship owner.

The captain is responsible even though they have no control?

That violates reason and fair play.

Are you sure about this?

Completely sure Hawkeye. Those are the rules with every pilot everywhere in the world. A Master of a vessel has the sole responsibility of that vessel. A Pilot is brought aboard as a request (even if mandated). A Master can at anytime over rule the Pilot.
 
Completely sure Hawkeye. Those are the rules with every pilot everywhere in the world. A Master of a vessel has the sole responsibility of that vessel. A Pilot is brought aboard as a request (even if mandated). A Master can at anytime over rule the Pilot.

Popeye, I don't think that they need your services in the Suez canal.
 
Completely sure Hawkeye. Those are the rules with every pilot everywhere in the world. A Master of a vessel has the sole responsibility of that vessel. A Pilot is brought aboard as a request (even if mandated). A Master can at anytime over rule the Pilot.

If the captain refuses pilot instructions will he ever be allowed back into the canal?
 
Yes. No problem at all. If they are right in their judgement. Masters and Pilots get along quite well.

The entire fucking point of having pilots is to get someone aboard who has more expertise than the captain.

If you are correct the operation of the canal is fucked in the head.
 
The entire fucking point of having pilots is to get someone aboard who has more expertise than the captain.

If you are correct the operation of the canal is fucked in the head.

There is no such a thing as someone with more expertise than the Master of their vessel. That does not exist. A pilot is used simply as a guide as they are more versed with their area of familiarization, bottom conditions, hazards etc. That is their function.
 
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